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General Election TV debates

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  • #2972
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    She dumped Conor Murphy in it as he did say that Quinn was involved in criminality. Now I know his mother believes he was not, but I suspect the Gardai and PSNI might agree with Murphy.
    Widely known he was involved in fuel laundering


  • #2973
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    WoolyJumper wrote: »
    I have the misfortune to watch the debate on facebook. Though not a good barometer for general opinion they all think MLM did a great job with one even saying she is going to win on Saturday (clearly having no understanding of Irish politics)

    sure people are still saying Hillary won the US election three years ago....
    Hurrache wrote: »
    Hillary did win the popular vote.


  • #2974
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    She dumped Conor Murphy in it as he did say that Quinn was involved in criminality. Now I know his mother believes he was not, but I suspect the Gardai and PSNI might agree with Murphy.

    The Gardaí and PSNI believe he had a row with a Provos brother.

    Pretty much known around the 6 counties.


  • #2975
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    That was a glib and slightly amusing retort to Martin. The story of the night was the car crash that was Mary Lou and her handling of the questions regarding Paul Quinn and the SCC.


    Her handling of the SCC question is at question not the stance that it should be reviewed or reformed or scrapped.
    The UN, Amnesty, ICCL and MAry Robinson have all said the same.


    That's all she had to say and that it would be as part of an overall revision of the justice system which is needed.


  • #2976
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    I thought Varadkar was very good tonight. Although he's been very bad as Taoiseach, so there's that too.


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  • #2977
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Widely known he was involved in fuel laundering

    Was he encroaching on the turf of ‘good republicans’ like Slab?


  • #2978
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Well that settles it I'm voting independent. 3 absolute losers I couldn't put an X next to.


  • #2979
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Widely known he was involved in fuel laundering

    ???

    The Provos or Paul Quinn??

    Jesus this is some mad deflection even for SF!!


  • #2980
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    She dumped Conor Murphy in it as he did say that Quinn was involved in criminality. Now I know his mother believes he was not, but I suspect the Gardai and PSNI might agree with Murphy.

    Still indicative of the IRA/SF mentality though - if you are involved in criminality, that isnt IRA criminality, then its OK to murder you. This is MaryLou's crowd we are talking about here.


  • #2981
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    WoolyJumper wrote: »
    I have the misfortune to watch the debate on facebook. Though not a good barometer for general opinion they all think MLM did a great job with one even saying she is going to win on Saturday (clearly having no understanding of Irish politics) Personally I've gone back and forth on voting for Sinn Fein. I can say for sure is she did not do great on this debate. Their policy of large tax reductions is what worries me and I was not reassured during this debate. I thought both MM and LV both had moments where they came across well and moments where they came across not so well.

    I won't be voting for either of them but we have to accept one of them will be leading government and I think Leo came across better overall in the debate. I felt most reassured by Leo in that debate but then had to remind myself the housing/health/homelessness crisis has gotten worse since they have been in government despite him now saying the tide has turned and all their plans are starting to come to fruition. Fianna fail on the other hand, I personally never want to see them in Government again.

    I'm going to give my first preferences to the Social Democrats knowing full well my vote will go to my second or third choice (at least we can be thankful for our STV system)


    Same boat.
    I want the FF-FG duopoly as damaged as possible but MLM didn't inspire tonight however there is literally no-one else to vote for in my area bar SF if I want to reduce the FF-FG seat total.


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  • #2982
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Widely known he was involved in fuel laundering

    SF earned a lot of money from that over the decades.


  • #2983
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    She dumped Conor Murphy in it as he did say that Quinn was involved in criminality. Now I know his mother believes he was not, but I suspect the Gardai and PSNI might agree with Murphy.

    So he should have been beaten to death by 10 brave men with iron bars?


  • #2984
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    ???

    The Provos or Paul Quinn??

    Jesus this is some mad deflection even for SF!!

    If you keep mentioning the provos enough maybe people will get over their annoyance they have with health and housing.i think another 20-30 posts should do it.


  • #2985
    silver2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    Leo seems to have shaded it over Michéal. The good economic figures may have given him impetus.

    Mary Lou was just appalling - I don't think even the most fervent SF supporter could say she did well.


  • #2986
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    LOL fuel smugglers kill another fuel smuggler with a ratio of 10:1.

    Ahhh that explains it so, let's move on.


  • #2987
    sparkling sea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭sparkling sea


    The best line of Leaders Debate by Leo Varadkar "restoring FF to power would be like asking John Delaney to take over the FAI again in nine years time" :-)


  • #2988
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,722 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    WoolyJumper wrote: »
    I have the misfortune to watch the debate on facebook. Though not a good barometer for general opinion they all think MLM did a great job with one even saying she is going to win on Saturday (clearly having no understanding of Irish politics) Personally I've gone back and forth on voting for Sinn Fein. I can say for sure is she did not do great on this debate. Their policy of large tax reductions is what worries me and I was not reassured during this debate. I thought both MM and LV both had moments where they came across well and moments where they came across not so well.

    It's cool to say you vote for Sinn Fein on Facebook!


  • #2989
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    silver2020 wrote: »
    Leo seems to have shaded it over Michéal. The good economic figures may have given him impetus.

    Mary Lou was just appalling - I don't think even the most fervent SF supporter could say she did well.

    FrancieBrady thought it was a draw!


  • #2990
    charlie14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    This time around those on our offshore islands vote same day as everyone else, a good thing.


    No. Islands voting on Friday as this government could not even manage to get that right .


  • #2991
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    is there a wasp in the studio?


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  • #2992
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,566 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    sparkling sea wrote: »
    The best line of Leaders Debate by Leo Varadkar "restoring FF to power would be like asking John Delaney to take over the FAI again in nine years time" :-)

    I think that one is backfiring on Leo already. They let him walk away and are bailing out a largely unreformed organisation. Twitter not liking it.


  • #2993
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,398 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    MLM what is your biggest political regret?

    -Coming on here tonight?

    I thought she was overall very poor, disappointing.
    Leo and MM did a lot better, Leo definitely does his homework and spins the numbers pretty well, MM a lot less aggressive and flustered than last debate.


  • #2994
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭boardise


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    He was murdered by those who support SF because he got the better of a leading SF mans son in a row, that's who Paul Quinn was.

    One way or another the name Quinn seems to reverberate through N Ir politics.


  • #2995
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,050 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    silver2020 wrote: »
    Leo seems to have shaded it over Michéal. The good economic figures may have given him impetus.

    Mary Lou was just appalling - I don't think even the most fervent SF supporter could say she did well.

    Correct absolutely sh1te. But I'll still give SF the vote as opposed to MM and LV who could spin the lies and guff with more panache.


  • #2996
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,722 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I'm watching The Spin Room thing and they spoke to students from UCD. There was one from the Green Party(I think) and she said Mary Lou spoke about climate change the best or did I hear all that wrong.


  • #2997
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Could be really close on Saturday

    FG could gain 1-2% from tonight considering the viewershio was huge.

    Really going to be tight

    Micheal will likely be Taoiseach by default


  • #2998
    KimWexler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭KimWexler


    Deluded there from UCD.


  • #2999
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,187 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    sparkling sea wrote: »
    The best line of Leaders Debate by Leo Varadkar "restoring FF to power would be like asking John Delaney to take over the FAI again in nine years time" :-)


    But FG being around while Delaney was at full swing in the FAI and looking like not a single possible pinishment will be dished out to him is a complete head shot to FG, not something you should promote.


  • #3000
    eldamo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭eldamo


    Mary Lou accusing Martin of mansplaining...

    Cringe.

    I don't even think that is a term she would naturally use, she was just shoe horning it in because it's what she thinks people want to hear.


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  • #3001
    vapor trails
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭vapor trails


    Mary Lou's jibe of "mansplaining" at Michael Martin was a bit cringey too. Her ship was sinking and she was hoping she could seek harbor in feminism bay


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