new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

AllForIt · 25-01-2020 12:32AM

...can we suspend climate change activism until we've sorted this out?

fritzelly · 25-01-2020 12:33AM

AllForIt wrote: »

...can we suspend climate change activism until we've sorted this out?

Didn't you hear - climate change caused this because "insert ludicrous excuses"

ceadaoin. · 25-01-2020 01:18AM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

There is still so many unknowns, but it looks like anyone in a high risk area, is not only gonna have to buy the 3M (type N95) facemasks,
but they'll also now need swimmers (sealed) eye goggles:

A top medic who contracted Coronavirus says the deadly respiratory disease is so contagious it can be transmitted through the eyes.
He says he developed conjunctivitis in his left eye after returning to Beijing and around three hours later he began had a fever and severe catarrh.

Yeah viruses can always enter the body through your eyes via infected hands. That's why you're supposed to avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth if you dont want to get sick. I highly doubt this virus spontaneously appeared in his eye from the air. More hysteria.

1800_Ladladlad · 25-01-2020 01:20AM

Couldn't stop laughing at this

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wakka12 · 25-01-2020 02:41AM

Over 1,200 confirmed cases in China now with 41 deaths
And just today, 1200 new suspected cases of the virus. Sounds like it will be very hard to stop this going to pandemic level in China
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/china-coronavirus-outbreak-latest-updates-200123133559818.html

fritzelly · 25-01-2020 02:47AM

That's a big jump in a day, only going to get far worse
Not just old people, healthy young fella has died as well

LaFuton · 25-01-2020 04:57AM

this, the plague of locusts in africa, giant black smoke rings in the sky, eruptions and fires... jesus its a bit biblical

EDIT france confirms 3 cases in eu

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1220918160850853889?s=20

igCorcaigh · 25-01-2020 05:40AM

Great start to the new decade anyway.

That's a big jump in the death toll. Very sad.

Hoping not to see any sustained H2H outside China.

Follow the excellent Helen Branswell for news.

https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1220929215111090176?s=19

There is also Dr Henry Niman on recombinomics.co but he's a bit alarmist and fringe. Still, he gives audio updates each day. Difficult to listen to and not a great communicator.

Flu trackers Forum can be a bit panicky too. Americans with their prepping.

igCorcaigh · 25-01-2020 05:50AM

Most of the clusters seem to be in families, i.e. Close contact.

No sign of sustained spread of the virus outside Hubei.

Of course, this is a snapshot of 1 or 2 weeks ago, given the incubation period. For now, this is a localised problem for a region in China.

igCorcaigh · 25-01-2020 06:06AM

"Around one-in-four cases are thought to be severe." BBC

This is going to put a lot of pressure on our health resources.

We already have overcrowding in our hospitals and long A&E waiting times.

igCorcaigh · 25-01-2020 06:16AM

https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1220929215111090176?s=09

igCorcaigh · 25-01-2020 06:20AM

35 discharges from hospital but 41 deaths in Wuhan is concerning for the CFR estimates.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-01-2020 08:16AM

Chairman Mao. The Chairman of the Communist Party of China. One of the biggest communist parties in the world, and in my view, the best.

Carol25 · 25-01-2020 09:14AM

From what I can gather on Twitter, the hospitals are overwhelmed. People are collapsing in the streets of Wuhan & a doctors note has gone viral stating one person infects up to 14 others as the virus has mutated. He also estimated 90,000 as the number of people infected. Is there a cover up going on? Twitter is a very much believe what you wish platform without much ‘independently verified’ information so it’s a very much make your own mind up situation.

mountai · 25-01-2020 09:48AM

Well at least WE dont have to worry according to our esteemed HSE , who have announced "Ireland is a low risk country" . Well we know what the HSE is capable of . F all .

25-01-2020 10:00AM

4 in Australia, more being tested. One landed back on the 6th January. Long incubation period and hundreds of fellow passengers exposed....

25-01-2020 11:01AM

Wonder if the seemingly really bad dose that was doing the rounds just pre-Christmas mightn't have been the usual seasonal thing.

creditcarder · 25-01-2020 12:04PM

Carol25 wrote: »

From what I can gather on Twitter, the hospitals are overwhelmed. People are collapsing in the streets of Wuhan & a doctors note has gone viral stating one person infects up to 14 others as the virus has mutated. He also estimated 90,000 as the number of people infected. Is there a cover up going on? Twitter is a very much believe what you wish platform without much ‘independently verified’ information so it’s a very much make your own mind up situation.

Probably from the old people and people being nervous about getting it as I don't think china has gps per se. They just have hospitals.

Seems a bit alarmist in the twitter tbh.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-01-2020 12:13PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Didn't you hear - climate change caused this because "insert ludicrous excuses"

CC may benefit from this already, via an expected (temporary, but possibly longer) closure or demand reduction for flights.
Oil is also dropping very quickly in price, thanks to an expected demand reduction from airliners.

Edging towards C'Theories:
But someone reckons the current deepest sunspot minimum could play a part in virus risk. It causes the Earth’s magnetic field to weaken allowing “biological entities” (including foreign DNA) to fall to the planet’s surface will less damage.

Another equally far fetched theory relates to BG-Foundation, thought it was funny until seen a webbanner advertisng 'this pandemic {alert} was brought to you by...." This event has also occured shortly after the world's billionaires finished their yearly Davos (behind doors) meet-up and chat about the coming year.

thomas 123 · 25-01-2020 12:16PM

mountai wrote: »

Well at least WE dont have to worry according to our esteemed HSE , who have announced "Ireland is a low risk country" . Well we know what the HSE is capable of . F all .

I’ve always wondered what our hospitals would do in the case of any serious incident, say a bus crash... I was I. A&E for a minor injury once(stitches needed) and was left waiting 12 hours, I later found out 2 people came in from a car accident, both died and at the time I understood waiting 12 hours to be sorted, but It just goes to show we would be absolutely on our knees if anything like what is happening in China happened here.

It scares me to think our HSE/Government are taking no measures(and probably won’t) to stop this coming into Ireland.

LeBash · 25-01-2020 12:16PM

I wouldnt be overly worried. The average Irish person has culturally made their body a place germs dont want to live.

Witchie · 25-01-2020 12:24PM

The 3 cases here in Malaysia are family members of the first man confirmed in Singapore. I am so annoyed that they travelled on to Malaysia when he was kept in Singapore. Why the fook didn't the Singaporean authorities keep them there instead of letting the infection spread to another country. So angry right now.

I have just recovered from flu and have a bad cold and still coughing now. As an asthmatic, am now a bit scared to leave my apartment.

Happy Chinese new year my ass.

nigeldaniel · 25-01-2020 12:37PM

Just back from the local shops after getting the Sun paper. A guy I know well insisted quite bluntly that the coronavirus was a result of Chinese agents planning an infection for Hong Kong but it went haywire. He is a bit like that so I humored him for a while and then went on my way.

ChikiChiki · 25-01-2020 12:41PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

I’ve always wondered what our hospitals would do in the case of any serious incident, say a bus crash... I was I. A&E for a minor injury once(stitches needed) and was left waiting 12 hours, I later found out 2 people came in from a car accident, both died and at the time I understood waiting 12 hours to be sorted, but It just goes to show we would be absolutely on our knees if anything like what is happening in China happened here.

It scares me to think our HSE/Government are taking no measures(and probably won’t) to stop this coming into Ireland.

I'm of the opinion we should always have a surplus of bed available as a contingency.

The Govt and bean counters don't see it that way at all. You can't mess with health in that regard. We will see the repurcussions IF* the virus becomes an epidemic here.

25-01-2020 12:43PM

nigeldaniel wrote: »

Just back from the local shops after getting the Sun paper. A guy I know well insisted quite bluntly that the coronavirus was a result of Chinese agents planning an infection for Hong Kong but it went haywire. He is a bit like that so I humored him for a while and then went on my way.

The /r/HongKong subreddit has people like that. There's some photo of a sick person in HK airport and people are saying China sent him there.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-01-2020 12:44PM

nigeldaniel wrote: »

Just back from the local shops after getting the Sun paper...

I stopped reading at this point.

creditcarder · 25-01-2020 12:47PM

nigeldaniel wrote: »

Just back from the local shops after getting the Sun paper. A guy I know well insisted quite bluntly that the coronavirus was a result of Chinese agents planning an infection for Hong Kong but it went haywire. He is a bit like that so I humored him for a while and then went on my way.

Irish? I love how strangely quirky and invidual the Irish are and I hope we don't lose it tbh

Hmmmmm, I doubt it tbh. It could be possible as they are very easily locking down the cities, but infecting a city like hong kong is pretty much like shooting a nuke during the cold war. It has enough autonomy and there are enough expats there that I would be terrified what would happen next with disease warfare.

Now, creepy thought. Wouldn't it be a better attack to use a disease that could cause long term fatigue or health issues to damage the economy and put stress on the government/healthcare than just killing people? You're friend is wrong, imo, but it does lead to some seriously creepy thoughts.

25-01-2020 12:53PM

Warning this is totally unverified atm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxIhGyi0YH8 

thecretinhop · 25-01-2020 01:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Warning this is totally unverified atm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxIhGyi0YH8 ;

if this is true we are all fkd

Snow Garden · 25-01-2020 01:37PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

if this is true we are all fkd

The fear virus is not deadly. It just makes people prone to overreacting.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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