Lager Snobbery

Clareman · 19-12-2019 9:41pm

I must be the only person who likes Budweiser by the looks of things, the poor owners must be struggling to make ends meat seeing as there isn't anyone drinking their product.....

smelly sock · 19-12-2019 9:42pm

Clareman wrote: »

I must be the only person who likes Budweiser by the looks of things, the poor owners must be struggling to make ends meat seeing as there isn't anyone drinking their product.....

Scangers drink it.

19-12-2019 9:43pm

sugarman wrote: »

For the sake of an extra 40 calories per pint I'd rather enjoy a good tasting one than a bland watered down one.

...Nothing an extra few minutes if working out spread across the week wouldn't even out anyway.

Absolutely. But every little helps when it comes to losing that weight and sometimes I feel like some bland tasteless beers.

peasant · 19-12-2019 9:52pm

the reason why Bud is indeed piss ...

look at the middle of that label..the R word....:eek:

circadian · 19-12-2019 9:54pm

1079 Project in Aldi is great value. Not going to blow anyone away but cheap and very drinkable.

Zaph · 19-12-2019 9:57pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

I reckon the taste of Victoria Bitter would hold up after all those years. Anyone seen VB on sale in Ireland?

Molloys used to sell it but haven't had it for a few years now. O'Briens had it too, but I'm rarely in any of their shops so no idea if they still stock it.

moonage · 19-12-2019 9:58pm

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Zaph · 19-12-2019 10:04pm

moonage wrote: »

How many beers have a love song written about them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfqguL88tA

andekwarhola · 19-12-2019 10:08pm

decky1 wrote: »

have any of them 'Drank Piss' to be able to compare it to larger?

Might be mistaken but I think it's a figure of speech as opposed to having a glass of your own urine.

Church on Tuesday · 19-12-2019 10:26pm

Donnielighto wrote: »

Weak taste, no body or bite, very watery. Which I suppose are all the same thing?

American beer is piss in general.

Heineken is average to awful. Carlsberg is perfectly fine on tap most of the time.

Carling on tap has a head on it much like Don King's 'fro but it will do in a pinch and actually isn't that bad.

Tuborg is fine on tap and can.

Bav will give you bad hangovers.

Bud is mostly for kids who want to get drunk real quick in a field somewhere and men in bootcut jeans.

Quite like Tiger on tap.

BraveDonut · 19-12-2019 10:31pm

Have been a confirmed 'craft' beer drinker for many years - or as my brothers call them, wanker beers.
My favourite would always be an IPA. Not snobby about it - just look at what's on special.
Found I couldn't drink them on a session for 2 reasons -
1. High % just got me hammered
2. Couldn't handle the hoppy aftertaste after about 4

Suddenly stopped drinking ales in the last few months and back on the lager - mostly Heineken.
If I am in someones house and they offer Budweiser , I'll have tea.

The Rape of Lucretia · 19-12-2019 10:31pm

Lager is yucky.

All of them. Its just a great conspiracy, fueled by the advertising industry, sports associations, and men wanting to be more man than the man beside them. They are afraid to call a spade a spade - its a bad drink, at best tolerably drinkable without spitting it out, at worst, downright unpleasant and sooner not touched again. Drinkers of various ones all call the others ones assorted variations of urine, generally of an animal variety, but piss nonetheless. Which is an accurately repulsive description of how one's reaction to drinking lager should be. But somehow they hang on to the idea that their variety is not piss.

Lager snobbery is hopeless optimism/delusion. It is the realisation that all the global brands of lager make something no one in their right mind would voluntarily choose to drink. But combined with an unwillingness to accept that that is the case will ALL lagers. Which spurs them on to some fuitless journey looking for some lager that does actually taste nice. But they are chasing the gold at the end of the rainbow. Piss coloured gold.

Ipso · 19-12-2019 10:33pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

American beer is piss in general.

Heineken is average to awful. Carlsberg is perfectly fine on tap most of the time.

Carling on tap has a head on it much like Don King's 'fro but it will do in a pinch and actually isn't that bad.

Tuborg is fine on tap and can.

Bav will give you bad hangovers.

Bud is mostly for kids who want to get drunk real quick in a field somewhere and men in bootcut jeans.

Quite like Tiger on tap.

Yeah, those beers upward of 8% are pure piss.

elfy4eva · 19-12-2019 10:33pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Lager is yucky.

All of them. Its just a great conspiracy, fueled by the advertising industry, sports associations, and men wanting to be more man than the man beside them. They are afraid to call a spade a spade - its a bad drink, at best tolerably drinkable without spitting it out, at worst, downright unpleasant and sooner not touched again. Drinkers of various ones all call the others ones assorted variations of urine, generally of an animal variety, but piss nonetheless.

Lager snobbery is hopeless optimism/delusion. It is the realisation that all the global brands of lager make something no one in their right mind would voluntarily choose to drink. But combined with an unwillingness to accept that that is the case will ALL lagers. Which spurs them on to some fuitless journey looking for some lager that does actually taste nice. But they are chasing the gold at the end of the rainbow. Piss coloured gold.

Well enlighten us as to what glorious ambrosia you drink.

Ipso · 19-12-2019 10:37pm

Hard to beat a nice bock.

KaiserGunner · 19-12-2019 10:48pm

I’d drink almost any beer to be fair. If I’m out in a pub my preference is a pint of Guinness, but if I couldn’t be bothered waiting for it I’ll go for a pint of Heineken.

If I’m having a few cans at home it’s usually whatever is on special at the time. Heineken, Guinness, Hop House 13, Carlsberg, Peroni, Stella Artois, Lech. All great for a night in. What I will say though is Heineken 5.0% abv is far superior to the 4.3% abv that we usually get in ireland.

andekwarhola · 19-12-2019 10:48pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

American beer is piss in general

It's really not.

Effects · 19-12-2019 10:53pm

castletownman wrote: »

Beer snobs are only second to music snobs in the wankery index.

Feck off with your aprons, beards and lumberjack shirts.

Nah, gen pop **** who moan about beards and lumberjack shirts are actually the worst. Nobody wears lumberjack shirts these days. You're just moaning because you have a chip on your shoulder about people with different tastes to you.

castletownman · 19-12-2019 11:06pm

Effects wrote: »

Nah, gen pop **** who moan about beards and lumberjack shirts are actually the worst. Nobody wears lumberjack shirts these days. You're just moaning because you have a chip on your shoulder about people with different tastes to you.

Wow. I almost spit out my generic beer.

Effects · 19-12-2019 11:09pm

castletownman wrote: »

Wow. I almost spit out my generic beer.

Don't spit it out. Just realise not everyone wants to drink the same thing that you do.

Church on Tuesday · 19-12-2019 11:12pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

It's really not.

Not in the literal sense I guess.

PeteEd · 19-12-2019 11:27pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I like tuborg and even tennents when i want a crisp refreshing lager, but budweiser is awful.
I still can't get my head around the fact that grown men drink coors light in this country.

Fellow Tennents connoisseur here,

Windsor Park very recently dropped it association with this fine Scottish nectar in favour of Sadlers Peaky Blinder Craft Lager.

And in review to this astute business decision, i'd rather lick the pish of a tramps shoes than hand over anymore of my cash to a gimmicky cap wearing bartender serving this muck ever again

Reviews and Books Galore · 19-12-2019 11:37pm

You know, I have a Bock Style Dark Ruby Beer in the fridge, and yesterday I tried Baltic style Porter with chilli.

But, I look down on craft beer :P

Zebra3 · 19-12-2019 11:46pm

Ipso wrote: »

Hard to beat a nice bock.

Oh yeah, Superbock!! Yum!! :pac:

andekwarhola · 19-12-2019 11:52pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Not in the literal sense I guess.

My post sounded a bit smartarse but I just meant America has a huge amount of beers/brewers. One of the best countries in the world for them to be fair.

PeteEd · 20-12-2019 12:01am

KungPao wrote: »

You just can’t beat a few Harp.

You need clean beat for even mentioning the H word

Church on Tuesday · 20-12-2019 12:16am

andekwarhola wrote: »

My post sounded a bit smartarse but I just meant America has a huge amount of beers/brewers. One of the best countries in the world for them to be fair.

That are not readily available here to mass market.

All the well known American beers are poor. The obscure ones could be good but I've never had them or came across them.

What would you recommend?

simongurnick · 20-12-2019 12:18am

andekwarhola wrote: »

It's definitely a curious Irish thing, perhaps due to the central cultural place alcohol has here or the way it's valorized. I know lads who are perfectly 'discerning' (for want of a better word) about everything from food to music, that turn into a bit of a frothing mess about people's supposed beer 'pretentions'.

Mostly beer here is something to neck quickly to get pissed without tasting it unless it's Guinness and then with that you get this whole near mystical connoisseur thing about illusory levels of quality on a pub by pub basis.

Note that quality gin or whiskey never inspires the same sacrilege response as beer.

Can you imagine average people in most European countries caring about who is going for a higher end pilsner or Belgian beer over a supermarket one? I was in Holland a while back on a work trip and was the only one ordering leffe bruin (one of many locals I should add) and I still get the piss taken from me about it to this day.

It's kinda mystifying. I think in 10-15 years, it will just be seen to be normal to like different beers. The craft thing is an angle because we've had a fairly limited brewing scene and tastes here.

Not unique to ireland at all. I live in canada and its exactly the same. Also had a few days in Belgium last year and many seemed pretty serious about their beers...similar to wine connoisseurs

simongurnick · 20-12-2019 12:24am

Also the blandness of mass produced beers is no myth. Inbev and anheuser have bought up so many brands and changed recipes. Stella is different now to 10 yrs ago for sure.
I hear america getting a few digs...try sam adams and get back to me.
I love a craft beer but on thing i cant stand are the food pairings...its not wine for gods sake

KungPao · 20-12-2019 12:31am

Had a 4pk of Pražský this evening (damn right that’s a copy and paste).

Where does such a beer stand in the snobbery stakes?

Is it piss like the Dutch G or “ooh look at you and your Czech Premium Lager, is Tennents not good enough for ya?”

Don’t care either way. A nice few light beers, goes down a treat and no chance of a hangover.

Giddy up.

20-12-2019 1:38am

I'm really over any sort of craft or strong beer. I enjoy the physical act of drinking so prefer a regular 4-5% beer, or the weak fresh beer in Vietnam is often the best. You can drink 30 of them and be grand enough the next day cause they're only around 2% or something.

Last time I had strong beer, I ended up needing stitches.

Strumms · 20-12-2019 1:47am

L1011 wrote: »

However, Budweiser is particularly awful as its manufactured using the cheapest possible ingredients including the use of rice as an adjunct.

Budweiser is piss, pure pîss water with all the beers that are available on the market now , multiple choices I can’t fathom how it could be considered drinkable...to sell by the load as it seems to especially. It even tastes cheap.

Acosta · 20-12-2019 2:14am

Bru lager is lovely. 4 pint bottles for a tenner in centra

andekwarhola · 20-12-2019 2:17am

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

That are not readily available here to mass market.

All the well known American beers are poor. The obscure ones could be good but I've never had them or came across them.

What would you recommend?

It's really hard on memory to list every American beer I've managed to try in Ireland and I'm not going to google but start of with the following brewers:

Founders
Sierra Nevada
Brooklyn
Stone
Lagunitas
Odell
Oskar Blues

That's just my off of cuff list based on recent memory. Just go to the nearest decent off license and try stuff out. Like people are at pains to say in this thread, it's not about snobbery, just drink stuff you like whatever it is. Who cares what people drink at the end of the day.

hetuzozaho · 20-12-2019 2:20am

Clareman wrote: »

I must be the only person who likes Budweiser by the looks of things, the poor owners must be struggling to make ends meat seeing as there isn't anyone drinking their product.....

The owners pretty much own everything else anyway

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-12-2019 2:56am

Does and IPA count as snobbery...?

I like the taste of IPA (especially Brewdog) but failing that I'm abivalent when it comes to lager. Anything except Budweiser and I'm happy.

The German ones aren't lagers though - they're pilseners (there is a difference, I'm told)

MSVforever · 20-12-2019 5:43am

Forget about pish like Budweiser, Carlsberg etc.

Radeberger, Koenig Pilsener, Krombacher all the way.

Ipso · 20-12-2019 5:52am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Does and IPA count as snobbery...?

I like the taste of IPA (especially Brewdog) but failing that I'm abivalent when it comes to lager. Anything except Budweiser and I'm happy.

The German ones aren't lagers though - they're pilseners (there is a difference, I'm told)

Pilsners are types of lagers. Lager comes from a German word for storage. Lagers are stored a cool temperature for a long time to condition, the yeast used also ferments at lower temperatures than ale yeast and doesn’t leave any flavours. Smitwicks is actually lagered. Then there are beers that straddle both styles, Kolsch styles are brewed with ale yeast but like a lager and baltic porters are actually lagers.
Here’s a list of types of lagers.
https://www.dummies.com/food-drink/drinks/beer/types-of-lagers/

harry Bailey esq · 20-12-2019 7:25am

con___manx1 wrote: »

Bavaria is a nice beer. Would love a few cans with some beer snobs

It sure is. Beats most other Dutch brews. I'm also quite partial to grolsch mind.

circadian · 20-12-2019 7:34am

KungPao wrote: »

Had a 4pk of Pražský this evening (damn right that’s a copy and paste).

Where does such a beer stand in the snobbery stakes?

Is it piss like the Dutch G or “ooh look at you and your Czech Premium Lager, is Tennents not good enough for ya?”

Don’t care either way. A nice few light beers, goes down a treat and no chance of a hangover.

Giddy up.

Fiver for a 4 pack and it's not offensive. Deal.

smelly sock · 20-12-2019 8:27am

simongurnick wrote: »

Also the blandness of mass produced beers is no myth. Inbev and anheuser have bought up so many brands and changed recipes. Stella is different now to 10 yrs ago for sure.
I hear america getting a few digs...try sam adams and get back to me.
I love a craft beer but on thing i cant stand are the food pairings...its not wine for gods sake

No.

Heinekens , Carlsbergs Coors etc have been brewing for hundreds of years. They are the biggest selling beers in the world. They must be doing something right.

And you dont sound like a twat ordering it.

A pint of plumbers precum.

I have drank Moosehead before. Is that a craft beer?

Grandeeod · 20-12-2019 8:36am

Tuborg is seriously underrated.

Captain Flaps · 20-12-2019 9:58am

This thread reminds me of a recipe I posted on another forum before, I think you lot might enjoy it.

Bavaria Floats

You will need:

- 1 x Can Bavaria Gold Crown (may work with another beer, I haven't tested it so can't guarantee results)
- A freezer
- Vanilla Ice Cream - Ben and Jerry's or Hagen Daaz work the best here. I had neither, so i used generic Vanilla from my local store.

Preparation:

Unpack your ingredients. Leave the Bavaria to settle for a few minutes before freezing, to avoid trapping air bubbles.

Take your Bavaria Gold Crown and put it in your freezer box. Mine is horizontal, but vertical is preferable.

Now, allow at least 10 hours for the freeze.

Remove from the freezer. Mmmm, see that nice layer of ice and the dent at the top? That means it's worked.

Using a cooking knife like mine, pictured, carefully open your Bavaria. Be careful with the edges of the can, as they will be sharp.

Once that's done, get a nice scoop of your chosen ice cream.

Take half the Bavaria log and add ift to your ice cream. At this stage, you can mash it down into a slushee texture, but I prefer to keep the log shape and chip away at that.

Add to this your choice of toppings. I've gone for Strawberry sauce and some of my girlfriend's homemade flapjacks. We're looking good now.

And enjoy! I hope you all like this as much as I did. Comments and suggestions appreciated.

20-12-2019 10:01am

suicide_circus wrote: »

a pint of plain is yer only man

Sister's boyfriend is Finnish but a wannabe Corkonion (he's a total w@nker).
He claims Guinness is desperate stuff but Beamish is wonderful.

Acosta · 20-12-2019 10:06am

Augeo wrote: »

Sister's boyfriend is Finnish but a wannabe Corkonion (he's a total w@nker).
He claims Guinness is desperate stuff but Beamish is wonderful.

Beamish goes down well but I find it dog rough the next morning. I was Guinness for years but moved to Murphy's year ago and haven't looked back.

andekwarhola · 20-12-2019 10:09am

It's really funny and original when people invent satirical names for imaginary IPAs to lampoon craft beer.

It's not utilized nearly enough as a comedic device in my opinion.

20-12-2019 10:13am

Captain Flaps wrote: »

And enjoy! I hope you all like this as much as I did. Comments and suggestions appreciated.

Reminds me of a lovely "Chinese medicinal chicken" that's cooked in cans. It's a bit different to the picture but I used to buy the can and it would have been sliced in the middle. Take it home and open it into a bowl. Two euro.

Scott Tenorman · 20-12-2019 10:15am

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Budweiser is piss though.

It's funny, i drank Budweiser for years then it became unpopular and couldn't get it anymore.

Was out recently and tried Rockshore and it is almost exactly the same as Budweiser and everybody loves it LOL!

Just shows that marketing does work.

20-12-2019 10:17am

Budweiser is like a different drink for me. It tastes so different to most beers. Never liked it.

Acosta · 20-12-2019 10:22am

Scott Tenorman wrote: »

It's funny, i drank Budweiser for years then it became unpopular and couldn't get it anymore.

Was out recently and tried Rockshore and it is almost exactly the same as Budweiser and everybody loves it LOL!

Just shows that marketing does work.

You can market anything. The Coronas are popular for christ sake. If people are taken in by those Rockshore ads then they deserve to drink ****e beer.

I mostly only drank stout before the craft beer thing came along. Having a beer at home now is much more enjoyable not having to drink Carlsberg etc and about 90% of the craft stuff I drink is Irish.