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General Election TV debates

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  • #2942
    KimWexler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16 ✭KimWexler


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    So maybe they don't think it needs overhauling. Not sure what your point is.

    Astrofool put it better than I ever could. Too many in bed with each other unwilling to turn off the electric blanket.


  • #2943
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    daithi7 wrote: »
    I hope the electorate can see through SF's masquerade......

    Lies, unattainable promises, laws of unintended consequences e.g. carbon tax level and non refitting of cold homes, raising income taxes & so lose IDA e executives & companies & jobs and losing the ability to recruit back doctors ,teachers and nurses.

    SF would leave the country in a complete crisis.... YIKES!!!!


    They would not be in govt alone this has to be remembered.


  • #2944
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,452 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    C__MC wrote: »
    Is there an exit poll Saturday night?

    I would imagine RTE and Irish Times will run one, but they aren't as dramatic as the one in Britain as they only capture first preference votes, so don't expect a gasp of finality.


  • #2945
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,775 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    What is the link between miriam and one of the parties?

    Brother is an FF TD. Jim O'Callaghan


  • #2946
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    boardise wrote: »
    Something to do with the level of political intelligence of the Irish electorate ?

    Yes, this is the problem. There is a 30% or so who dont seem to be able to put the performance of the serious parties in perspective, and so gravitate to the likes os SF and independents. In the end, those voting for them most, get the consequnces: a poor health service, housing issues, excessive unemployment benefits and pensions that further skews.
    Vote for one of the proper parties. Let them form a majority government. Improvement to the country will follow. But as you say, with the level of intelligence of the Irish electorate, I would be pessimistic for that outcome this time at least.


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  • #2947
    Spleerbun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Spleerbun


    Only caught towards the end but from the little I saw Mary Lou was fairly catastrophic. Was she any better early doors?


  • #2948
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Spleerbun wrote: »
    Only caught towards the end but from the little I saw Mary Lou was fairly catastrophic. Was she any better early doors?

    She was entertaining throughout.


  • #2949
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Going back to the John Delaney call from LV. Does he realise his government bailed out the FAI by 20 million. He met the man endless times and socialized with him when the dogs on the street knew the corruption.he seems to have a bizarre detachment from disasters under his tenure.complete cognitive dissonance.


  • #2950
    irishgeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    the bits people will remember the start and the end both of which are mary lou failing to answer the question on the SCC and the paul quinn question.


  • #2951
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Strange how Mary Lou didnt seem to know what had been said about Paul Quinn yet was happy to make the u turn from yesterday's position that nothing bad had in fact been said. All over the shop there.
    That's what happens when you're caught by the bollix and haven't done yiour homework.


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  • #2952
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Spleerbun wrote: »
    Only caught towards the end but from the little I saw Mary Lou was fairly catastrophic. Was she any better early doors?

    she was better early on yes. kinda fell apart thereafter. should have been much better prepped for the paul quinn thing.


  • #2953
    Lackey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I had an argument with my 71 year old mother about that. .

    You argued with your 71 one year old mother? nice lol


  • #2954
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    smurgen wrote: »
    Going back to the John Delaney call from LV. Does he realise his government bailed out the FAI by 20 million. He met the man endless times and socialized with him when the dogs on the street knew the corruption.he seems to have a bizarre detachment from disasters under his tenure.complete cognitive dissonance.

    The government is dissolved at the moment.


  • #2955
    Cunning Alias
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Cunning Alias


    Spleerbun wrote: »
    Only caught towards the end but from the little I saw Mary Lou was fairly catastrophic. Was she any better early doors?

    Well there was a question about the Special Criminal Court so............


  • #2956
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    smurgen wrote: »
    Going back to the John Delaney call from LV. Does he realise his government bailed out the FAI by 20 million. He met the man endless times and socialized with him when the dogs on the street knew the corruption.he seems to have a bizarre detachment from disasters under his tenure.complete cognitive dissonance.


    Yep, another drop the ball by Leo as a minister of sports at one time.
    ther dogs in the streets knew Delaney was up to no good.


  • #2957
    TL17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭TL17


    Itssoeasy wrote:
    The Paul Quin question will not have helped Sinn Fein.


    Glad she got on debate now. True colours showing


  • #2958
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,775 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Spleerbun wrote: »
    Only caught towards the end but from the little I saw Mary Lou was fairly catastrophic. Was she any better early doors?

    Yes, except on the other issue SF simply can't figure out how to handle in debates (special criminal court). She was still last at that stage; but a more convincing position than the other debates


  • #2959
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Spleerbun wrote: »
    Only caught towards the end but from the little I saw Mary Lou was fairly catastrophic. Was she any better early doors?

    To quote the late Larry Gogan " perhaps the questions didn't suit her"


  • #2960
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Lackey wrote: »
    You argued with your 71 one year old mother? nice lol

    still treats her like a fellow sentient human being?


  • #2961
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,992 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    The government is dissolved at the moment.

    It's not the outgoing government stay in office until a new one get their seals of office.


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  • #2962
    Patser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Patser


    I think Leo won that debate, if only because nothing really stuck to him, or will be remembered about him afterwards.

    MM was probably the best debater and speaker there, but the Delaney jibe by Leo hit home and has already become meme-able.

    MLM will have to regretting going on this, a good few deer in headlights moments - the terrible silence over the Quinn murder, the SCC question, the 'what's massive' moment about investment in electric cars, demographics will sort themselves out. Would have been so much better not to appear.


  • #2963
    It wasnt me123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    . ...... In the end, those voting for them most, get the consequnces: a poor health service, housing issues, excessive unemployment benefits and pensions that further skews.
    Vote for one of the proper parties. Let them form a majority government. Improvement to the country will follow.
    ......

    Really, health, housing, etc are so great now that we should vote in more of the same? I voted FG last time, but won’t this time - public services have decreased and they have restored the Xmas week extra soc welfare payment and buy votes from the people that aren’t working. I want change and I know SF may not be perfect, but neither of the others and I can’t stand MM.


  • #2964
    Trizo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭Trizo


    The huge pause when she was caught out , the face on her.... you could hear a pin drop


  • #2965
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Love the SF victim mentality.

    Cry they're not allowed on.

    Cry when they are.

    Cry moan whinge.

    Cry when they are interrupted while busy not answering the question.


  • #2966
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    smurgen wrote: »
    Going back to the John Delaney call from LV. Does he realise his government bailed out the FAI by 20 million. He met the man endless times and socialized with him when the dogs on the street knew the corruption.he seems to have a bizarre detachment from disasters under his tenure.complete cognitive dissonance.

    That was a glib and slightly amusing retort to Martin. The story of the night was the car crash that was Mary Lou and her handling of the questions regarding Paul Quinn and the SCC.


  • #2967
    WoolyJumper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭WoolyJumper


    I have the misfortune to watch the debate on facebook. Though not a good barometer for general opinion they all think MLM did a great job with one even saying she is going to win on Saturday (clearly having no understanding of Irish politics) Personally I've gone back and forth on voting for Sinn Fein. I can say for sure is she did not do great on this debate. Their policy of large tax reductions is what worries me and I was not reassured during this debate. I thought both MM and LV both had moments where they came across well and moments where they came across not so well.

    I won't be voting for either of them but we have to accept one of them will be leading government and I think Leo came across better overall in the debate. I felt most reassured by Leo in that debate but then had to remind myself the housing/health/homelessness crisis has gotten worse since they have been in government despite him now saying the tide has turned and all their plans are starting to come to fruition. Fianna fail on the other hand, I personally never want to see them in Government again.

    I'm going to give my first preferences to the Social Democrats knowing full well my vote will go to my second or third choice (at least we can be thankful for our STV system)


  • #2968
    sheroman01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,734 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    smurgen wrote: »
    Varadkar speaks too much. Real kind of over sharing or waffling going on. He seems extremely nervous as a person.

    Being nervous is fine. What worries me more is that he comes across as a extremely indecisive person. Not great for a leader. He even agreed with the presenter when he was slating him for leaving things until the last minute to make decisions.


  • #2969
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    The government is dissolved at the moment.

    It's been an issue for months. Or is another thing to fix on his to do list if he gets back to government? That list is grown long....health...housing...


  • #2970
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,398 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Strange how Mary Lou didnt seem to know what had been said about Paul Quinn yet was happy to make the u turn from yesterday's position that nothing bad had in fact been said. All over the shop there.


    She dumped Conor Murphy in it as he did say that Quinn was involved in criminality. Now I know his mother believes he was not, but I suspect the Gardai and PSNI might agree with Murphy.


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  • #2971
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,992 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I doubt it hurt any of the leaders with voters who have their pre conceived ideas about the three parties. The SCC answer from Mary Lou looks good compared to the Paul Quinn answer. If there had just been the SCC "flub" then SF would and could claim they had a good debate.


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