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Quinn Director abducted and assaulted

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Whatever about the inaction up until now the Gardai seem to know well who is responsible for this and they have one of them on CCTV. They also have the horse box he was tortured in so its highly likely the perps left DNA behind them there. Problem now though is the culprits are not going to be the right side of the border for arrests. This will suit the person who was paying them down to the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    heldel00 wrote: »
    The world and his wife know the culprits. They'll be got and there'll be a real clanger for the media in it too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Odhinn wrote: »
    There's been attacks against property and various threats made since the Quinn family were removed.

    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    https://www.thecurrency.news/articles/757/leveraging-full-surrender-the-real-story-of-why-the-quinn-family-dropped-their-epic-legal-battle

    This is very good on the money trial and how high up Kevin Lunney was !

    He never learned in that looks like he was offered a deal that would have given him back control and gambled again and lost !

    But still looks like heaps of money somewhere


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

    This is not fair on a number of levels.

    Number 1 being you're calling Sean Quinn a dope. A dope wouldn't have built such a huge multi billionaire multi national business empire like Quinn did.

    Number 2 is that it's absolutely nothing to do with Quinn not being a Dub and 100% to do with what he was doing, the debts he'd run up, and the state of the business at the time.

    Number 3 is nobody miss sold Anglo to him, he bought all those shares on his own back. Anglo didn't even know until it was far too late that he'd bought them or even how much he'd bought.

    Number 4 is I don't condone but.....:rolleyes:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

    Sean is no innocent, he was playing big boy games and wasnt some small amateur.

    He could be fairly sharp in his own practices too if the shoe had been on the other foot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.



    If only there was some way that poor Sean could have got independent advice to understand the risks he was taking on?

    Have a read of that Currency article to see how risk assessment wasn't part of his language.

    Mis sold? This wasn't a case of payment protection insurance. This was a billion euro gamble to take control of the bank, because being multi millionaires just wasn't enough and he had to over reach as he strived to make them all billionaires.

    It was greed - plain and simple.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    Why isn’t this Sean Quinn fella investigated?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,545 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    If only there was some way that poor Sean could have got independent advice to understand the risks he was taking on?

    Have a read of that Currency article to see how risk assessment wasn't part of his language.

    Mis sold? This wasn't a case of payment protection insurance. This was a billion euro gamble to take control of the bank, because being multi millionaires just wasn't enough and he had to over reach as he strived to make them all billionaires.

    It was greed - plain and simple.
    Good article, got nearly through it before the pay wall went up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Still not over intimidation again in the papers , silage bales slashed brother of Kevin Lunney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Still not over intimidation again in the papers , silage bales slashed brother of Kevin Lunney

    Yeah saw that in the papers yesterday, its pretty brazen of them given the extra Garda/PSNI attention going on in Cavan & Fermanagh right now. There has still been no arrests, would imagine the culprits have gone somewhere to lie low.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    Listened to an interview Sean Quinn gave to Shannonside Radio. For some reason I can't quite put my finger on, I don't believe him when he says his family had nothing to do with the attack on Kevin Lunney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Heard that interview myself and he kept referring to Kevin Lunney as "that man" despite the fact Lunney worked directly for Quinn for the guts of 15 years. Its been mentioned he was like a son to him. Its obvious Quinn feels betrayed by Lunney with the take over of the company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Interview with Kevin's brother on RTE One tonight @ 9.35pm

    https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2019/1021/1084802-kevin-lunney-brother-interview/

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    anyone watch primetime tonight what sort of savages live in those areas??

    was S Q propped up by the provo's for all those years?? and now they don't like the change of guard...is that what it all boils down to??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭older i get better i was


    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

    Sure it's the big bad dubs fault again! and there no culchies working in banks or accountancy firms in the schmoke, because they wouldn't do that type of thing if there was....

    SQ got greedy and thought I'm gonna buy me a bank, instead he got fkd over well and truly by seany and the other snake that ran to the states, it now appears his friends maybe trying to terrorise the new owners of q group who bought it fair Nd square.... disgusting behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

    If he was ****ed over by anybody it was by Sean Fitzpatrick who is not a jackeen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,575 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    If he was ****ed over by anybody it was by Sean Fitzpatrick who is not a jackeen.

    LOL it was the other way round. He tried to **** Seanie Fitz over but ended up ****ing himself and, arguably, the entire country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    LOL it was the other way round. He tried to **** Seanie Fitz over but ended up ****ing himself and, arguably, the entire country.

    well they probably thought they were ****ing over each other. either way there were no jackeens involved.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I would not condone those attacks but I can understand why they happened. Sean Quinn is not a Dub. The vulture jackeens moved against him after they mis sold Anglo as a AAA+ investment.

    Any stock can tank, General Electric was one of the largest companies in the world twenty years ago, it's dropped more than 75% in value, it was as "blue chip" as they come but SQ didn't just go all in on one stock, he bought CFD,s which are extremely high risk financial instruments

    His wrecklessness was off the charts and completely his own doing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Gardai saying now that they have been met with a wall of silence when investigating the kidnapping up in the Cavan area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Gardai saying now that they have been met with a wall of silence when investigating the kidnapping up in the Cavan area

    And what are the guards doing about the guy they have on CCTV buying the bleach?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,129 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    fryup wrote: »
    anyone watch primetime tonight what sort of savages live in those areas??

    was S Q propped up by the provo's for all those years?? and now they don't like the change of guard...is that what it all boils down to??

    No.

    It boils down to who owns the business.

    For 5 years there have been over 70 incidents from arson, trying to blow up the hq with a lorry tanker of kerosene, death threats assaults etc.

    The Garda response has been low key in response to very serious incidents.

    Provies, me hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,129 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    And what are the guards doing about the guy they have on CCTV buying the bleach?

    Just imagine the difference if this happened to a director of say, Roadstone.

    None of this humming and hawing and blind eye bolloxology.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Danzy wrote: »
    Just imagine the difference if this happened to a director of say, Roadstone.

    None of this humming and hawing and blind eye bolloxology.

    If it were an American company there'd be a top level investigation with Leo involved.


  • Site Banned Posts: 3 The Border Poll Maestro


    Kevin Lunney has been attacked again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 872 ✭✭✭martyoo


    Kevin Lunney has been attacked again!


    ffs. What did you hear? Is he not still in hospital?


  • Site Banned Posts: 3 The Border Poll Maestro


    martyoo wrote: »
    ffs. What did you hear? Is he not still in hospital?

    On Drivetime they said breaking news Gardaí are investigating an attack on the Quinn director Kevin Lunney who was attacked last month more as we get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 872 ✭✭✭martyoo


    I think it's about the van that was used in the attack.

    Link


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Only thing I've heard is they found the van used in Co. Meath earlier.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually, the Armed Response unit and helicopter were up over Drogheda earlier at lunch time. I figured it was related to the on going gang problems here but maybe connected to this ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 872 ✭✭✭martyoo


    Actually, the Armed Response unit and helicopter were up over Drogheda earlier at lunch time. I figured it was related to the on going gang problems here but maybe connected to this ?

    Quite possibly as it's not far from where they found the van.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    And what are the guards doing about the guy they have on CCTV buying the bleach?
    What can they do? Buying bleach isn't an offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    What can they do? Buying bleach isn't an offence.

    They might be able to tie DNA from the scene or the recovered van to him.

    At the very least they could haul him in & try to rattle him.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭1641


    I thought it would die down for a while. Instead it escalates:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2019/1029/1087326-quinn-industrial-holdings/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    1641 wrote: »
    I thought it would die down for a while. Instead it escalates:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/crime/2019/1029/1087326-quinn-industrial-holdings/
    still not clear what they want think they are only abusing Quinn name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭Odelay


    These ****ers only want money for themselves, and they are prepared to kill for it. It’s that simple.
    They haven’t got the skill or brains to fund the lifestyle they want so they will murder someone to get it.
    Stupid cowards is all they are. Hiding behind letters they won’t put their name to and silly posters, getting others to do their dirty work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    It was a land issue coupled with a give the company back to Quinn thing. Madness. The Garda should be on this. They look to be letting it fester. The council workers fearful to take down signs is ridiculous. Get in neighboring workers, have Garda/Army do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,849 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Best thing now would be for Quinn to sell up and eff off to Florida or somewhere and forget the whole thing.

    But he won’t, will he ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭1641


    Odelay wrote: »
    These ****ers only want money for themselves, and they are prepared to kill for it. It’s that simple.
    They haven’t got the skill or brains to fund the lifestyle they want so they will murder someone to get it.
    Stupid cowards is all they are. Hiding behind letters they won’t put their name to and silly posters, getting others to do their dirty work.

    I don't think so. They haven't made any extortion demands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭1641


    It was a land issue coupled with a give the company back to Quinn thing. Madness. The Garda should be on this. They look to be letting it fester. The council workers fearful to take down signs is ridiculous. Get in neighboring workers, have Garda/Army do it.

    It would probably have to be Garda/Army. An outside specialist company declined.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    fryup wrote: »
    was S Q propped up by the provo's for all those years?? and now they don't like the change of guard...is that what it all boils down to??

    That's kinda what I thought too..


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭GolfNut33


    How are they sure this latest threat is genuine?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    GolfNut33 wrote: »
    How are they sure this latest threat is genuine?

    Would presume the ex-provos have a code word included in their letters when they write to the media, it was the Irish News that this latest threat was sent to and they then passed it onto the Gardai who are taking it seriously.

    These lads are absolutely brazen and simply have to be in the pay of someone given the lengths they are now going to and all this despite increased Garda focus and heat on them. They are now saying the directors of Quinn group are on their final warning and have alluded to killing Kevin Lunney, none of them are safe at this stage because these criminals know that if they kill even one of them then all the other directors will resign en masse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Would presume the ex-provos have a code word included in their letters when they write to the media, it was the Irish News that this latest threat was sent to and they then passed it onto the Gardai who are taking it seriously.

    These lads are absolutely brazen and simply have to be in the pay of someone given the lengths they are now going to and all this despite increased Garda focus and heat on them. They are now saying the directors of Quinn group are on their final warning and have alluded to killing Kevin Lunney, none of them are safe at this stage because these criminals know that if they kill even one of them then all the other directors will resign en masse.

    Wow, our police force are shocking, or just shockingly underfunded and underarmed, could you imagine this carry on in New York for example, they would be raiding the homes and seizing the assets of everyone involved within the week, irrespective of their criminal clout or organisation. They'd have informants, undercover operatives, NSA correspondence and phone calls and actual weapons. I wonder about the guards ability to fight organised crime.
    You can't be allowing criminal interact with non criminal business like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    fryup wrote: »
    anyone watch primetime tonight what sort of savages live in those areas??

    was S Q propped up by the provo's for all those years?? and now they don't like the change of guard...is that what it all boils down to??

    I think it’s fair to assume this is the case, if it was anybody but the provos doing this the guards would have arrested them long ago but they are obviously still in fear of the scum, they all know well who is doing this, what has this country come to where a state body, the county council are afraid to remove signage, drew Harris should be all over this, the limerick template needs to be actioned, flood the area with balavlavaed armed cops and hunt them down, the same crew are behind all the atm robberies, Sean Quinn obviously had an arrangement with them over the years and the funds which bought his business weren’t going to tolerate it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Could you sue for damages in such a case?


  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Dual wheels


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    Could you sue for damages in such a case?

    No I think they send the Brennan brothers in and they tell you how to turn your business around and then they come back in a year to see if you made a balls of it


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