Are tall men more respected?

Forty Seven

Range Rover wrote: »

The self reported average height in Ireland according to wikipedia is 5'10. So if you are self reporting yourself as 6' on the internet 5'10 is the average to reference. Either way, 6' is not tall in Ireland. 6'2 would be at the start of the tall range.

I wonder what the average self reported penis size is?

Surely there are better figures available?

Forty Seven

RandomName2 wrote: »

Does Trump wear a glove size too big?

I think that was OJ.

Forty Seven

Range Rover wrote: »

So I'm tall at 5'10, that's nonsense. When you describe someone as tall you're referencing based on where they live, not because you're taller than a tribe in Bolivia.

Just because you're above the mean does not make you tall, there is an average range. 6' is not tall in Ireland. When you see a 6' man in Ireland you just see a normal height man.

5'11" would be tall as its above the average 5'10". You are average by your own figures or am I missing something?

Wanderer2010

Range Rover wrote: »

So I'm tall at 5'10, that's nonsense. When you describe someone as tall you're referencing based on where they live, not because you're taller than a tribe in Bolivia.

Just because you're above the mean does not make you tall, there is an average range. 6' is not tall in Ireland. When you see a 6' man in Ireland you just see a normal height man.

Where are you getting that from? I highly doubt that the average height of a man in Ireland is 6 foot. Maybe you know a lot of tall people and that is skewing your view but the 6 foot average is not based on any research is it?

JaCrispy

Forty Seven wrote: »

5'11" would be tall as its above the average 5'10". You are average by your own figures or am I missing something?

He is just interpreting the figures differently and putting his own spin on ranges. If the average male height in Ireland is 5' 10" then anybody exceeding it would be classed as "above average"...if people class "above average" as "tall" then it's down to their own interpretation.


Lexical semantics.

EmmetSpiceland

Range Rover wrote: »

I never said 6' was average height. I said it's a normal height to see, it's comfortably within 1 standard deviation of the mean.

That was me, apologies. I was under the impression that 6’ was the “average” height.

I’m still shocked that it’s 5’9”. Regardless, I still wouldn’t consider anyone under 6’2” to be “tall”.

Forty Seven

Range Rover wrote: »

I said I was tall according to your logic. Just being over average height doesn't make you tall. There is a normal bell curve distribution. If you're around 2 standard deviations above average then you're tall.

Below is from the US.


For example, adult male heights are on average 70 inches (5'10) with a standard deviation of 4 inches. Adult women are on average a bit shorter and less variable in height with a mean height of 65 inches (5'5) and standard deviation of 3.5 inches.

Even if average is 5'9, you're not even more than 1 standard deviation above average. No way is that tall.

If I'm 3 inches 'taller' than the average height then what does that make me?

Topdolla

Im 5 foot 9.5 and I tell you the girls on tinder nowadays are getting taller!
They ask what are men under 6 foot? Friends
I say what are girls over 6 foot? Monsters

Vita nova

John Cleese who was probably the tallest member of the Monty Python crew said he mainly got to play authority figures because of his height.

Taller men generally receive more respect and perhaps also expect it and that can work against them whereas shorter men may feel they need to compensate by working harder, achieving more success and thereby earning respect.

Wanderer2010

Range Rover wrote: »

I never said 6' was average height. I said it's a normal height to see, it's comfortably within 1 standard deviation of the mean.

I would class 6 foot as tall. Certainly anyone over that I would classify as fairly tall and 6ft 5 onwards very tall. But in any large group of people I have seen in town, work, bars etc, I wouldn't call 6ft the median or a normal height to see amongst that group. 5ft 8 would be about average.

Blazer

Blazer wrote: »

I don't get this height thing at all.
I'm 5ft 10" and someone's height or lack of height doesn't bother me in the slightest. Are people really that insecure about it?
I have friends who are 5ft2 and others who are 6ft 7 etc..

5'11" and am the same however if I was short it freakishly tall I might well look at it differently.

I'm bald too and it doesn't bother me but would be a bit rich for some guy with luxurious locks telling me how he can't understand how people get upset about having no hair.

Forty Seven

Range Rover wrote: »

Still less than 1 standard deviation taller than average. I'd say 6'2 and above is tall. But let's compare like with like, you're self reported height is 6', the average self reported height in Ireland is 5'10. You're about half a standard deviation taller than average. Have a look at a normal curve and see where half a standard deviation above average lies. Not even close to the tails.

Would you honestly describe yourself as old aged at 38 because it's above average?

Let's be real here, people's egos will cherry pick logic to describe themselves.

For height above average is tall, for age above average doesn't mean old.

I consider myself old at 42.

I do appreciate your curve. We are both correct really but this is after hours so before the clouds get any lower and threaten my vision I shall be leaving now for my power walk. (Thats just a walk to those of you under 6')

RandomName2

Range Rover wrote: »

So I'm tall at 5'10, that's nonsense. When you describe someone as tall you're referencing based on where they live, not because you're taller than a tribe in Bolivia.

Just because you're above the mean does not make you tall, there is an average range. 6' is not tall in Ireland. When you see a 6' man in Ireland you just see a normal height man.

Medically speaking being 'tall' isn't going to be over 6'0, but way over it. Something like 20% beyond the standard deviation.

1.7m is 5'7
1.75m is 5'9
1.82m is 6'0
1.87m is 6'2

Somebody earlier was saying that 5.9 is short and 6'2 is tall

So by that logic, the full gamut of categories between small, average, and tall can be counted within a 6.4% difference?:D

These are all normal heights, but if want to label particular heights as tall, that actually fall right around the top of the normal distribution, and you don't want to just pull a definition out of your arse, you could say 'above average' is tall, and 'below average' is short. Pretty broad strokes, but it's you that wants to make the labels here.

But above average and below average doesn't do it for you, you want to go with the pulling a figure out of your arse, which is your prerogative, sure. Just letting you know that your 6'2 figure is completely arbitrary, and you could as easily say 6'5 or 5'11 for all the sense that it makes.

Range Rover wrote: »

If 5'8 is average then you would expect to see the same amount of 5'4 men as 6' men.

Averages don't work like that.

You could have 60 men who are 6' men and 100 men who are 5'7, and the average is 5'8. (Or 1.745m for the pedantic). Remember that this difference is very small, mathematically. It's only about 7 cm, and when we are dealing with people who are a minimum of 150cm, it's hard for that difference to be of much significance (except psychologically)

Range Rover

Range Rover wrote: »

Still less than 1 standard deviation taller than average. I'd say 6'2 and above is tall. But let's compare like with like, you're self reported height is 6', the average self reported height in Ireland is 5'10. You're about half a standard deviation taller than average. Have a look at a normal curve and see where half a standard deviation above average lies. Not even close to the tails.

Would you honestly describe yourself as old aged at 38 because it's above average?

Let's be real here, people's egos will cherry pick logic to describe themselves.

For height above average is tall, for age above average doesn't mean old.

I'm actually 5'11 and when I'm out the majority of people are shorter than me - except young guys, there are more taller young guys. No way is 5'10" the actual average height. If it is then I'm 6'2"

Gregor Samsa

I’m 6 foot. I don’t regard myself as tall, but certainly above average. In my day to day life, I don’t meet that many people significantly taller than me. In my office (45 people), I’m the 3rd tallest, but two of them are only about an inch taller. The tallest guy is Dutch and 6’ 6”.

I do have some giant relatives, though. I went to my aunt’s 80th birthday last year. Her 3 sons are 6’ 5”, 6” 7” and 6’ 9”. Her daughter is 6 foot. All their male kids (about 10 in total) are 6’ 5” and up. The one female child is 6’ 1”, who the rest referred to as “shorty”.

Chatting to a group of them at the bar, it’s the one time I actually felt small since childhood.

Wanderer2010

Range Rover wrote: »

If 5'8 is average then you would expect to see the same amount of 5'4 men as 6' men.

Depends where you are looking, there are tonnes and tonnes of short men around but you may not see that when taken as a snapshot of people in work, a pub, a street etc. Same way if you work with loads of tall people you may be inclined to think that the typical Irish bloke is 6foot when that's not the case.

Gregor Samsa

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

there are tonnes and tonnes of short men around but you may not see that when taken as a snapshot

This is why you’re supposed to put the short people in the front and the tall people at the back of a photo. Or get the short people to stand on boxes or chairs. Otherwise no one will see them.

I see sheep

More respected by women anyway for sure
Most women don't like shorties

Holly13

I see sheep wrote: »

More respected by women anyway for sure
Most women don't like shorties

“Do I like him, or is he just tall?”

It’s very confusing 🀣

Church on Tuesday

Some excellent pedantry going on here.

Nomaschenko 50

Nomaschenko 50 wrote: »

6' foot today in Ireland is not tall, a good gauge of what's tall is to ask women if a man is tall. Show women a 6' man and they won't say he's tall.

Funny that at 5'11" I'm looking down on the vast majority of them other than the really tall ones. Was never with a 5'5" size girl tho, was always with tall women (5'8"+) often wondered what it would be like to throw one around...

Yer Da sells Avon

I see sheep wrote: »

More respected by women anyway for sure
Most women don't like shorties

I don't think that's true. I think it's something embittered little men, who have a chip on their shoulder about their height, tell themselves when it's actually their personalities that repulse women.

Sometimes I refer to my height on Tinder (a mere 5ft 7 and a bit), sometimes I don't. Whether I've referred to it or not, I've never noticed any difference in the number of women who want a piece of this.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Nomaschenko 50 wrote: »

6' foot today in Ireland is not tall, a good gauge of what's tall is to ask women if a man is tall. Show women a 6' man and they won't say he's tall.

Like it or not, and despite a general feeling otherwise (myself included), the average height for men aged 20 to 49 in Ireland is 5ft 9.5inches (as of 2010).
The same as the UK and, perhaps surprisingly, the USA.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

That can’t be true, can it? 5’9” average height? I would have considered 6’ about average nowadays.

I mean, 5’9”, that’s short!

Lots of men dont actually measure their height. They just tell themselves they are 6 ft. Other guys at the same height also say they are 6ft. So on it goes.

Yer Da sells Avon

Nomaschenko 50 wrote: »

Just looking at it factually, women prefer tall men. Have you ever seen a tinder profile saying only want men under 5'10

It's not a fact, it's a generalisation. And an excuse used by some perennially unlucky-in-love short men. Most profiles mention nothing whatsoever about height.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Mike Nice Sidecar wrote: »

Like it or not, and despite a general feeling otherwise (myself included), the average height for men aged 20 to 49 in Ireland is 5ft 9.5inches (as of 2010).
The same as the UK and, perhaps surprisingly, the USA.

Only surprising because the US used to be taller but Europeans have largely caught up. Fun fact height will probably decline from now on.

Yer Da sells Avon

Nomaschenko 50 wrote: »

Seriously, you don't think women prefer tall men to short men all things equal? Seriously?

When something is systematic a generalisation is apt.

"Horses are bigger than dogs" is a generalisation. It's generally true, to point out that some dogs are bigger than some horses is to miss the point.

No, I don't think women (or men) prefer one particular attribute. Such generalisations are pointless (not to mention defeatist) and ignore lots of other attributes that attract people to each other.

Ecce No Homo

I'm a healthy 6'5 so I stand out. Ladies do prefer a big man, and I mean that in more ways than one. I'm blessed in both respects. Got a flaccid that exceeds the length of most men's hard ons. It's a big old piece of meat that women love to stretch and spin. Bit of a nuisance at cinemas and concerts tho. Sorry manlets but that's the truth.

Woke Hogan

Ecce No Homo wrote: »

I'm a healthy 6'5 so I stand out. Ladies do prefer a big man, and I mean that in more ways than one. I'm blessed in both respects. Got a flaccid that exceeds the length of most men's hard ons. It's a big old piece of meat that women love to stretch and spin. Bit of a nuisance at cinemas and concerts tho. Sorry manlets but that's the truth.

What's your favourite film? Walter Mitty?

Galwayguy35

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

It's not a fact, it's a generalisation. And an excuse used by some perennially unlucky-in-love short men. Most profiles mention nothing whatsoever about height.

They might not mention it but they don't have to when they can filter out the shorties in the search section on most dating sites.