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The Healy Raes

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  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Danny recently supports Noel grealish comments

    And he was right too, 17 million going back to Nigeria and none of them work, it hardly all came from taxi driving and dole

    Danny Healy Rae is right on a lot of things, rural people should be able to have a couple of pints and drive home, most country people know how to noodle a car home after a couple of pints, townies and city slickers just don’t understand country living
    He’s also right on so called climate change, there is no such thing it’s called evolution, when the ice age ended were they all going around back then saying it’s climate change?
    Unfortunately the Healy’s Rae are the only voice left of rural Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    blinding wrote: »
    Bertie was in the right place at the right time re; the Good Friday Agreement .

    PIRA beaten or at least in a place where there was absolutely no point going on . Demographics ( which they are now ) has far more chance of bringing about a United Ireland than the PIRA .

    Any Irish Politician would have got / done what Bertie did in that position . The British were in control and they gave as much as they did to undermine dissidents republican for the next 25 years and more .

    Its not the first time Bertie bigged himself up for doing feck all .

    The Healy Raes would have done the same if not Better .

    Rubbish about Bertie and the Peace Process.
    Bruton made a **** up of it when he was a short term Taoiseach. Luckily Ahern got it back on track


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    He’s also right on so called climate change, there is no such thing it’s called evolution, when the ice age ended were they all going around back then saying it’s climate change?

    I don't think Danny would agree with evolution in any shape or form :pac:

    In all seriousness when someone thinks the Healy Raes are better informed on scientific topics than the scientists themselves you can only laugh.
    Sure didn't Danny say that only God above controls the climate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's routine at this stage:
    One of the H-Rs, usually Danny, comes out with simpleton pleasing bullcrap, cue howls of derision from mainstream media and praise from his fanbase.
    Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Let's be honest here, a drink driving permit ain't gonna happen. Ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    I don't think Danny would agree with evolution in any shape or form :pac:

    In all seriousness when someone thinks the Healy Raes are better informed on scientific topics than the scientists themselves you can only laugh.
    Sure didn't Danny say that only God above controls the climate.

    Yes and he’s right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Yes and he’s right

    Bahahahaha! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Edgware wrote: »
    Rubbish about Bertie and the Peace Process.
    Bruton made a **** up of it when he was a short term Taoiseach. Luckily Ahern got it back on track
    The Brits wouldn’t have been long slapping Brutal into line . Sure he is more British than the British themselves .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    blinding wrote: »
    The Brits wouldn’t have been long slapping Brutal into line . Sure he is more British than the British themselves .
    At least half of Brutons party werent on the British payroll unlike Sinn Fein/I.RA. leaders


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Edgware wrote: »
    At least half of Brutons party werent on the British payroll unlike Sinn Fein/I.RA. leaders
    I wouldn’t bet my life on that . They made sure the British dark forces got a free pass for the Dublin / Monaghan bombs and probably much more .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    It seems no1 is linking these comments by D.H.R and Noel Grelish to their piss poor Dail attendence and expense accounts? Deflect Deflect Deflect!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    It seems no1 is linking these comments by D.H.R and Noel Grelish to their piss poor Dail attendence and expense accounts? Deflect Deflect Deflect!!!

    Ara I wouldn’t be fond of drinking but when I go at it I like to have 2 pints and drive


  • Registered Users Posts: 511 ✭✭✭tawnyowl


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Danny HR back in the news with a repeat of what Coveney is rightly calling " dangerous nonsense" by seeking to allow Kerry rural residents to drink and drive. breakingnews,ie
    The same day there was this sentencing:
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/leitrim-mans-dangerous-driving-after-21st-birthday-party-left-friend-in-vegetative-state-964517.html
    Even for Danny that's spectacularly bad timing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    blinding wrote: »
    Kerry people are no Fools . The are electing the Premium TDs in the Country and with huge Votes .

    The problem is that the other TDs are no match for the Healy Raes .

    Ireland can only dream of 160+ Healy Raes .
    The only reason they get voted in time after time by the people of Kerry is, they work hard , and why would you fault the people then,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Would you trust a Healy Rae on you Swing or Maria Bailey ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    blinding wrote: »
    Would you trust a Healy Rae on you Swing or Maria Bailey ?

    I would think that if I was comparing public representatives to other people I’d set the bar high not low but then I think more of my country than most.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Twister2


    goat2 wrote: »
    The only reason they get voted in time after time by the people of Kerry is, they work hard , and why would you fault the people then,

    That's about it

    Imagine if we had a dail full of Healy Rae types, would be madness


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    Michael is a postmaster shopkeeper farmer and plant hire, Danny is a publican farmer and plant hire as well as being politicians hard workers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Michael is a postmaster shopkeeper farmer and plant hire, Danny is a publican farmer and plant hire as well as being politicians hard workers

    I doubt many think they don’t work hard, that doesn’t mean they are good TDs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Twister2


    Plant hire is is a good business when you have power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Condensing this thread:

    1. People in Kerry (in general as the votes show) think the HRs are great, are hardworking, create business in Kerry, look after the people of Kerry, meet the people of Kerry and break down the traditional barriers between politics and the people.

    2. The closer you are to Dublin the more likely you are to hate the HRs with a passion.

    I believe there is an element of jealousy, but it seems the main arguments are:

    1. Expenses.
    2. Commitment to National affairs.

    With regard to expenses there is criticism on here as to lack of attendance, and cost of attending. Both of these can be answered relatively easily, time & distance of travel.

    With regard to National affairs, they vote when their vote makes a difference (time & distance of travel again). I imagine everyone on here makes the same decision on a daily basis.

    Shouldn't the talk should be about how a TD should divide their time and effort between local and national matters, as opposed to just name calling of the HRs and the Bog people of Kerry ? Seriously - if you logically evaluated what your TD does for you and the country and compared them, using the same metrics, to the HRs you would be, more than likely, disappointed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    .

    2. The closer you are to Dublin the more likely you are to hate the HRs with a passion.



    Shouldn't the talk should be about how a TD should divide their time and effort between local and national matters, as opposed to just name calling of the HRs and the Bog people of Kerry ? Seriously - if you logically evaluated what your TD does for you and the country and compared them, using the same metrics, to the HRs you would be, more than likely, disappointed.

    On point 2 this is a thing that’s peddled that it’s us and them, it’s divide and conquer and it’s nonsense. There’s no anti rural thing going on it’s just the world changing.

    On the last paragraph they are elected to the national parliament to represent the area, not get things for the area. Also to be clear there are a hell of a lot of politicians also not doing their jobs because we foolishly keep electing people who are seen to be doing local things when they should be in parliament doing that job. Politicians have effectively taken a job in Dublin and a lot don’t seem to want to be there too much and I find that unacceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Ok I understand where you are coming from, so to clarify you don't believe a TD should represent their constituents on anything other than a national matters, and not be concerned with any matters that only effect their county ?

    From citizens.ie :

    As well as work at the Dáil and on Committees, TDs work within their own constituencies. They hold regular advice clinics throughout their constituencies so that voters can meet them personally. Often they provide assistance to constituents with a family/personal problem relating to a government department.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    We should get some Nukes and let the Healy Raes have the Push Buttons .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    blinding wrote: »
    We should get some Nukes and let the Healy Raes have the Push Buttons .

    Can't stop laughing from that. I'm going down the pub, thinking of Healey Rae guided Missiles and how that could change the world...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Voting for a Healy Rae is a one way bet.


    If the votes are needed the parish gets a load of benefits and if not there are no consequences.


    Make it a two way bet.


    Close the schools in Killorglin charge €600 for the new school bus and say it was because they votes Healy Rae.






    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Condensing this thread:

    1. People in Kerry (in general as the votes show) think the HRs are great, are hardworking, create business in Kerry, look after the people of Kerry, meet the people of Kerry and break down the traditional barriers between politics and the people.

    2. The closer you are to Dublin the more likely you are to hate the HRs with a passion.

    I believe there is an element of jealousy, but it seems the main arguments are:

    1. Expenses.
    2. Commitment to National affairs.

    With regard to expenses there is criticism on here as to lack of attendance, and cost of attending. Both of these can be answered relatively easily, time & distance of travel.

    With regard to National affairs, they vote when their vote makes a difference (time & distance of travel again). I imagine everyone on here makes the same decision on a daily basis.

    Shouldn't the talk should be about how a TD should divide their time and effort between local and national matters, as opposed to just name calling of the HRs and the Bog people of Kerry ? Seriously - if you logically evaluated what your TD does for you and the country and compared them, using the same metrics, to the HRs you would be, more than likely, disappointed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Healy Rae brothers Jackie and Kevin found guilty of assault. Sentencing December 6th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Mod NoteMoved from After Hours to Current Affairs, please follow local guide lines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    blinding wrote: »
    Would you trust a Healy Rae on you Swing or Maria Bailey ?
    A Healy Rae, any day


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    Healy Rae brothers Jackie and Kevin found guilty of assault. Sentencing December 6th.

    Will they do time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    This is a district court conviction ,where you get no defence to a summons ,my guess when this is appealed it will be over turned


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,892 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Real small town ballygobackwards stuff

    “This is my town and this is my chip van”

    Immortal words there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Love to see bullies getting done.
    Sadly be likely some small fine and a caution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Ok I understand where you are coming from, so to clarify you don't believe a TD should represent their constituents on anything other than a national matters, and not be concerned with any matters that only effect their county ?

    From citizens.ie :

    As well as work at the Dáil and on Committees, TDs work within their own constituencies. They hold regular advice clinics throughout their constituencies so that voters can meet them personally. Often they provide assistance to constituents with a family/personal problem relating to a government department.

    Sorry just seeing this now, what I meant was that TDs are elected to run the country on behalf of their constituents, local advice clinics are really just a way of pressing the flesh and securing votes. Dealing with a government department on behalf of a constituent for say issues with medical cards for sick children is a whole lot different to putting pressure on a local authority for planning permission.
    Taking a job in Dublin and not being there for a lot of the time because you’ve decided that being around the locality more is better for votes is not how we should let our Parliament be run. Again to be clear I think the dail is rammed with people who don’t do the job properly for a lot of reasons which is often due to party politics, something the HRs only don’t do because snr decided he was better out of FF and would gain more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Real small town ballygobackwards stuff

    “This is my town and this is my chip van”

    Immortal words there

    Lol.
    Bull McCabe for 21st century.

    It's not even a town, a blink and miss it village.


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    Lol.
    Bull McCabe for 21st century.

    It's not even a town, a blink and miss it village.

    The yocals are all probably delighted the Healy’s Rae ran the English fella out of town


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    salmocab wrote: »
    Sorry just seeing this now, what I meant was that TDs are elected to run the country on behalf of their constituents, local advice clinics are really just a way of pressing the flesh and securing votes. Dealing with a government department on behalf of a constituent for say issues with medical cards for sick children is a whole lot different to putting pressure on a local authority for planning permission.
    Taking a job in Dublin and not being there for a lot of the time because you’ve decided that being around the locality more is better for votes is not how we should let our Parliament be run. Again to be clear I think the dail is rammed with people who don’t do the job properly for a lot of reasons which is often due to party politics, something the HRs only don’t do because snr decided he was better out of FF and would gain more.

    Totally get it, you are 100% correct if a TDs job does not involve helping their constituents at a local level. Thats why I checked on Citizens.ie, which to me says that part of a TDs job is to help constituents at a local level.. so I am none the wiser, I searched for a better description of a TDs role, but could only find the one linked.

    So the HRs dont just press the flesh, they listen and help. They make the trip up to Dublin to vote, with their and their constituent concerns on national matters, when their vote would make a difference. I think the make a difference thing is important, as most sane people practise that same rule everyday, yet still use it as criticism of others (if you saw a fully loaded lorry with a failed parking bake running down a hill, you dont run out and try and stop it, because you know your input wont make any difference to the end outcome). So many votes are like that lorry, so best avoid the expenses and time lost with a Dublin trip.

    If someone can point me to a more accurate description of the role of a TD, other than the one on the governments website, that explains there is no local role then the HRs are in contravention of this as they clearly are a great help at local level.

    Edit: Sorry heres the link https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/national_government/houses_of_the_oireachtas/work_of_a_td.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Totally get it, you are 100% correct if a TDs job does not involve helping their constituents at a local level. Thats why I checked on Citizens.ie, which to me says that part of a TDs job is to help constituents at a local level.. so I am none the wiser, I searched for a better description of a TDs role, but could only find the one linked.

    So the HRs dont just press the flesh, they listen and help. They make the trip up to Dublin to vote, with their and their constituent concerns on national matters, when their vote would make a difference. I think the make a difference thing is important, as most sane people practise that same rule everyday, yet still use it as criticism of others (if you saw a fully loaded lorry with a failed parking bake running down a hill, you dont run out and try and stop it, because you know your input wont make any difference to the end outcome). So many votes are like that lorry, so best avoid the expenses and time lost with a Dublin trip.

    If someone can point me to a more accurate description of the role of a TD, other than the one on the governments website, that explains there is no local role then the HRs are in contravention of this as they clearly are a great help at local level.

    Edit: Sorry heres the link https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/national_government/houses_of_the_oireachtas/work_of_a_td.html

    This when it would make a difference vote is a nonsense I think, the numbers voting are often very low with so many not there that in fact if they all bothered to be there there might be a different outcome. I suspect that the website you linked just says what TDs do, i doubt there is an official job spec but this is the system we have allowed to build up as far too many people accept this as what we should get instead of demanding better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    salmocab wrote: »
    This when it would make a difference vote is a nonsense I think, the numbers voting are often very low with so many not there that in fact if they all bothered to be there there might be a different outcome. I suspect that the website you linked just says what TDs do, i doubt there is an official job spec but this is the system we have allowed to build up as far too many people accept this as what we should get instead of demanding better.

    Yes the government website I linked to does indeed just say "what a TD does", not what they "should do". If thats the governments view of what TDs do, then the HRs are doing it, so should not get criticised for expected behaviour.

    I really have no idea on specific votes, so no idea, you might well be right I dont know. I think the only way you could know is if you were a TD yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Yes the government website I linked to does indeed just say "what a TD does", not what they "should do". If thats the governments view of what TDs do, then the HRs are doing it, so should not get criticised for expected behaviour.

    I really have no idea on specific votes, so no idea, you might well be right I dont know. I think the only way you could know is if you were a TD yourself.
    Yes it’s expected behaviour but that doesn’t mean it’s right. We expect this from our politicians, that’s hardly a ringing endorsement. I want better, I don’t like that our parliament is rammed with people who don’t do what they are meant to do. If you take a job in Dublin then you should be there when the dail is open. Clocking in and walking straight out the door with no intention of doing anything in the dail that day is to me unacceptable behaviour from an adult let alone a public servant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    salmocab wrote: »
    Yes it’s expected behaviour but that doesn’t mean it’s right. We expect this from our politicians, that’s hardly a ringing endorsement. I want better, I don’t like that our parliament is rammed with people who don’t do what they are meant to do. If you take a job in Dublin then you should be there when the dail is open. Clocking in and walking straight out the door with no intention of doing anything in the dail that day is to me unacceptable behaviour from an adult let alone a public servant.

    So thats why I think a job description of what a TD should do is required. In fact I would say its essential to able to judge if any TDs behaviour unacceptable.

    If the HRs are doing what the government says TDs do, then the local aspect of their work cannot be criticised, its just an opinion.

    There is so much about government that has nothing to do with whats right/fair or just, "its just the way things are done". I agree with you an overhaul is long overdue.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    A shower of clowns the lot of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    So thats why I think a job description of what a TD should do is required. In fact I would say its essential to able to judge if any TDs behaviour unacceptable.

    If the HRs are doing what the government says TDs do, then the local aspect of their work cannot be criticised, its just an opinion.

    There is so much about government that has nothing to do with whats right/fair or just, "its just the way things are done". I agree with you an overhaul is long overdue.

    A job description is limiting though, I prefer a common sense approach. I would find it very difficult to put in words exactly what they should and shouldn’t be doing but when I hear what one has been doing I know whether it’s what they should be at. They do need to spend time in the constituency talking to people as that’s how they know or at least should know how people feel about things but the dail doesn’t actually sit for that many weeks. They have long recesses and even telephones to stay in touch they could easily do a lot of this whilst in Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    salmocab wrote: »
    A job description is limiting though, I prefer a common sense approach. I would find it very difficult to put in words exactly what they should and shouldn’t be doing but when I hear what one has been doing I know whether it’s what they should be at. They do need to spend time in the constituency talking to people as that’s how they know or at least should know how people feel about things but the dail doesn’t actually sit for that many weeks. They have long recesses and even telephones to stay in touch they could easily do a lot of this whilst in Dublin.

    Today's court case is on Clare Byrne on rte 1 now


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 iwilldare


    That chip van is getting great exposure.
    No doubt with have a special this weekend - 'Battered Healy-Rae and Chips'


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    iwilldare wrote: »
    That chip van is getting great exposure.
    No doubt with have a special this weekend - 'Battered Healy-Rae and Chips'

    Surely though if it was his chip van he could have just went in the back, no need to queue?

    Go home yank, this is my chip van

    I remember your grandfather auld Jackie Healy Rae and he in the back cutting the chips, trying to save the spuds and he dropped dead and I asked my father will we stop and he said no Jackie junior we’ll keep cutting the chips


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  • Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    'This is MY town and MY chip van!'

    God, he isn't a c**t by any chance is he?

    I'm glad that 'the dumb English tourist' they thought they were teaching a lesson to not only pursued the case to conclusion but also has roots in the locality as well which should make them feel more awkward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    dd973 wrote: »
    'This is MY town and MY chip van!'

    God, he isn't a c**t by any chance is he?

    I'm glad that 'the dumb English tourist' they thought they were teaching a lesson to not only pursued the case to conclusion but also has roots in the locality as well which should make them feel more awkward.

    His mother was a local but she lost her chip van during the famine


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    dd973 wrote: »
    'This is MY town and MY chip van!'

    God, he isn't a c**t by any chance is he?

    I'm glad that 'the dumb English tourist' they thought they were teaching a lesson to not only pursued the case to conclusion but also has roots in the locality as well which should make them feel more awkward.

    What is funny is it’s everyone else’s fault... the country don’t like his family, the man was at top or queue, it was self defense... it’s all about them v us... no sense of responsibility for their own actions... also the fact they did not step into witness box kinda says it all... and if there was a council election in the morning what odds he would still top the poll...


  • Registered Users Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44


    By the looks of that gombeen Jackie the chip van is the last place he needs to be going near!

    Love to see a bully get what's coming to him, a nice stay at the government's pleasure (not the sort his family are used to) will do the country and his waistline no harm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    rosser44 wrote: »
    By the looks of that gombeen Jackie the chip van is the last place he needs to be going near!

    Love to see a bully get what's coming to him, a nice stay at the government's pleasure (not the sort his family are used to) will do the country and his waistline no harm

    They are already trying to turn it into a PR win claiming its people from around the country that hate their family that have done this. The even have attacked the handling by the Guards.

    Hopefully they actually get some time and it tarnishes their public image but I would say it will be a suspended sentence and more likely they will get back to being goodboys or this is a start to a trainwreck.


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