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Westworld (HBO/Sky Atlantic) [** Spoilers **]

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    #2102
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Can’t wait, best show on TV.


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    #2103
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Looks good, but like a totally different show. I'm not sure if this will mean better or worse


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    #2104
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It could do with some humanity though, so moving into the real world could be a good idea: among Westworld's faults, it doesn't actually have any human characters worth a damn. The Man in Black was an enigma with vague existential motivations but zero relatable, tangible motivation. The show could do with at least putting forward a few humans who aren't complete ciphers or just plain rotten.


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    #2105
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They absolutely lost the run of themselves in Season 2, made it as uncohesive as possible to throw people off the story twists rather than letting the characters stories play out. They got too clever with it and ruined the entire flow of the season imo. It was still mostly great, with some great scenes and performances, and I'm thinking of rewatching season 1 and 2 in the near future and hopefully season 2 will be better on a rewatch knowing more of what's happening. But my main hope for Season 3 is that even if they bring it in a whole new direction, they don't try so hard to hide pretty standard twists by wrapping them up in tricks to throw everyone off the scent.


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    #2106
    EoinMcLovin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,929 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    https://twitter.com/westworldhbo/status/1152675396695072769?s=21[\url]


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    #2107
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    On the Brazil HBO youtube channel early! :)

    San Diego Comic Con Trailer:


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    #2108
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Phew! What a trailer!


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    #2109
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,428 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    That looks impressive.


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    #2110
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Official HBO channel now:


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    #2111
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    :D
    https://twitter.com/joblocom/status/1152683600506048512


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    #2112
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I don't need to watch that trailer, the thumbnail has confirmed for me that Maeve is ok. Phew! Literally the only character in this withholdingly waffling show I ever gave a damn about.


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    #2113
    kerplun k
    Registered Users Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Man, between this and watchmen, HBO have some epic stuff on the way.


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    #2114
    Enzokk
    Registered Users Posts: 5,602 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    I don't like the wait between seasons, but at least with this you had to wait a couple of years as well between season 1 and 2 as well. So this is not something new, with GoT it seemed to me the break made things worse as it allowed the hype to build and expectations to boil over.

    I can understand the reasons if the difficult production is one of them. So they would have to design a future world and WW2 as well. That would take some work to get it right and at least we know the production will be top notch, even when the writing falls down.


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    #2115
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Hrrmm... re-watching that trailer..

    Has Dolores figured out a way of implanting those black ai-mind pearl balls into people?
    Could it be that she has put the mind of Teddy into Charlotte Hale (Tessa Thompson)?

    Big Tech Robots in the trailer...

    This season could well be the Rise of the Machines.


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    #2116
    Acosta
    Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭Acosta


    It's a bit hit and miss but I'll stick with it. Trailer looks good.


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    #2117
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,428 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    They just announced it will be an 8 episode season.


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    #2118
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    They just announced it will be an 8 episode season.

    :eek: Only 8?

    Mankind is doomed!


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    #2119
    Mr E
    Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Good. Season 2 dragged.


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    #2120
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hopefully the narrative beds down into something more coherent and less intentionally withholding and convoluted. Am hopeful that being set in the real world, the temptation to fill the season with abstract waffling will be lesser.


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    #2121
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Hopefully the narrative beds down into something more coherent and less intentionally withholding and convoluted. Am hopeful that being set in the real world, the temptation to fill the season with abstract waffling will be lesser.

    I think they've already said this season will be less of a mystery kind of thing, compared to last season where they went to extreme lengths to make things as confusing as possible to hide fairly bog standard plot twists.

    That, plus 8 episodes makes me hopeful for this season. Westworld could be a great show and season 1 was so goddamn good, but season 2 despite its high points was largely an over-indulgent mess.


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    #2122
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I think he (The Critical Drinker) nailed it, great first series, second series, far too confusing timelines, irrelevant side plot into non West World parts of the park , topped of with Mary Sue robots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz-jPtLst1A

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    #2123
    Slydice
    Registered Users Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Some kind of campaign video for season 3


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    #2124
    Blazer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,421 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I think Season 3 for me will be wait for it all to be released and then watch it all together.


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    #2125
    [Deleted User]
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    silverharp wrote: »
    I think he (The Critical Drinker) nailed it, great first series, second series, far too confusing timelines, irrelevant side plot into non West World parts of the park , topped of with Mary Sue robots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz-jPtLst1A

    I'll watch this in a minute, but something I realized when starting a re-watch of season 1 was, it's revelaed that Man in Black has been going to the park for years not just as a guest but as part of its management team, so the idea that he was on some big quest to find the secret of the maze in season one either made no sense or showed him up as being a really pathetic character.

    Its like the CEO of Blizzard (makers of World of Warcraft) spending his vacation time playing World of Warcraft. Dude, get a life!


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    #2126
    ManOfMystery
    Registered Users Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'll watch this in a minute, but something I realized when starting a re-watch of season 1 was, it's revelaed that Man in Black has been going to the park for years not just as a guest but as part of its management team, so the idea that he was on some big quest to find the secret of the maze in season one either made no sense or showed him up as being a really pathetic character.

    Its like the CEO of Blizzard (makers of World of Warcraft) spending his vacation time playing World of Warcraft. Dude, get a life!

    What I took from that was that his initial experience in the park (in young William guise) was what caused his change into the more ruthless - and perhaps downright bad - 'Man in Black'. So he kept returning to the park as it was the only place he could be himself and carry out whatever heinous acts he wanted to that he couldn't in real life. I think his being part of the management team was only a means to an end for him.

    To use your analogy, it would be more like the CEO of Blizzard being obsessed with WOW prior to owning it, then buying the company so he could obsess over it even more and mould it as he saw fit. Definitely someone who needs to get a life, but the obsessive and relentless nature is what makes him interesting as a character.


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    #2127
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,357 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    ManOfMystery wrote: »
    What I took from that was that his initial experience in the park (in young William guise) was what caused his change into the more ruthless - and perhaps downright bad - 'Man in Black'. So he kept returning to the park as it was the only place he could be himself and carry out whatever heinous acts he wanted to that he couldn't in real life. I think his being part of the management team was only a means to an end for him.

    To use your analogy, it would be more like the CEO of Blizzard being obsessed with WOW prior to owning it, then buying the company so he could obsess over it even more and mould it as he saw fit. Definitely someone who needs to get a life, but the obsessive and relentless nature is what makes him interesting as a character.

    Agreed. Plus he came to discover that Arnold had hidden some kind of mystery within the park, and he became obsessed with trying to find it. It's just that it wasn't a mystery for him, but rather intended for the hosts, to lead them to discover consciousness. In many ways though it was just a way for him to continue entering the park and living what had really become his true self.


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    #2128
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 45,552 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    The Syfy channel is showing season 1 starting Monday, 6th January, with a double-bill from 9pm.


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    #2129
    Mr E
    Registered Users Posts: 55,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Coming back on March 15th.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeEn609nkRs


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    #2130
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 85,592 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Sky Atlantic on Monday, 16th of March
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #2131
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Final(?) trailer popped up; don't want to get too hyped, but this trailer makes it look like all that labyrinthine, withholding bullsh*t might finally be gone. Might actually have a "proper" story and pacing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDJbFA32_QY


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