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beef price tracker

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,843 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I'm inclined to agree Bass, but I reckon beef price will miraculously lift next Feb when all the dairy calves hit the ground.

    The Mercusor deal hasn't gone away either, so if we simply stop producing beef here, it will be imported from 3rd countries or wherever it is produced cheaply. Most consumers don't give a fcuk about quality or taste or whether it's 30 days aged angus or not, it's just the price they look at.

    China wanted u30 mth beef but they didn't want QA, which means to me that they were buying at a price. None of us know what price or credit terms Brazilian beef goes to China at. We don't even know what Irish processors are getting for beef going to China either.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,837 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The price of beef is inelastic. If the price drops, the consumer doesn't buy more. The price isn't the critical factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    Kepak offering 355 and no cut for heavy cattle this week

    does that mean they have to give 4 months notice now to change it....lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,650 ✭✭✭Robson99


    gerryirl wrote: »
    does that mean they have to give 4 months notice now to change it....lol

    You wouldn't get 4 days notice let alone 4 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭Fireside Solicitor


    3.55 flat no bonus. at least they are gone. No stock now. To buy or not to buy that is the question?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,090 ✭✭✭kk.man


    3.55 flat no bonus. at least they are gone. No stock now. To buy or not to buy that is the question?

    Buy, they wont be any cheaper imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,225 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    3.55 flat no bonus. at least they are gone. No stock now. To buy or not to buy that is the question?

    I always try to buy previous to selling especially if the market is down low, I usually find that this is the most profiatble way to manage the market. Shifed a few cattle this week. They were inside since ,id September. They were all under 30 months. Excellent weights they were on 5ish kgs and wholecrop bales of barley silage. But from the look of the lairages cattle numbers have droppedand processors will struggle with numbers after Christmass for a few weeks

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Any quotes for the coming week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭1373


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Any quotes for the coming week?

    Two agents rang me yesterday, one saying numbers are tighter than a month ago . The other lad trying to talk things down. No prices given but to have guys inquiring is a big improvement . A local farmer/meal merchant tells me his finishing ration is back 100ton per week which is a positive for the rest of us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭dryan


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Any quotes for the coming week?

    On the phone to agent last night.
    3.60 base for steers with no weight restriction on offer in Kilbeggan.
    Have 3 going overage next week so will move those and a few others.
    Killing tomorrow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    dryan wrote: »
    On the phone to agent last night.
    3.60 base for steers with no weight restriction on offer in Kilbeggan.
    Have 3 going overage next week so will move those and a few others.
    Killing tomorrow.

    It’s far from where we want to be but at least it’s moving. Plenty of stories of agents ringing lads hopefully it’ll lead to something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    1373 wrote: »
    Two agents rang me yesterday, one saying numbers are tighter than a month ago . The other lad trying to talk things down. No prices given but to have guys inquiring is a big improvement . A local farmer/meal merchant tells me his finishing ration is back 100ton per week which is a positive for the rest of us

    Yeah last winter the meal wouldn’t be delivered here for a day or two. This winter it comes the same day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,498 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    It’s far from where we want to be but at least it’s moving. Plenty of stories of agents ringing lads hopefully it’ll lead to something.

    Low prices curing low prices ......... eventually.
    It'd happen quicker but for the subsidies,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Any quotes for the coming week?

    Agent told me on Tuesday liffey meats bjd were €3.60 base for heifers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭locha


    3.60 underage steers 3.55 overage. I’m holding for another week...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,413 ✭✭✭tanko


    Anyone know of quotes for R grade cows?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Any quotes for the week ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,617 ✭✭✭straight


    Any lift in cull cow prices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Heard 3.50 is going for r grade bulls. Up 20cent from a month or 6 weeks ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Hershall


    Any quotes for the week ahead

    3.60 underage bks and hfrs midlands


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    3.60 in spec steers..agent out this evening cattle booked to be kill Thursday morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Tileman


    3.60 in spec steers..agent out this evening cattle booked to be kill Thursday morning

    Surprise surprise prices are up slightly just before the beef forum meeting next week. So the processors and retailers can say nothing to see here we have raised prices over the past few weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Tileman wrote: »
    Surprise surprise prices are up slightly just before the beef forum meeting next week. So the processors and retailers can say nothing to see here we have raised prices over the past few weeks

    Ara. They are still dog sh1t prices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭grange mac


    They really are taking the urine! They just letting farmers know who the boss is. Goodman down playing market, no doubt if prices world wide fall again.... Ireland will lead the fall also. Its any excuse really. They even have the 15% gain in fx.... They just always want win and to me personally only way to minimise losses is do what's best for me not him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭foundation10


    Any prices for inspec heifers for next week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,090 ✭✭✭kk.man


    grange mac wrote: »
    They really are taking the urine! They just letting farmers know who the boss is. Goodman down playing market, no doubt if prices world wide fall again.... Ireland will lead the fall also. Its any excuse really. They even have the 15% gain in fx.... They just always want win and to me personally only way to minimise losses is do what's best for me not him.

    I think the results of the Task Force yesterday spoke volumes.
    Tesco; 30 month beef but 30 days residency.
    The rest; 30 months not a real issue and zero residency.

    Factories have made the rules themselves while stating Supermarkets insist on these specs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,498 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kk.man wrote: »
    I think the results of the Task Force yesterday spoke volumes.
    Tesco; 30 month beef but 30 days residency.
    The rest; 30 months not a real issue and zero residency.

    Factories have made the rules themselves while stating Supermarkets insist on these specs.

    Were they asked yesterday why the had those specs.
    Did they change the specs then yesterday, I'd be surprised if they did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,090 ✭✭✭kk.man


    wrangler wrote: »
    Were they asked yesterday why the had those specs.
    Did they change the specs then yesterday, I'd be surprised if they did

    I think they may have been asked but there is no change I'd say Bord Bia would have to agree or change their rule book for QA Status. It is certain that the Supermarkets are not rigorous as what was portrayed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,498 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kk.man wrote: »
    I think they may have been asked but there is no change I'd say Bord Bia would have to agree or change their rule book for QA Status. It is certain that the Supermarkets are not rigorous as what was portrayed.

    Age, movements,etc are outside the control of bord bia, all they're certifying is that your farm is an acceptable standard.

    ''While your farm may indeed be Quality Assured, this does NOT necessarily mean all your cattle sent for slaughter will receive a Quality Payment Bonus, as this payment is dependent on other factors, outside of Bord Bia’s control. It is the responsibility of the farmer to check! It is absolutely vital that you check out your particular situation BEFORE sending your cattle to the factory. Check with your factory buyer, what the exact criteria are, in order that your cattle receive a Quality Payment Bonus, i.e. Age, Number of Movements, Days Residency, Grade, Weight, etc.''

    This alone highlights the lies that Beef Plan are spewing

    No need to change the Bord Bia rule book


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,090 ✭✭✭kk.man


    wrangler wrote: »
    Age, movements,etc are outside the control of bord bia, all they're certifying is that your farm is an acceptable standard.

    ''While your farm may indeed be Quality Assured, this does NOT necessarily mean all your cattle sent for slaughter will receive a Quality Payment Bonus, as this payment is dependent on other factors, outside of Bord Bia’s control. It is the responsibility of the farmer to check! It is absolutely vital that you check out your particular situation BEFORE sending your cattle to the factory. Check with your factory buyer, what the exact criteria are, in order that your cattle receive a Quality Payment Bonus, i.e. Age, Number of Movements, Days Residency, Grade, Weight, etc.''

    This alone highlights the lies that Beef Plan are spewing

    But every factory adhere strictly to 30 months 4 movements and 70 days. The Supermarkets are not singing off the same hymn sheet.


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