Rowan Croft the gran torino

friendlyfun · 08-10-2019 12:00pm

I read some reviews on his construction company. Turns out he's a big cowboy builder.

super_furry · 08-10-2019 12:03pm

Jaysus people are steal talking about oul Black and Tan Torino? He's a Queen loving clown.

lleti · 08-10-2019 12:14pm

I'm not really one for conspiracy theories but the point about filling us up with migrants is plausible.

For years now there's been talk about our aging population and the ticking time bomb of pensions. How can governments combat this? Bring in a load of young migrants.

It's very possible and even probably they plan on doing this.

I can't find the video but there was a guy in what looked like the public accounts committee talking about this saying we're going to need the migrants youthfulness to prop up the pensions.

When you think they're likely to put this above the priorities of homeless or poor people you can almost understand why the likes of GOD take off.

Harvey Weinstein · 08-10-2019 12:40pm

lleti wrote: »

I'm not really one for conspiracy theories but the point about filling us up with migrants is plausible.

For years now there's been talk about our aging population and the ticking time bomb of pensions. How can governments combat this? Bring in a load of young migrants.

It's very possible and even probably they plan on doing this.

I can't find the video but there was a guy in what looked like the public accounts committee talking about this saying we're going to need the migrants youthfulness to prop up the pensions.

When you think they're likely to put this above the priorities of homeless or poor people you can almost understand why the likes of GOD take off.

We also need migrants in order to keep wages down according to the central bank. Did you ever imagine the day when the socialist left would be on the same side as the banks in advocating policies to suppress workers wages?

JohnnyFlash · 08-10-2019 12:41pm

The dude seems very angry all the time. What’s that about? Lot of anger in the world these days. Not cool.

ancapailldorcha · 08-10-2019 12:50pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

We also need migrants in order to keep wages down according to the central bank. Did you ever imagine the day when the socialist left would be on the same side as the banks in advocating policies to suppress workers wages?

Do you have a link? I've no idea where this pic is from.

weldoninhio · 08-10-2019 12:51pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Do you have a link? I've no idea where this pic is from.

From the banner it looks like the Irish Indo Business pages.

Tis: https://www.independent.ie/business/jobs/not-enough-migrants-arriving-to-keep-pay-down-central-bank-38356212.html

Harvey Weinstein · 08-10-2019 12:53pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Do you have a link? I've no idea where this pic is from.

https://www.independent.ie/business/jobs/not-enough-migrants-arriving-to-keep-pay-down-central-bank-38356212.html

ancapailldorcha · 08-10-2019 12:56pm

Harvey Weinstein wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/business/jobs/not-enough-migrants-arriving-to-keep-pay-down-central-bank-38356212.html

Thanks but it's behind a paywall.

Uncle Charlie · 08-10-2019 12:58pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Thanks but it's behind a paywall.

The point of the article is that Mass Immigration drives down wages.

The elite tried to deny this for years.

But now even central bank admits its true.

LostinBlanch · 08-10-2019 1:01pm

From the article

THE number of people willing to move here to work is not going to hit levels seen during the last boom and will not keep wages down, economists at the Central Bank are forecasting.

The Department of Finance expects that another 50,000 jobs will be added this year, barring a hard Brexit, and predicts average wages will rise 3pc in 2019, 3.2pc in 2020 and 3.3pc the following year.

While that message spells bad news for employers trying to address shortages in key areas, it is good news for those in work, as it implies that wages will continue to rise.

With a record 2.32 million people now in work and recent data showing that just 110,000 are classified as unemployed, pay has started to rise.

Wage gains averaged 2.8pc in 2018, up from just 0.8pc in 2017, according to Central Bank economists Stephen Byrne and Tara McIndoe-Calder. . . .

Rising job opportunities and wages in eastern Europe mean migrants are less tempted to come to Ireland, unless the pay gap is very big. "As such, attracting migrants may only occur at higher wage differentials, going forward, than seen in the 2004-07 period that coincided with the EU accession countries joining the pool of available EU migrants at relatively low wages," Mr Byrne and Ms McIndoe-Calder wrote.

"This implies that the wage-dampening effect of net inward migration may be subdued when compared to the pre-crisis period," they said.

Boo f***king hoo

There is also a risk that a rise in the number of workers coming here could put further pressure on infrastructure, especially in housing, which is in short supply in booming parts of the country.

You don't say? :rolleyes:

Brendan Bendar · 08-10-2019 1:15pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The dude seems very angry all the time. What’s that about? Lot of anger in the world these days. Not cool.

Very simple John, the ordinary dude, like yourself and mesell,if I can take that liberty,usually dont make too much waves, we just get on with things contribute to our country and add value by our expertise.

Getting banned from Boards.ie would probably be one of the few times we might step out of line(speaking hypothetically of course)

Torino is what I call a ‘Professional Angry’ a guy who wants to gain a ‘foothold’ as a,what does he call it, a ‘citizen journalist’ I think.

Now not saying he or they don’t have some merit in calling out the stults and chancers who are indeed about, but one does need to take Torino and his many ‘fellow travelers’ with a large grain of salt .

Getting a ‘name’ or a ‘profile’ for themselves is usually the most pressing agenda,John.

John, I know from your many posts on important and pressing topics that you are serious and concerned citizen and would urge you to take these ‘Professional Angries’ and there are many of them, with a degree of sceptisism,and not promote them into the front ranks of decision makers and heavyweights who have their hands on any of the levers of power.

They are basically tools who have used and manipulated the platforms available to them, but to elevate them into any hierarchy of responsibility and credulity would ,in my opinion, be a mistake.

Hope that settles you down John, and provides a little primer as to the real agenda behind these people.

Bobblehats · 08-10-2019 1:16pm

lleti wrote: »

I'm not really one for conspiracy theories but the point about filling us up with migrants is plausible.

For years now there's been talk about our aging population and the ticking time bomb of pensions. How can governments combat this? Bring in a load of young migrants.

It's very possible and even probably they plan on doing this.

I can't find the video but there was a guy in what looked like the public accounts committee talking about this saying we're going to need the migrants youthfulness to prop up the pensions.

When you think they're likely to put this above the priorities of homeless or poor people you can almost understand why the likes of GOD take off.

I couldn’t find it myself there. It seems Orlared has been banned for serving as effectively a one stop shop that documented pretty much everything pertaining to immigration here. And that’s all Orla did but I suppose the sheer amount of content was all too revealing. Forget about G o’ D or Rowan this is the biggest ‘silencing’ we’ll see

Nobody else was archiving all the actual video documentation out there so that’s huge and that’s all she did but they’re all being silenced now; one by one and I suspect GT will be next anyway I did find a shorter version Micheal Racebender one from a few years back now that you mentioned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLWkd40gq4

I find it hard to believe people haven’t realised these things after all these years I’d have thought you’d have to be sticking your head in the sand and choosing to remain blissfully ignorant so that it “doesn’t affect you”

~ anyhow if anyone asks for ”sources?” From here on in well we’re going to be stuck now. Thanks for everything Orlared

Brendan Bendar · 08-10-2019 1:21pm

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

The point of the article is that Mass Immigration drives down wages.

The elite tried to deny this for years.

But now even central bank admits its true.

Sure it does, the brickies earning 3k a week at the height of the boom would back you up on that:cool:

Luckily for the ordinary householder that cartel was busted, dude.

Annasopra · 08-10-2019 6:03pm

super_furry wrote: »

Jaysus people are steal talking about oul Black and Tan Torino? He's a Queen loving clown.

Ah basically him and some of his supporters didn't like him not being talked about.

Bobblehats · 08-10-2019 6:11pm

I wish I had a granny like that

skimpydoo · 08-10-2019 7:57pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Thanks but it's behind a paywall.

It's not a paywall, you have to register for free to view it.

Birneybau · 30-10-2019 1:58pm

He's being called out here and rightly so, sh!tehawk

https://www.thejournal.ie/carrickmacross-direct-provision-4854854-Oct2019/

Known anti-immigration activists travelled to Oughterard – which has a population of 1,300 people – and attempted to steer local debate around the proposed Direct Provision centre.

A contentious meeting on 11 September was filmed by Gearóid Murphy, whose YouTube channel features videos entitled ‘Becoming a Minority in Ireland – Fact or Fiction?’ and ‘The Frightening Growth of Vile Anti-Irish Racism’. The meeting was addressed by Gerry Kinneavy, an organiser for the National Party led by Justin Barrett, who has made a number of false claims about Ireland’s immigration figures in the past.

Rowan Croft, a self-styled ‘citizen journalist’ and ex-British soldier known as Grand Torino who recently gifted his rosary beads to Italian far-right leader Matteo Salvini, posted online saying the tender withdrawal was “a victory for Ireland”.

recedite · 31-10-2019 1:27pm

Birneybau wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/carrickmacross-direct-provision-4854854-Oct2019/

That's a long and detailed article. Some interesting quotes there from the owners of the Treacy's Hotel group.

Meanwhile, John Treacy – Director of Timber Toes Ltd which owns three hotels in the Treacy Group – told The Northern Standard newspaper on 10 October: “We’re definitely not going Direct Provision. There is no signed legal document,” he said. It is, however, being used for emergency accommodation.
Treacy said that “twenty-odd rooms” are in use for emergency accommodation for asylum seekers in Carrickmacross, with two to three people in each room.

How is that not direct provision?
It seems to me that providing Direct Provision at "emergency accommodation" room rates is more lucrative than providing the exact same service on a longer term fixed contract. But its still DP.

He added that potential customers will be made aware that Treacy’s provides emergency accommodation to asylum seekers, that the hotel’s bar is reserved for paying customers only and that there will be a separate area for asylum seekers.

Is that even legal? It seems like apartheid. Normally anyone can walk in off the street and order a drink or some food at a hotel bar.

ohnonotgmail · 31-10-2019 1:28pm

recedite wrote: »

That's a long and detailed article. Some interesting quotes there from the owners of the Treacy's Hotel group.

How is that not "direct provision"?
It seems to me that providing Direct Provision at "emergency accommodation" room rates is more lucrative than providing the exact same service on a longer term fixed contract. But its still DP.

Is that even legal? It seems like apartheid. Normally anyone can walk in off the street and order a drink or some food in a hotel bar.

I'm sure any asylum seekers reading that will be touched by your concern for them.

recedite · 31-10-2019 1:38pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm sure any asylum seekers reading that will be touched by your concern for them.

Are you not concerned about them?
Or is it just "cram as many in as possible". The more we can cram in to these small towns, the quicker we can upgrade them from being monocultural to being multicultural.

ohnonotgmail · 31-10-2019 1:48pm

recedite wrote: »

Are you not concerned about them?
Or is it just "cram as many in as possible". The more we can cram in to these small towns, the quicker we can upgrade them from being monocultural to being multicultural.

you need to recalibrate your sarcasm meter.

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 2:09am

Birneybau wrote: »

He's being called out here and rightly so, sh!tehawk

https://www.thejournal.ie/carrickmacross-direct-provision-4854854-Oct2019/

Say what you want about those people but at least they are proper journalists who are letting us know what is going on on the ground unlike rte and rest of the fake news media.

circadian · 05-11-2019 9:40am

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Say what you want about those people but at least they are proper journalists who are letting us know what is going on on the ground unlike rte and rest of the fake news media.

Who? Gran Torino, Gemma and the likes?

Try the other one mate.

ollkiller · 05-11-2019 11:12am

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

Say what you want about those people but at least they are proper journalists who are letting us know what is going on on the ground unlike rte and rest of the fake news media.

Proper journalists. Jesus i needed a laugh this morning. Fair play for providing it.

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 2:08pm

ollkiller wrote: »

Proper journalists. Jesus i needed a laugh this morning. Fair play for providing it.

Gearoid Murphy etc without those people we wouldn't know when a direct provision centre is about to open.

Also RTE and the fake news media never mention the fact that most asylum seekers are bogus.

Why should we even entertain bogus asylum seekers coming from safe countries like Georgia and Albania ?

circadian · 05-11-2019 2:52pm

Got any evidence that they're bogus or that they're safe in their own countires? Seems like a sweeping generalisation to me.

Uncle Charlie · 05-11-2019 2:58pm

circadian wrote: »

Got any evidence that they're bogus or that they're safe in their own countires? Seems like a sweeping generalisation to me.

From the horses mouth.

Seán Deegan who worked in the asylum system said that out of 500 cases he dealt with 498 were bogus.

Ireland is being taking for a ride.

recedite · 06-11-2019 10:13am

Even George the Georgian Ambassador agrees that they are complete chancers in seeking asylum here.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ambassador-says-that-georgia-has-eu-status-of-safe-country-38657821.html

Hector Savage · 06-11-2019 11:34am

Uncle Charlie wrote: »

From the horses mouth.

Seán Deegan who worked in the asylum system said that out of 500 cases he dealt with 498 were bogus.

Ireland is being taking for a ride.

Duffy is pathetic here, just trying to argue and argue with nothing to back it.

Also Joe is being an Islamaphobic bigot at 20m .... :P

Rowan Croft the gran torino

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