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Are tall men more respected?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2. So I'd say it's rather irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2. So I'd say it's rather irrelevant.

    He wasn’t, that was just popular culture. He was average in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2.

    No he wasn't. He was loin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    BDI wrote: »
    He wasn’t, that was just popular culture. He was average in real life.

    For the peasant class yes.

    Overall he was average height for his time, but if we are talking about prominent men in history (fairly recent history) he is pretty tiny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2. So I'd say it's rather irrelevant.


    That equates to 5'6" which was taller than the average of 19th century of 5'5".
    He was also usually surrounded by his Guards unit who were basically the giants of the age.
    His nickname of 'little corporal' was an almost ironic nickname due to his success in relation to his rank at the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    harr wrote: »
    Are people in Ireland getting taller?

    It definitely feels that way. I felt awkwardly tall/skinny when I was younger but don't feel that way any more, although that might be because I'm less self-conscious about my appearance.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think shoulders have a lot to do with it. There's a bar manager where I live who is around 5'7, like myself, but he is a very very strong guy and carries it really well in his mid 50s. He has more presence than any tall guy I know who doesn't work out. I know a couple of people like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭NSAman


    I’m 6’ 1” in my socks, and am beating the women off to be honest. Some of that is down to my amazing personality and sense of humour, but height certainly helps as well. So is having a big ‘love truncheon’.

    You forgot to mention your incredible modesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    The more societal ideals you meet the more "respect" you are likely to be given as people tend to give "respect" based on what someone potentially has to offer them on one level or another

    The converse also applies of course and the less societal ideals you meet the less "respect" you are likely to be given, as you're of lesser use to people, potentially speaking.

    What we call "respect" though is really more often that not actually manipulation, panering or fear.

    Genuine respect is rare and has little or nothing to do with things which are as superficial as one's height.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Nevermind dating but in the business world/day to day life. I was reading something that said that almost all the U.S. presidents going back a long time, have been nearly 6ft tall. None was 5ft 6in (there were some but during the times of the Founding Fathers).

    I also watched Dragons Den and saw that many presenters, especially Peter Jones were very tall. The guy is ****ing 6ft 7. It sounds a bit ridiculous but I can't help but think if he wasn't that tall, he wouldn't be as successful.

    Any anecdotal truths to this? It makes sense that you'd have more respect for someone you look up to who is more intimidating.

    Maybe if famous, more likely to be disrespected if very tall if you live a regular life as you stand out, people don't like those who stand out

    I'm very tall and it's a burden most of the time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,337 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    As a man, the first thing, albeit its in my subconscious, I think is "Hes tall, he is bigger than me, he's a potential threat". Now he could be a pr!ck or a lovely fellow, but I think sizing another man up physically happens between men all the time, even if they aren't aware of it. Even if you really dislike him, you are going to have some level of respect for him if you are smaller and he is taller. That's my view anyway.

    That's not respect, that's incipient fear.
    There is a huge difference between respect and fear.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Holly Loose Carrot


    i think it impacts everyone, don't women in japan or china have leg extension surgery so they will be taken more seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.

    A tiny minority of women in Holland are six foot, same as everywhere else


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Forty Seven


    I'm 6' exactly. Can't say I've ever noticed any extra respect because of it. I'm wary of short men, many feel they have something to prove (oddly common in Glasgow) and are prone to starting trouble.

    Height is definitely a thing in online dating but having experimented by changing photo and sex on an ad and watching one get all the hits and one get none I can see why women are able to be choosy. Much better to just make approaches the old fashioned way.

    (Only if you're tall of course)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I find it’s how someone carries themselves and how they act is what garners them respect but it would be easier for a “stoic” man of 6’6” to project this.

    I’m bang on 6’, so fairly average height, and I do find a lot of “smaller” men can get their back ups about their height. In an office environment they have to be treated firmly so as to stop them “acting out”.

    It’s easier to achieve this with a “commanding” frame as opposed to a tubby 5’9” one with an unkempt beard, red face and hair that wouldn’t be out of place on a poodle.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 487 ✭✭selwyn froggitt


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.

    It's pretty obvious why the Dutch are so tall.
    Natural selection and Evolutionary pressure from living in a flood zone.
    Most of the country is below sea level,so when the floods came,only the tall survived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I don't get this height thing at all.
    I'm 5ft 10" and someone's height or lack of height doesn't bother me in the slightest. Are people really that insecure about it?
    I have friends who are 5ft2 and others who are 6ft 7 etc..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.

    I’m 6ft 3. In Ireland I was usually the tallest person in every meeting or in a lift. Very rarely met a woman taller than me.

    Since moving to the Netherlands it’s completely different. I’m rarely the tallest person in given situation and I meet women who are taller than me every day. I think it’s all the cheese and eggs they eat.

    they/them/theirs


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    Noam Chomsky



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Sorry about that


    I'm 5'9 and have dated men who were shorter than me. In theory it didn't bother me but in practice I felt it was a bad match and I felt a bit silly (and wore flat shoes). But I respected them as much as anyone.

    My guess on tall men being perceived to have more respect is that as children we literally "look up" to our Dads and in adulthood we unconsciously rate the taller man that little more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    They even wrote a song about A Tall Man In Tallaght.

    No such songs about short asses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Brian? wrote: »
    I’m 6ft 3. In Ireland I was usually the tallest person in every meeting or in a lift. Very rarely met a woman taller than me.

    Since moving to the Netherlands it’s completely different. I’m rarely the tallest person in given situation and I meet women who are taller than me every day. I think it’s all the cheese and eggs they eat.

    They grow up instead of out due to not having much room. In Ireland they wouldn’t get the planning permission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Forty Seven


    Not surprised you don't get respect because of height, you're not tall.

    Average height in the UK is 5'9" so if you can give me a more fitting word I'll be happy to use it. For now I'll stick with the common parlance as defined by a dictionary. Above average = tall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Average height in the UK is 5'9" so if you can give me a more fitting word I'll be happy to use it. For now I'll stick with the common parlance as defined by a dictionary. Above average = tall.

    That can’t be true, can it? 5’9” average height? I would have considered 6’ about average nowadays.

    I mean, 5’9”, that’s short!

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    If you're describing someone as tall you expect to see someone over 6'2. 30 years ago you were tall, today you're in the average range.

    Have to agree, you wouldn’t be calling anyone under 6’2”, maybe even 6’3”, tall.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Forty Seven


    That can’t be true, can it? 5’9” average height? I would have considered 6’ about average nowadays.

    I mean, 5’9”, that’s short!

    According to Google and Wikipedia it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Nevermind dating but in the business world/day to day life. I was reading something that said that almost all the U.S. presidents going back a long time, have been nearly 6ft tall. None was 5ft 6in (there were some but during the times of the Founding Fathers).


    The most powerful people in Europe in the last 10-20 years?

    Hollande: 5'7
    Merkel: 5'5
    Sarcozy: 5'5
    Berlusconi: 5'4
    Tusk: 5'9
    Junker: 5'7
    Cameron: 6'0
    Putin: 5'7

    Let's spread the net wider. What about the rest of the G8?

    Shinzo Abe: 5'8
    Justin Trudeau: 6'2
    Narendra Modi: 5'7
    Jair Bolsonaro: 6'0
    Xi Jinping: 5'10

    A bit more mixed, but hardly showing that height means power, right?
    I also watched Dragons Den and saw that many presenters, especially Peter Jones were very tall. The guy is ****ing 6ft 7. It sounds a bit ridiculous but I can't help but think if he wasn't that tall, he wouldn't be as successful.

    Any anecdotal truths to this? It makes sense that you'd have more respect for someone you look up to who is more intimidating

    The top paid tv presenters in the UK are
    Ant and Dec
    followed by
    Dermot O’Leary

    Who typically present programs that are owned and run by Simon Cowell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    The self reported average height in Ireland according to wikipedia is 5'10. So if you are self reporting yourself as 6' on the internet 5'10 is the average to reference. Either way, 6' is not tall in Ireland. 6'2 would be at the start of the tall range.

    Above average isn't tall? Okay. :pac:

    The global average height for men is 5'7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,991 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Men can be very strange about height, shoe size and penis size. They often have a narrative in their head to make themselves feel better. Some men actually wear shoes a size too big to feel better about their shoe size. :pac:

    I’ve heard of out halves wearing boots too small for them but that’s a “kicking” apparently.

    Wearing shoes that are too big for you must be awful, as well as ridiculous.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    I’ve heard of out halves wearing boots too small for them but that’s a “kicking” apparently.

    Wearing shoes that are too big for you must be awful, as well as ridiculous.

    Does Trump wear a glove size too big?


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