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Second Captains

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    I’m still subbed to some NZ based pods and I still listen to NZ media in general. They’re so in depth with their coverage of Irish players, being very afraid of stockdale, Earls etc.

    All the Irish media is “passion” “Guile” “lets take it to them” etc.

    It’s not just SC guilty of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Arghus wrote: »
    Eoin Reddan is a dose.

    Will he be on the pod on Monday, I certainly hope so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭radharc


    They are awful for the corporate speak, but I did actually enjoy the Heaslip interview. The lads asked some interesting questions of him, rather than just blowing smoke up posterior. I've taken some good learnings from the interview.

    I thought the lads were very soft on the doping questions. Though Heaslip’s answers were laughable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    radharc wrote: »
    I thought the lads were very soft on the doping questions. Though Heaslip’s answers were laughable.

    What did you want them to ask him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Why is Heaslip on the anti doping board if he thinks he never even played against someone who was doping? Seems like a weird thing to get involved in, if you think it's a totally non issue


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 359 ✭✭NeonWolf


    Lets see what they all have to say now . I cannot ****ing wait.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 359 ✭✭NeonWolf


    radharc wrote: »
    I thought the lads were very soft on the doping questions. Though Heaslip’s answers were laughable.

    its one big cheerleader circle jerk. Golden goose and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    NeonWolf wrote: »
    its one big cheerleader circle jerk. Golden goose and all that.

    The Second Captains are in this "circle" are they? Don't think that they've got any golden eggs from... what exactly? Irish rugby's successful years? The Joe Schmidt era?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,749 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    To be fair, Shane Horgan was fairly downcast about Ireland's chances, that New Zealand fella was most optimistic about our chances, but he was probably just plámásing us.

    I know it's a noisy minority but the glee about this is a bit odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭radharc


    Raoul Duke wrote: »
    What did you want them to ask him?

    If Heaslip had said something along the lines of we need to be vigilant, it’s obviously a concern etc it’s fine to not go down the rabbit hole but when he said he feels he has never played against anybody using PEDs in his career he lost all credibility and should have been challenged.

    How about asking what he made of Alan Quinlan’s recent comments, what he thinks of Paul Kimmage’s repeated criticisms or why the hell he sits on the anti doping board of World Rugby if he feels there hasn’t been a professional player who has doped in the past decade.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Heaslip is a joke of a pundit full stop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    Raoul Duke wrote: »
    What did you want them to ask him?

    I personally thought the interview was pretty good in the circumstances, but I'd love to hear the answers Kimmage's questions about the 'false positive' re testosterone in time - https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/paul-kimmage-a-letter-the-churchill-cup-and-jamie-heaslip-the-curious-case-of-the-positive-test-38613291.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Heaslip is a joke of a pundit full stop.

    Paul Kimmage is on his case after the drugs incident from his book, which he mentioned on the pod. Peculiar that he hasn't responded to his questions in order to clarify what happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    radharc wrote: »
    I thought the lads were very soft on the doping questions. Though Heaslip’s answers were laughable.

    Is it me or is it because Simon is clearly passionate about rugby, those guests get a free pass?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    tomwaits48 wrote: »
    Is it me or is it because Simon is clearly passionate about rugby, those guests get a free pass?

    It can be frustrating, but the reality is that if they do a Paxman on guests, guests will stop turning up. They're not the BBC. Even RTE have been subjected to media bans, official and tacit, by different county GAA setups down the years. The IRFU have become very controlling on messaging and media access in recent years. Irish sports personalities and slebs in general are pretty thin skinned.

    The best the lads can do, I expect, is conduct an interview in such away that the interviewee says enough that an attentive listener might prick up their ears off their own bat. It shouldn't be like that, but such is the way of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    corwill wrote: »
    It can be frustrating, but the reality is that if they do a Paxman on guests, guests will stop turning up. They're not the BBC. Even RTE have been subjected to media bans, official and tacit, by different county GAA setups down the years. The IRFU have become very controlling on messaging and media access in recent years. Irish sports personalities and slebs in general are pretty thin skinned.

    The best the lads can do, I expect, is conduct an interview in such away that the interviewee says enough that an attentive listener might prick up their ears off their own bat. It shouldn't be like that, but such is the way of the world.

    Yeah fair enough, Shane Horgan is Marks brother as well isn't he. Hard to bite the hand that feeds etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    No Eoin McDevitt today. :( Shame, on one of the most newsworthy weekends of sport all year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    dulux99 wrote: »
    No Eoin McDevitt today. :( Shame, on one of the most newsworthy weekends of sport all year

    He’ll be on the rugby pod


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Dots1982 wrote: »
    He’ll be on the rugby pod

    Ah. Good news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Seriously, I'd love to know in absolute numbers how many people actually listened to all of that GAA chat today.

    The conversation was so boring that it nearly became interesting.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,749 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I found it way more interesting than most English journalists going on about Man City/Tottenham or whatever, but then I don't really care about the Premier League.

    F*cking Pbeseo

    *sigh*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'll agree with you there, Pbeso absolutely suck.

    Murph was very Murphish today while reading it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Isn’t the GAA season over ??? Why are they still talking about it ? Especially during champions league week and a rugby World Cup !!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭elefant


    I was delighted to get a GAA slot instead of yet another discussion on the rugby world cup and Ireland's 'one off runners', which feels like it has been going on for months now.

    I like rugby, and I'm still completely weary of it at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    elefant wrote: »
    I was delighted to get a GAA slot instead of yet another discussion on the rugby world cup and Ireland's 'one off runners', which feels like it has been going on for months now.

    I like rugby, and I'm still completely weary of it at this stage.

    Is it not One Out runners?
    Either way, I agree. So much nonsense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,904 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Has anyone worked out yet what Eoin Reddan was going on about the other day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Has anyone worked out yet what Eoin Reddan was going on about the other day?

    I don't think he knows himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Has anyone worked out yet what Eoin Reddan was going on about the other day?

    He's such a drone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    Has anyone worked out yet what Eoin Reddan was going on about the other day?

    The amount of times he back peddled was remarkable. Had to laugh at his opening statement that the blame shouldn't sit with players or manager (paraphrasing), that it was a wider issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Isn’t the GAA season over ??? Why are they still talking about it ?

    If this is a genuine question, they have introduced a tier 2 football championship, along with a number of fairly big rule changes.


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