General Election 20 GalwayWest

ChewyLouie · 23-01-2020 8:40am

Arghus wrote: »

Well, according to himself, Mike Cubbard is going to be poster free. So if he's as good as his word I'll give him a vote.

He was poster free in the last local election and topped the poll.

xckjoo · 23-01-2020 10:39am

amiable wrote: »

O’Tuathail feeling he was too good for local council will cost him.

I actually like that he didn't run for the locals if he intended to go for the general. I don't like the system of getting elected locally with the sole intention of jumping ship as soon as something "better" comes along. Very disingenuous. Local councillors shouldn't just be failed national level politicians with one eye on the door.

But I do agree it'll probably cost him

Triangle · 23-01-2020 12:40pm

amiable wrote: »

O’Reilly will hold up any hope of getting a ring road built.

As with Crowe, it's outside any TDs hands now.

Pen Rua · 23-01-2020 12:51pm

xckjoo wrote: »

I actually like that he didn't run for the locals if he intended to go for the general. I don't like the system of getting elected locally with the sole intention of jumping ship as soon as something "better" comes along. Very disingenuous. Local councillors shouldn't just be failed national level politicians with one eye on the door.

But I do agree it'll probably cost him

His letter in the newspaper around the time of the locals saying he wasn't running irked me.

ClanofLams · 23-01-2020 2:19pm

I presume O’Tuathail would have run in the centre ward had he ran? He would have been elected and the green councillor wouldn’t have, the soc dems would have two councillors instead the greens have two. Bit naive that.

Homelander · 23-01-2020 2:38pm

I think the problem is that for many people it gave off an air of "I'm too good for the Council". Not saying I believe that, but I think it did him more harm than good abstaining after he had such a decent showing last time around. I think his moment has come and gone.

amiable · 23-01-2020 3:00pm

ClanofLams wrote: »

I presume O’Tuathail would have run in the centre ward had he ran? He would have been elected and the green councillor wouldn’t have, the soc dems would have two councillors instead the greens have two. Bit naive that.

West ward

amiable · 23-01-2020 3:01pm

Homelander wrote: »

I think the problem is that for many people it gave off an air of "I'm too good for the Council". Not saying I believe that, but I think it did him more harm than good abstaining after he had such a decent showing last time around. I think his moment has come and gone.

I believe he spends a lot of time working in England so being a councillor wouldn’t have suited.

amiable · 23-01-2020 3:02pm

Triangle wrote: »

As with Crowe, it's outside any TDs hands now.

While I sincerely doubt Crowe can get the road built, it will be possible for people to delay it being built in my opinion

Pen Rua · 23-01-2020 3:16pm

amiable wrote: »

I believe he spends a lot of time working in England so being a councillor wouldn’t have suited.

And it's going to suit working as a TD better? Or he is on the record to say he's going to give the job up?

what_traffic · 23-01-2020 3:20pm

amiable wrote: »

While I sincerely doubt Crowe can get the road built, it will be possible for people to delay it being built in my opinion

There is no doubt Crowe has very little influence here unless we have a FG/FF coalition, but it is anyhow policy from both these main partys regardless if Crowe gets a seat or not to build the City Ring Road.
It could be stopped if NO money is available. Can be a condition of a Program for Gov. A party could say want 50/50 split of money towards roads v's public transport /walking/cycling. Currently its skewed towards road building.

However it has not even passed through the planning process yet, could have a NEW Goverment come and go by the time that happens that pace it is currently been done at.

amiable · 23-01-2020 5:00pm

Pen Rua wrote: »

And it's going to suit working as a TD better? Or he is on the record to say he's going to give the job up?

I would imagine it’s a given he’ll leave his job if elected

ax530 · 23-01-2020 5:21pm

Think Kyne will loose a lot of votes in Moycullen, Oughterard area can he still get a seat without those ?
He was canvassing in Knocknacarra so they must not have designated that area for Naughton.
Cuiv I expect will get elected but cant see Martin giving him a good position if in gov.
Dissapointed we dont seem to have a very strong candidate who I feel would get to do a lot of good work in the Dail.

amiable · 23-01-2020 5:37pm

ax530 wrote: »

Think Kyne will loose a lot of votes in Moycullen, Oughterard area can he still get a seat without those ?
He was canvassing in Knocknacarra so they must not have designated that area for Naughton.
Cuiv I expect will get elected but cant see Martin giving him a good position if in gov.
Dissapointed we dont seem to have a very strong candidate who I feel would get to do a lot of good work in the Dail.

I saw Naughton twice this week in Knocknacarra canvassing

telekon · 23-01-2020 7:51pm

Arghus wrote: »

Well, according to himself, Mike Cubbard is going to be poster free. So if he's as good as his word I'll give him a vote.

Fair dues to mike. I’ve never seen so many posters for one person anywhere in the country as I have seen for Ollie Crowe this week. They’re absolutely everywhere! I was hoping that candidates would have the cop on to limit their garbage somewhat in this day and age where the environment is such a hot topic. As far as I’ve heard they’re not recyclable which makes it even more infuriating.

zell12 · 23-01-2020 8:17pm

amiable wrote: »

I saw Naughton twice this week in Knocknacarra canvassing

Was she lost?

holly8 · 23-01-2020 8:39pm

Joe Loughanne anyone??

beerguts · 23-01-2020 8:59pm

holly8 wrote: »

Joe Loughanne anyone??

I can just imagine his social media reaction after he is eliminated after the first or second count, screaming that the ingrained racism of the Galway public went against him and that he was the only candidate with integrity...lol (you got tegridy!!!)

Arghus · 23-01-2020 10:15pm

holly8 wrote: »

Joe Loughanne anyone??

Hopefully not.

Snow Garden · 23-01-2020 11:19pm

holly8 wrote: »

Joe Loughanne anyone??

His poster makes me think he'd be better off on the RTE Angelus than the Galway West election.

Bredabe · 24-01-2020 12:54am

telekon wrote: »

Fair dues to mike. I’ve never seen so many posters for one person anywhere in the country as I have seen for Ollie Crowe this week. They’re absolutely everywhere! I was hoping that candidates would have the cop on to limit their garbage somewhat in this day and age where the environment is such a hot topic. As far as I’ve heard they’re not recyclable which makes it even more infuriating.

One of his large poster's on legs types just outside my colleague's bedroom. No nookie for her since she has seen the poster, she finds it.......'off putting':D

gordongekko · 24-01-2020 9:37am

Snow Garden wrote: »

His poster makes me think he'd be better off on the RTE Angelus than the Galway West election.

Not with this type of language

https://youtu.be/1gkiGUBAM7g

pure.conya · 24-01-2020 9:51am

spurshero wrote: »

Good one . You should be on stage in the town hall .

so should crowe with his comedy act

pure.conya · 24-01-2020 9:54am

Snow Garden wrote: »

Yep it's a bit pathetic. Maybe some of the electorate would fall for it but I find it patronising.

sure Frank "fianna fail" fahy had a huge election sign at corrib great southern site 8 years ago claiming responsibility for bringing the road to Galway, they have a serious neck those fianna fail bull****ters

Homelander · 24-01-2020 12:22pm

gordongekko wrote: »

Not with this type of language

https://youtu.be/1gkiGUBAM7g

I saw this actually the other day as well. Seems pretty shockingly incompatible with his normal public persona, he's intense and ideas might not be for everyone but usually seems decent enough.

https://gript.ie/anti-racism-activist-who-called-grealish-a-racist-has-long-record-of-abusive-behaviour/

Stewball · 24-01-2020 1:51pm

Homelander wrote: »

https://gript.ie/anti-racism-activist-who-called-grealish-a-racist-has-long-record-of-abusive-behaviour/

Gript media... Right up there with the Liberal as a top quality news site :rolleyes:

Homelander · 24-01-2020 2:07pm

OK? What's the implication, it's either an irrelevant comment, or else the implication that it's not really Joe Loughnane in that article.

I can assure you I don't get my daily (or any) news from Gript, but I thought that was an interesting article.

flynnlives · 24-01-2020 3:21pm

How many houses do the Crowes lease back to the Council?
How much are they making each month from the State via HAP and other state subsidies?

As for the bypass himself and his brother have been sitting on the council for the majority of the last 20 years and have done nothing about it.
Almost half of that time FF where in power. They even had Frank Fahey as a junior minister but did **** all. Crowe seems to have also discovered Facebook ads and is spending a decent amount on sponsored posts. The only candidate i can see that is paying for ads on Facebook.

More accurately they didn't have the pull within FF do get Galway related stuff on the table.
o'cuiv is the only one in FF with any pull but hes happy fixing the roads in West Connemara and saying a cuplea focal. Micheal martin is no fan anyways so if FF are returned o'cuiv might be sidelined.
So a vote for FF is a waste.

The same goes for Naughton and Kyne in FG. What have they delivered for Galway?
Hildigarde and especially Kyne have been ghosts the last 4 years.
These two have done nothing for Galway in last 4 years, so another wasted vote.

Grealish is an opportunist gombeen happy out in oranmore.

Labour seem to have collapsed in galway city. Micheal D's daughter was supposed to take the reigns but has done nothing.
Mcnellis seems to be a token effort by running.

The shinners ive no time for.

Cubbard seems to be the only local politician that appears to want to get stuff done and improves peoples lot. His social media game is top notch.

Social Democrats will get my No.1. Only party with policies that appeal to me. 2nd maybe to the greens.
Im surprised the SocDems arent doing better in the city as i had assumed we are a hip and progressive place. lol

This country/City doesn't need another landlord/auctioneer/publican/teacher in Dail Eireann. Nothing changes. Can people accept this and actually think about their vote?

holly8 · 24-01-2020 3:25pm

Homelander wrote: »

I saw this actually the other day as well. Seems pretty shockingly incompatible with his normal public persona, he's intense and ideas might not be for everyone but usually seems decent enough.

https://gript.ie/anti-racism-activist-who-called-grealish-a-racist-has-long-record-of-abusive-behaviour/

Just look at who and what keeps Joe Loughnane and his past antics in the media...all.persons far more extreme and scarier than JL ever will be ... it is having the opposite effect on me though, I might actually vote for him! Well impressed with his ability to protest, organise and his passion at the last GARM protest.

Love his Angelus-like election posters too!

what_traffic · 24-01-2020 3:25pm

flynnlives wrote: »

More accurately they didn't have the pull within FF do get Galway related stuff on the table.
o'cuiv is the only one in FF with any pull but hes happy fixing the roads in West Connemara and saying a cuplea focal. Micheal martin is no fan anyways so if FF are returned o'cuiv might be sidelined.

True - unless FF go into Goverment with SF in the end? O Cuiv has been one of the main proponents of this within FF

Snow Garden · 24-01-2020 3:42pm

flynnlives wrote: »

Social Democrats will get my No.1. Only party with policies that appeal to me. 2nd maybe to the greens.

I am also thinking along those lines.

Pen Rua · 24-01-2020 4:07pm

The Leaders' Debate on Monday is being broadcast from NUIG: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/nuigalumnirelations_ge2020-activity-6626144677684928512-78oL

A handful of students quite annoyed by it - how RTE/NUIG are kicking out students from Aras na Mac Leinn (Students Building) to host the debate. lol. One student saying NUIG should have booked this back in May! (https://twitter.com/mle_aherne/status/1220720828041584642).

zell12 · 24-01-2020 9:27pm

Constituency poll next Tuesday on TG4
In 2016, they were a bit off the first preference and actual result

shenanagans · 24-01-2020 9:30pm

Hildegard Naughtons team are busy putting up new posters that last couple of days. She must feel under threat of losing her seat if she printing and putting up more posters.

amiable · 24-01-2020 11:07pm

Have any of the city councillors who are running indicated who will replace them on the council if elected? Is it a party decision or up to the councillor?

westgolf · 24-01-2020 11:34pm

amiable wrote: »

Have any of the city councillors who are running indicated who will replace them on the council if elected? Is it a party decision or up to the councillor?

Don't they have to nominate an alternative / alternate to take up their place if successful ? If memory serves me the replacement doesn't have to face the electorate on taking up the seat. I seem to remember the Connolly's pulling such a stroke when the dail seat was achieved ?

amiable · 24-01-2020 11:51pm

westgolf wrote: »

Don't they have to nominate an alternative / alternate to take up their place if successful ? If memory serves me the replacement doesn't have to face the electorate on taking up the seat. I seem to remember the Connolly's pulling such a stroke when the dail seat was achieved ?

That would be interesting with who Pauline O’Reilly chooses as it appears some of her prominent supporters are ones that objected to the Cappagh Park lights. Pauline was supporting Knocknacarra for the lights this week.

Utopia Parkway · 25-01-2020 4:59am

telekon wrote: »

Fair dues to mike. I’ve never seen so many posters for one person anywhere in the country as I have seen for Ollie Crowe this week. They’re absolutely everywhere! I was hoping that candidates would have the cop on to limit their garbage somewhat in this day and age where the environment is such a hot topic. As far as I’ve heard they’re not recyclable which makes it even more infuriating.

Drove out past Claregalway direction last weekend and he had the place polluted with his posters the entire way. Wasn't that many from the other candidates but that might have changed since.

lion_bar · 25-01-2020 10:01am

amiable wrote: »

That would be interesting with who Pauline O’Reilly chooses as it appears some of her prominent supporters are ones that objected to the Cappagh Park lights. Pauline was supporting Knocknacarra for the lights this week.

I don't think anyone has objected. It was a decision by the executive that the club didn't have permission so had to remove them. As far as I can tell all councillors feel they should be reinstalled.

Independents can nominate who they like. Parties usually have a selection convention for choosing a replacement. I suppose it's a cost issue for not running a bye election. To run in the MEP election you need to nominate 5 alternatives !

Bobeagleburger · 25-01-2020 10:09am

Is voting for Independents a waste in a general election? They are too focused on local issues, something that the councilors should be dealing with surely. Most importantly, they'll probably have no say in the running of the country, or in an opposition party.

Zzippy · 25-01-2020 11:32am

westgolf wrote: »

Don't they have to nominate an alternative / alternate to take up their place if successful ? If memory serves me the replacement doesn't have to face the electorate on taking up the seat. I seem to remember the Connolly's pulling such a stroke when the dail seat was achieved ?

How was it a stroke if it was completely within the law? Did you expect the council to hold a by-election for a single council seat? She nominated her sister, who was also a former councillor who had been elected in her own right previously, and who would have a similar political outlook. I don't see any stroke.

zell12 · 25-01-2020 11:41am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Drove out past Claregalway direction last weekend and he had the place polluted with his posters the entire way. Wasn't that many from the other candidates but that might have changed since.

We are all talking about Ollie Crowe, severe chance he'll get elected then

gordongekko · 25-01-2020 11:54am

holly8 wrote: »

Just look at who and what keeps Joe Loughnane and his past antics in the media...all.persons far more extreme and scarier than JL ever will be ... it is having the opposite effect on me though, I might actually vote for him! Well impressed with his ability to protest, organise and his passion at the last GARM protest.

Love his Angelus-like election posters too!

https://youtu.be/1gkiGUBAM7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkiGUBAM7g

Anyone that finds the behaviour in this video as being suitable to represent people in the dail should have their vote taken off them

fergiesfolly · 25-01-2020 12:24pm

6 wrote: »

Is voting for Independents a waste in a general election? They are too focused on local issues, something that the councilors should be dealing with surely. Most importantly, they'll probably have no say in the running of the country, or in an opposition party.

If there was ever a country where independent members of parliament had an exagerated role in government, it's this one.
Shane Ross, Catherine Zappone, Finian McGrath, John Halligan, all Ministers or Ministers of State. Not to mention the likes of the Healy Raes in opposition. Arguably the most vocal members on the opposition benches.
Going forward, independents will have an even louder voice in the Dail as larger parties lose more and more support from the general public.
If only the caliber of candidate was a little better, we could have a very healthy, forward thinking Oireachtas.

Snow Garden · 25-01-2020 12:39pm

6 wrote: »

Is voting for Independents a waste in a general election? They are too focused on local issues, something that the councilors should be dealing with surely. Most importantly, they'll probably have no say in the running of the country, or in an opposition party.

I disagree. Given the stupid whip system in the parliamentary parties, the backbench TDs are essentially gagged. They have to tow the party line always.
Independents have more of a voice now than ever. Our own Catherine Connolly was extremely impressive on getting answers to the waste of taxpayer money on the PAC. It took Independent TDs to highlight the extensive corruption in the Gardai and finally get justice for Maurice McCabe. Remember what the 'establishment' were willing to do to that poor man and his family. He nearly did not survive it.

holly8 · 25-01-2020 1:23pm

gordongekko wrote: »

https://youtu.be/1gkiGUBAM7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkiGUBAM7g

Anyone that finds the behaviour in this video as being suitable to represent people in the dail should have their vote taken off them

as opposed to Ray Burke, Michael Lowry, Ivor Callely, Healy Raes, .... the list goes on and on ... thankfully we live in a democracy and we all get to vote for whoever we want whether you approve or not

biko · 25-01-2020 1:59pm

In a democracy you trust the average Soaps to make the best decision aggregated.
We will have to respect that, even if we think some people are making a crazy choice.

gordongekko · 25-01-2020 9:11pm

biko wrote: »

In a democracy you trust the average Soaps to make the best decision aggregated.
We will have to respect that, even if we think some people are making a crazy choice.

We get the government we deserve

holly8 · 25-01-2020 9:30pm

gordongekko wrote: »

We get the government we deserve

And look where we are with that ...

gordongekko · 25-01-2020 11:13pm

holly8 wrote: »

And look where we are with that ...

Yes we are talking about voting in that lad. We really are at a new low.

General Election 20 GalwayWest

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