new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

givyjoe wrote: »

Would you care to back up any of your statements with actual sources with stats?

Theres an almost equal number of deaths versus 'cures' in China. An alarmingly low cure rate considering the level of infections.

https://news.qq.com//zt2020/page/feiyan.htm?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf#news

Just on that second point, I expect there is a significant lag between deaths and cures - the latter will peak later than the former. The medicos seem satisfied to estimate the mortality around 2%. I don't know how they do that exactly, but I think it's safe to say we can't make a simple comparison of death and cures so far.

Cody montana wrote: »

Population of earth: 7.5 billion
Deaths: 305

You are welcome.

Thanks for summarising the complete and utter stupidity of the majority of your posts, in one tidy reply. Working in a medical related field my arse.

The relevant numbers are, around 345 cures out of 14000 infected in China.

mikhail wrote: »

Just on that second point, I expect there is a significant lag between deaths and cures - the latter will peak later than the former. The medicos seem satisfied to estimate the mortality around 2%. I don't know how they do that exactly, but I think it's safe to say we can't make a simple comparison of death and cures so far.

Yes, I know, but it's still concerning. That and the numbers who are seriously ill. Those folks need respiratory equipment to treat them, without which the mortality would increase significantly. The problem is too many sick at once, not enough respiratory equipment to go around, and then spikes in mortality rates.

givyjoe wrote: »

Thanks for summarising the complete and utter stupidity of the majority of your posts, in one tidy reply. Working in a medical related field my arse.

The relevant numbers are, around 345 cures out of 14000 infected in China.

That’s it, when presented with reality throw out insults.

Cody montana wrote: »

That’s it, when presented with reality throw out insults.

I'm not insulting you, I'm commenting on your posts. Attack the post and all that. You were asked for relevant stats and you couldn't give any. You havent backed up anything you have said, you're clearly just posting opinions and guesses, unfortunately ignorant ones at that.

You said you worked in a related field as if to give credibility to your posts, you haven't even clarified what that is.

The reality is only 340 or so have recovered out of 14000 infected. 7 billion aren't affected, yet, so to even quite that number as evidence this isn't something to worry about, is utterly ridiculous.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you had a very serious auto-immune disorder, and your friend was back from next to Wuhan, would you hang out with them, and would you tell them why if you decided not to?

Someone I know is feeling bad about deciding to keep a distance.

I defintely wouldn't feel bad about that. I mean if I was the other friend and I knew there was an (admittedly small) risk of killing a friend, I'd be happy to keep my distance for a couple of weeks.

mikhail wrote: »

Consider these numbers from the article:

That's about 0.05% of infected people die. If the Wuhan virus was allowed to spread to the same degree and maintained its estimated mortality rate, 800,000 of those 19 million people would die. So they try to put a lid on it now, while they still can.

Think of it another way: A certain number of people die every year from slipping in the bathroom. If you look at that number in a large enough population, and it'll look substantial. It's still a pretty low risk, unless you're very frail.

How do you know there isnt 19 million people walking around in China already with coronavirus with such mild symptoms that have no need to go to hospital and be added to the fanatical number counts? The mortality rate could be lower than seasonal flu for all we know based on the limited data.

If the test in Dublin on the man from the Aeroflot flight proves positive I'd say there will be questions ask as to why the remaining passengers were simply allowed to leave the flight.

The mind boggles because people would be needlessly concerned.

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

How do you know there isnt 19 million people walking around in China already with coronavirus with such mild symptoms that have no need to go to hospital and be added to the fanatical number counts? The mortality rate could be lower than seasonal flu for all we know based on the limited data.

There might be. It would be nice if that's the case. On balance though, I tend to keep an eye on the expert opinion. They might be wrong (especially in the short term), but they are trained to collect and assess the relevant kinds of data to figure that out.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

If the test in Dublin on the man from the Aeroflot flight proves positive I'd say there will be questions ask as to why the remaining passengers were simply allowed to leave the flight.

The mind boggles because people would be needlessly concerned.

I wonder were they and the sick person supplied with masks and hand gels?

You would have thought they would be told to wear masks and stay at home

Does anyone not find it odd none of the mainstream media have reported on it, No not the sun,mirror and that rag dublin live......