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    #722
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    That’s why I was suggesting you can’t take their word alone; a degree of evidence should be a requirement.

    But with the alternative system suggested you would removed the need for judes and solicitors. You streamline the whole thing.


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    #723
    j8wk2feszrnpao
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    tuxy wrote: »
    But with the alternative system suggested you would removed the need for judes and solicitors. You streamline the whole thing.
    In a ideal World, yes, it would work. But in this World it would open up the possibility of horrific abuse if someone’s word alone was the sole requirement.


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    #724
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,031 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Sour Lemonz wrote: »
    Ireland has now set a potentially dangerous precedent by this move, other countries will now be told to take back a lot of radicalized Isis scum, which will reintroduce these dangerous people back into society to strike out again. Honestly they should all have been left there to face justice from the locals who the hurt, persecuted and killed.

    It was very convenient for her to dismiss her citizenship when it suited to enable (if proven not participated) in Isis agenda and now they were put down hard wishes to come back.

    ireland has set no precedent as countries were always going to be forced to take back their isis members, and they have been forced to do so for a while now and have been taking some of them back.
    it would not have been possible to leave them in syria as the syrians and other groups there do not want them and want them repatriated, turkey is deporting them and trump is threatening to drop isis fighters back to their countries of origin if they refuse to take their isis fighters back, and quite rightly so.
    smith dismissing her citizenship for a terrorist group is ultimately irrelevant, her citizenship still remains and is the only legal citizenship. one cannot be a citizen of a terrorist group, but of a state, which islamic state is not.
    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    I doubt she will, but in a decent country she would be locked up forever or face the death penalty.

    no she would just be locked up for a very long time, but only if she has committed an offence.
    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    so is she willing to leave all her muslim isis crap behind and don normal clothes and adhere to our laws?

    she won't be donning "normal" clothes as quite rightly there is no requirement for her to do so.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #725
    dennispenn
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭dennispenn


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Banning a religion?
    Do you think there is any benefit to that?


    If only Islam were just a religion.


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    #726
    [Deleted User]
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    dennispenn wrote: »
    If only Islam were just a religion.

    It is


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    #727
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    If you were in Dundrum Shopping Centre, and Lisa Smith walked past wearing a rucksack, how would you react?

    Dundrum and Sandyford are full of ninjas, as my Malaysian moderate Muslim friend terms them. Doubt if I would even notice. The only unusual thing would be the wearing of the rucksack, typically the ninjas don't carry rucksacks but shopping bags and have two or three infants in tow, sometimes with the husband present, sometimes not.


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    #728
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Reports in the paper now about how terrified people were on that flight earlier today.
    She was locking eyes with people to scare them through her burka even though you can't see the eyes with a burka.
    She sat out the whole flight without even going to the loo.
    Scary stuff.


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    #729
    fritzelly
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Reports in the paper now about how terrified people were on that flight earlier today.
    She was locking eyes with people to scare them through her burka even though you can't see the eyes with a burka.

    Was this the Mirror or the Star, cannot see their eyes thru a burka - really? Never seen a picture of her in full outfit


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    #730
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Was this the Mirror or the Star, cannot see their eyes thru a burka - really?

    The Mirror of course.

    this is a burka and people could see her eyes glowing right through it.

    nintchdbpict000295002975.jpg?w=620


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    #731
    Calhoun
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    Not just the mirror , https://m.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/i-was-shocked-to-see-her-irish-passengers-describe-turkish-airlines-flight-with-lisa-smith-on-board-38742684.html .


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    #732
    tdf7187
    Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    tuxy wrote: »
    Reports in the paper now about how terrified people were on that flight earlier today.
    She was locking eyes with people to scare them through her burka even though you can't see the eyes with a burka.
    She sat out the whole flight without even going to the loo.
    Scary stuff.

    I heard that under her burka she has the 666 sign written on her head, and that's like the mark of the beast.


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    #733
    PsychoPete
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    tuxy wrote: »
    The Mirror of course.

    this is a burka and people could see her eyes glowing right through it.

    nintchdbpict000295002975.jpg?w=620

    Not sure why but theres something about that picture I find very eerie


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    #734
    BDI
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    I just hope she didn’t radicalise other people on that plane.

    I hope authorities are monitoring all people on that plane and counting how many buggy’s they leave at bus stops.


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    #735
    satguy
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    They should have left her to rot in that camp.
    That child is not Irish, it's father was from Holland, so the kid is Dutch.

    And all that "I was just a housewife",, is cow poo..


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    #736
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    satguy wrote: »
    They should have left her to rot in that camp.
    That child is not Irish, it's father was from Holland, so the kid is Dutch.

    And all that "I was just a housewife",, is cow poo..


    Are you saying this was a legal marriage? Are you sure?


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    c.p.w.g.w
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    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Not sure why but theres something about that picture I find very eerie

    It's like the ghost of Xmas yet to come in Muppets Xmas Carol


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    #738
    Notdeco
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    satguy wrote: »
    They should have left her to rot in that camp.
    That child is not Irish, it's father was from Holland, so the kid is Dutch.

    And all that "I was just a housewife",, is cow poo..
    The child has an Irish mother. I'm sure your post is sarcasm. At least I hope...(ah, I get it now.)


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    #739
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭screamer


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    The family took the kid in, I doubt they'd have done that with some degree of certainty to who it is.

    Dunno... without some sort of DNA test I’d believe nothing especially given the circumstances. It was a war zone after all, I’m sure plenty of kids were orphaned through the actions of the IS fighters.


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    #740
    fritzelly
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    screamer wrote: »
    Dunno... without some sort of DNA test I’d believe nothing especially given the circumstances. It was a war zone after all, I’m sure plenty of kids were orphaned through the actions of the IS fighters.

    If they did and it wasn't hers im sure ireland would have no problem welcoming her anyways
    I kinda half believe it isn't hers and used as an excuse for the sob story to be allowed back


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    #741
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Not sure why but theres something about that picture I find very eerie

    Because that shït shouldn’t be acceptable here.


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    #742
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Because that shït shouldn’t be acceptable here.

    I actually haven't seen someone wearing a burka in Ireland yet. But by all reports in the Mirror that's what Lisa was wearing on the flight over.


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    #743
    uck51js9zml2yt
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    tuxy wrote: »
    I actually haven't seen someone wearing a burka in Ireland yet.
    You need to get out more often!


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    #744
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Myles Salmon Stadium wrote: »
    You need to get out more often!

    Been out in Rathcabbin every day for the last six months......


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    #745
    Sam Quentin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    tuxy wrote: »
    Reports in the paper now about how terrified people were on that flight earlier today.
    She was locking eyes with people to scare them through her burka even though you can't see the eyes with a burka.
    She sat out the whole flight without even going to the loo.
    Scary stuff.
    lol
    It's crazy at this stage,.the fake news in this story is escalating at an astounding rate,.some great examples littered all the way through this thread.


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    #746
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    BDI wrote: »
    I just hope she didn’t radicalise other people on that plane.

    I hope authorities are monitoring all people on that plane and counting how many buggy’s they leave at bus stops.

    Just send them to the interment camp too. Better safe than sorry.


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    #747
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,043 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    youre being pedantic here but yes I would also like to intern people who are members of the IRA.

    Do yourself a favour and study the history of internment in this country before you spout such absolute nonsense.

    If someone on the left proposed imprisonment with trial you’d be outraged, and rightly so. You’d trust the government with this power, even when you do nothing but criticise how they implement current laws.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #748
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,043 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    Seeing people say "Give Lisa and her family some privacy" and "leave her alone"

    My Godness what is wrong with this nation.

    If this case was in England the people would be out on the streets protesting. But as always in this country we let the government do what they want

    Honestly, you should probably move to England if that’s what you’re into. The country is a basket case right now.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #749
    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
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    Andrew00 wrote: »
    If this case was in England the people would be out on the streets protesting. But as always in this country we let the government do what they want

    Ehh, you do realise that there was a terrorist attack carried out in England only a few days ago by a man they left out of prison. Yet there was no street protesting. Think you need a bit of perspective here.


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    #750
    Lillyfae
    Registered Users Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    Notdeco wrote: »
    The child has an Irish mother. I'm sure your post is sarcasm. At least I hope...(ah, I get it now.)

    My child has an Irish mother but isn't Irish....


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    #751
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,043 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »
    Ehh, you do realise that there was a terrorist attack carried out in England only a few days ago by a man they left out of prison. Yet there was no street protesting. Think you need a bit of perspective here.

    It’s the “grass is always greener” mindset.

    How many times have people on this thread opined that this would have been dealt with differently outside Ireland. When really, Ireland is dealing with it the same way as everyone else.

    There is no country locking these people up without trial, that I know of.

    I’d suggest Ireland is doing a better job with integration than most countries in Europe. There aren't any Muslim ghettos, but this could be due to low numbers. I’ve a friend who teaches in he Muslim national school, including some kids who are Syrian refugees, most Muslims in Ireland are pretty well integrated. They aren’t assimilated though, so they still stand out.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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