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13-09-2019 10:01am

richie is something very different to most ex professionals and a huge asset to the pod. if you want someone with definite, huge, strong and immediate opinions there's always robbie savage or chris sutton, we've all got options

i also think kens value isnt in always being right, its the audacity of the effort. so when he goes big and gets it wrong you have to take that as the price

vive le difference

RedRochey · 13-09-2019 10:13am

TwistFace wrote: »

I think yesterday's episode was pretty poor. I find Richie hard to listen to. I think he doesn't really have his own opinions on things. He's improved a bit on this but his long term strategy is to answer a question with a question. Ken - 'Richie, what do you think of our wingers positioning?' Richie's response to this is 'well what are we saying Ken, are they too wide or too narrow?'. And then he'll work off Ken's response. This just drives me mad!
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I noticed this so much after you mentioned it, every hard question he gets he tries to break it down into small pieces and then answers with a question, can be annoying at times.

Overall I still like him, you can see that the lads get on with him well.

tomwaits48 · 13-09-2019 1:27pm

Ken letting his Liverpool fan mask slip in this Owen interview

TwistFace · 13-09-2019 1:33pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Interesting that you criticize Richie for not having an opinion, but you then proceed to use someone else's opinion to challenge Ken's opinion. An interesting angle to say the least.

Bit harsh on me but whatever! I did actually give me own opinion on Byrne at the end! Which is in fact the piece I was referring to when criticizing Richie. But hey everyone's entitled to give their own opinion! :pac:

dulux99 · 13-09-2019 3:27pm

tomwaits48 wrote: »

Ken letting his Liverpool fan mask slip in this Owen interview

I don't know why he bothers with the mask in the first place. Granted he is supposed to be impartial but his fiery hatred of MUFC shines through any time he speaks about them anyway

13-09-2019 3:35pm

dulux99 wrote: »

I don't know why he bothers with the mask in the first place. Granted he is supposed to be impartial but his fiery hatred of MUFC shines through any time he speaks about them anyway

to be fair, theres an awful lot of non-lfc fans that havent a lot good to say about the superentity that is MUFC- and a lot of them would even be MUFC fans themselves

dulux99 · 13-09-2019 4:27pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

to be fair, theres an awful lot of non-lfc fans that havent a lot good to say about the superentity that is MUFC- and a lot of them would even be MUFC fans themselves

Of course. He's on the extreme end of the spectrum though.

Arghus · 13-09-2019 5:06pm

dulux99 wrote: »

Of course. He's on the extreme end of the spectrum though.

No he's not. He's nowhere near the extreme end of the spectrum.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 13-09-2019 5:10pm

the michael owen podcast was a lot better than i thought it'd be

13-09-2019 5:18pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone listen to the latest Players Chair with Paul O'Connell? Very good I though, definitely one of the better ones. Only problem was, it was too short. Only about half an hour.

I would have preferred a bit more talk about his playing career, a bit less about psychology. Or even a bit of balance between the two. I for instance was wondering when he thought his best ever performance was etc

yohan the great · 13-09-2019 5:42pm

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup wrote: »

the michael owen podcast was a lot better than i thought it'd be

Agree. Ken asked him questions about other interesting parts of it rather than just the explosive stuff that has been in the media

EltonJohn69 · 13-09-2019 9:41pm

Owens voice lacks drama.... hard to pay attention to the podcast

Beersmith · 13-09-2019 9:50pm

The best bit was when Ken recalled a moment in the match that Owen claimed was his best ever performance. The moment was Stevie G with an amazing pass. Would have been great to see Owens face when Ken said that.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 14-09-2019 12:58am

My sub finally expired and along comes an interview I actually want to hear.

Damn.

Still Ill · 14-09-2019 1:02am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

My sub finally expired and along comes an interview I actually want to hear.

Damn.

You know how to remedy that? Support independent journalism!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 14-09-2019 1:05am

Still Ill wrote: »

You know how to remedy that? Support independent journalism!

As much as I want to I’ve lost my job so things like SC, Netflix, Spotify had to go. I do miss the lads.

deisedude · 14-09-2019 9:56am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Still Ill wrote: »

You know how to remedy that? Support independent journalism!

As much as I want to I’ve lost my job so things like SC, Netflix, Spotify had to go. I do miss the lads.

Best of luck Hunky Monster. Hope you get sorted soon

thenightman · 15-09-2019 3:08pm

Mickey Owen interview was quite good. Ken & Owen both seemed to be enjoying it too. I located Owen's book on the high seas and it's a interesting enough read. He goes into specifics about money and behind the scenes goings on which most football autobiogs generally avoid.

Still Ill · 15-09-2019 9:08pm

Enjoyed the Owen interview too.. He's a lot more interesting than the image portrayed of him. He got a lot of stick for his commentary on BT, but he was pretty brutal tbf. I find he's decent enough at studio analysis though.

On the topic of contributors' pay, I saw Ewan MacKenna tweeting that he invoiced the BBC for €40 for 20 mins airtime and they wouldn't pay him, so that might be an insight as to what's the going rate.

A P · 16-09-2019 12:53pm

Hunky Monster - if you want I can email you an MP3 of the Owen interview. Fire me a PM if so

buyer95 · 17-09-2019 10:26pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Enjoyed the Owen interview too.. He's a lot more interesting than the image portrayed of him. He got a lot of stick for his commentary on BT, but he was pretty brutal tbf. I find he's decent enough at studio analysis though.

On the topic of contributors' pay, I saw Ewan MacKenna tweeting that he invoiced the BBC for €40 for 20 mins airtime and they wouldn't pay him, so that might be an insight as to what's the going rate.

Ah Ewan is a wingebag. I would be absolutely shocked if they aren't getting 100 euro at the very least for contributions.

Brock Turnpike · 17-09-2019 10:50pm

I do enjoy the disdain that Ken and Murph show for Grunge week

deisedude · 17-09-2019 10:57pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

I do enjoy the disdain that Ken and Murph show for Grunge week

Best week of the year!

Say Your Number · 17-09-2019 11:08pm

Not familiar with the song they played, even though it was more folk than grunge, I liked it

Arghus · 17-09-2019 11:37pm

deisedude wrote: »

Best week of the year!

Grunge week is great. Ken and Murph don't know what they're talking about. They probably listened to totally bland britpop shite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N49kYRC_EhQ

redbuck · 18-09-2019 8:09am

Does anyone find the sound quality of the podcasts poor at times?

When I play it in my car I find that sometimes it's very hard to hear everyone other than Eoin and Murf and Ken sound quite low or distorted.

deisedude · 18-09-2019 8:35am

Arghus wrote: »

Grunge week is great. Ken and Murph don't know what they're talking about. They probably listened to totally bland britpop shite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N49kYRC_EhQ

*Moshes office appropriate short hair wearing chinos and a shirt

The Davestator · 18-09-2019 9:25am

Ken trolling murph on the GAA pod this Monday was gas, especially his mention of the 'Kerry Ultras' on the hill!!

Hotblack Desiato · 18-09-2019 10:27am

redbuck wrote: »

Does anyone find the sound quality of the podcasts poor at times?

When I play it in my car I find that sometimes it's very hard to hear everyone other than Eoin and Murf and Ken sound quite low or distorted.

Yeah level could be a lot higher, I'm often at max volume on my phone and BT headphones, other podcasts are at least "one louder"

At least in the car you can turn it up as much as you like, stupid volume limiters.

Ken has such a low-pitched voice you might need to turn the bass up a bit

he sounded a lot worse on the little wired earphones I used to use.

Brock Turnpike · 18-09-2019 1:55pm

redbuck wrote: »

Does anyone find the sound quality of the podcasts poor at times?

When I play it in my car I find that sometimes it's very hard to hear everyone other than Eoin and Murf and Ken sound quite low or distorted.

Yes, in comparison to Totally Football Show it's a lot lower

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