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Are tall men more respected?

  • 31-08-2019 3:37pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Nevermind dating but in the business world/day to day life. I was reading something that said that almost all the U.S. presidents going back a long time, have been nearly 6ft tall. None was 5ft 6in (there were some but during the times of the Founding Fathers).

    I also watched Dragons Den and saw that many presenters, especially Peter Jones were very tall. The guy is ****ing 6ft 7. It sounds a bit ridiculous but I can't help but think if he wasn't that tall, he wouldn't be as successful.

    Any anecdotal truths to this? It makes sense that you'd have more respect for someone you look up to who is more intimidating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Tall men are more respected: you have to look up to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Them fellas in Russia, like Stalin and Lenin Putin were knee high to dwarves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭fineso.mom


    If you look around the site you will find a thread about this very subject.
    Actually...that applies for most subjects. Just to save you some time starting all these threads.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Them fellas in Russia, like Stalin and Lenin Putin were knee high to dwarves.

    But height has increased over a century and the culture in Russia is slightly different.

    In the West, I think height is unfortunately important for men. I know Putin and the PM, Medvedev are 5ft 7in and 5ft 4in respectively.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    phutyle wrote: »
    Tall men are more respected: you have to look up to them.
    Hitler, Mussolini and Franco on t'other side weren't exactly tall either. Napoleon, who lends his name to short man syndrome, wasn't actually short, certainly not by the standards of his time. Around 5'6", which was slightly above average then. The short thing came about from propaganda and a mistake in translating the French measurement system into imperial.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    phutyle wrote: »
    Tall men are more respected: you have to look up to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Of course!
    I regularly and easily impose my will upon others merely by raising myself to my full height and slowly repeating myself!

    Mini-folk, thats what us Vertically gifted call those afflicted with the malady of their holes being too close to the ground ;)
    Well the mini-folk automatically recognise that taller people are inherently superior and thus scuttle off to do my bidding!

    Qualifications, experience and merit all matter naught to us tall folk!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,678 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    A tall man is immediately noticeable, and tall men generally wear clothes better, especially suits. It would also be more difficult to stand your ground when you have to crane your neck to look them in the eye. Psychologically they have advantage of looking down on others to make eye contact.

    In a "getting down to business" context a taller and broader man is more able to throw you around the bed too. I mean that in a non-violent context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Tall people tend to be put in charge of a group just on the basis they are tall and the person choosing can’t be arsed finding out who should lead a project.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    ... well I can tell you tall women are feared. It’s very funny.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    In the last place I worked there were mainly shorter men in charge, same height or marginally taller. I'm 5'7.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    screamer wrote: »
    ... well I can tell you tall women are feared. It’s very funny.....

    I've always been fond of taller women but I've actually been surprised to learn that men generally find them unattractive and they're more self conscious. I'm surprised as I thought that tall women would portray an aura of power and confidence while still being feminine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It's basic animal instinct.

    It's seen across all species in nature, including humans.


    You're not going to fck with somebody who could beat the living sh1te out of ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Filmer Paradise


    I did internet dating many years ago.

    Reading through women's profiles it was instantly clear to me they wanted men on the taller side.

    In general it's much better to be on the taller side, for men at least.

    5'10 to 6'3ish is a good enough height. It gets a bit freaky after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Risky strategy for any person to try an physically intimidate another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    No.

    Rich men are more respected.

    A rich tall man vrs a rich short man....now you have me flummoxed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    LirW wrote: »
    In the last place I worked there were mainly shorter men in charge, same height or marginally taller. I'm 5'7.

    So long as it was men though I’m sure it was fine.


    :). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Weird thing ....i have noticed i know very few tall men. I am 5'4 and female. So they never meet my eye line.

    There are not many tall men in Ireland anyway. The US on the other hand. Wow!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    Weird thing ....i have noticed i know very few tall men. I am 5'4 and female. So they never meet my eye line.

    There are not many tall men in Ireland anyway. The US on the other hand. Wow!

    In the States, only 14.5% of men are over 6ft tall.

    I wonder, would you ever date a man shorter than you? Not just a short man but a man shorter than you. i.e. 5ft3 and under.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Weird thing ....i have noticed i know very few tall men. I am 5'4 and female. So they never meet my eye line.

    There are not many tall men in Ireland anyway. The US on the other hand. Wow!

    The average heights in both countries are within a cm of each other.
    Granted U.S Conurbations are significantly larger and as such more tall men are likely to be seen at any particular time but on a per capita basis not a huge difference in heights.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    I'll answer that, the answer is no.

    And have little short sons? Why would she do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Try the Netherlands.
    I don't quite relish the thought of everyone be able to look over my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    In the States, only 14.5% of men are over 6ft tall.

    I wonder, would you ever date a man shorter than you? Not just a short man but a man shorter than you. i.e. 5ft3 and under.
    Only a really insecure man would ask that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    I’m 6’ 1” in my socks, and am beating the women off to be honest. Some of that is down to my amazing personality and sense of humour, but height certainly helps as well. So is having a big ‘love truncheon’.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Only a really insecure man would ask that.

    Which is why he asked...
    Now that you've pointed it out you have messed up the whole game!!!! FFS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    I’m 6’ 1” in my socks, and am beating the women off to be honest. Some of that is down to my amazing personality and sense of humour, but height certainly helps as well. So is having a big ‘love truncheon’.

    If you walk around with the love truncheon hanging out it attracts the ladies alright. Be sure and send the pictures to the in private mail or DM, they love that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,494 ✭✭✭harr


    Are people in Ireland getting taller? When I was in school/college most of us were in and around 5,7 to 5,10 and 6 foot was considered tall but now when I see 16 or 17 year olds they seem huge not only tall but broad as well ...even my own lads are a hell of a lot taller than I was at that age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    On the Operation Transformation measurement I did last February I came in at 6ft 2.7inches!

    Am I 6ft 2 or 6ft3 or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    As a man, the first thing, albeit its in my subconscious, I think is "Hes tall, he is bigger than me, he's a potential threat". Now he could be a pr!ck or a lovely fellow, but I think sizing another man up physically happens between men all the time, even if they aren't aware of it. Even if you really dislike him, you are going to have some level of respect for him if you are smaller and he is taller. That's my view anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Rufeo


    When I was in school, one of my mates was constantly being slagged off for being tall.

    They used to ask him what the weather was like "up there"

    Seriously. Children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2. So I'd say it's rather irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2. So I'd say it's rather irrelevant.

    He wasn’t, that was just popular culture. He was average in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2.

    No he wasn't. He was loin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    BDI wrote: »
    He wasn’t, that was just popular culture. He was average in real life.

    For the peasant class yes.

    Overall he was average height for his time, but if we are talking about prominent men in history (fairly recent history) he is pretty tiny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Well Napoleon was 5 ft 2. So I'd say it's rather irrelevant.


    That equates to 5'6" which was taller than the average of 19th century of 5'5".
    He was also usually surrounded by his Guards unit who were basically the giants of the age.
    His nickname of 'little corporal' was an almost ironic nickname due to his success in relation to his rank at the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    harr wrote: »
    Are people in Ireland getting taller?

    It definitely feels that way. I felt awkwardly tall/skinny when I was younger but don't feel that way any more, although that might be because I'm less self-conscious about my appearance.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think shoulders have a lot to do with it. There's a bar manager where I live who is around 5'7, like myself, but he is a very very strong guy and carries it really well in his mid 50s. He has more presence than any tall guy I know who doesn't work out. I know a couple of people like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭NSAman


    I’m 6’ 1” in my socks, and am beating the women off to be honest. Some of that is down to my amazing personality and sense of humour, but height certainly helps as well. So is having a big ‘love truncheon’.

    You forgot to mention your incredible modesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    The more societal ideals you meet the more "respect" you are likely to be given as people tend to give "respect" based on what someone potentially has to offer them on one level or another

    The converse also applies of course and the less societal ideals you meet the less "respect" you are likely to be given, as you're of lesser use to people, potentially speaking.

    What we call "respect" though is really more often that not actually manipulation, panering or fear.

    Genuine respect is rare and has little or nothing to do with things which are as superficial as one's height.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Nevermind dating but in the business world/day to day life. I was reading something that said that almost all the U.S. presidents going back a long time, have been nearly 6ft tall. None was 5ft 6in (there were some but during the times of the Founding Fathers).

    I also watched Dragons Den and saw that many presenters, especially Peter Jones were very tall. The guy is ****ing 6ft 7. It sounds a bit ridiculous but I can't help but think if he wasn't that tall, he wouldn't be as successful.

    Any anecdotal truths to this? It makes sense that you'd have more respect for someone you look up to who is more intimidating.

    Maybe if famous, more likely to be disrespected if very tall if you live a regular life as you stand out, people don't like those who stand out

    I'm very tall and it's a burden most of the time


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,301 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    As a man, the first thing, albeit its in my subconscious, I think is "Hes tall, he is bigger than me, he's a potential threat". Now he could be a pr!ck or a lovely fellow, but I think sizing another man up physically happens between men all the time, even if they aren't aware of it. Even if you really dislike him, you are going to have some level of respect for him if you are smaller and he is taller. That's my view anyway.

    That's not respect, that's incipient fear.
    There is a huge difference between respect and fear.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Holly Loose Carrot


    i think it impacts everyone, don't women in japan or china have leg extension surgery so they will be taken more seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.

    A tiny minority of women in Holland are six foot, same as everywhere else


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Forty Seven


    I'm 6' exactly. Can't say I've ever noticed any extra respect because of it. I'm wary of short men, many feel they have something to prove (oddly common in Glasgow) and are prone to starting trouble.

    Height is definitely a thing in online dating but having experimented by changing photo and sex on an ad and watching one get all the hits and one get none I can see why women are able to be choosy. Much better to just make approaches the old fashioned way.

    (Only if you're tall of course)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,433 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    I find it’s how someone carries themselves and how they act is what garners them respect but it would be easier for a “stoic” man of 6’6” to project this.

    I’m bang on 6’, so fairly average height, and I do find a lot of “smaller” men can get their back ups about their height. In an office environment they have to be treated firmly so as to stop them “acting out”.

    It’s easier to achieve this with a “commanding” frame as opposed to a tubby 5’9” one with an unkempt beard, red face and hair that wouldn’t be out of place on a poodle.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭selwyn froggitt


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.

    It's pretty obvious why the Dutch are so tall.
    Natural selection and Evolutionary pressure from living in a flood zone.
    Most of the country is below sea level,so when the floods came,only the tall survived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    I don't get this height thing at all.
    I'm 5ft 10" and someone's height or lack of height doesn't bother me in the slightest. Are people really that insecure about it?
    I have friends who are 5ft2 and others who are 6ft 7 etc..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Im 6ft but if you want to see tall folk go to holland. I have some friends there and id always be shortest in group. If youre at a bar or something therell always be women over 6ft too. Giants.

    I’m 6ft 3. In Ireland I was usually the tallest person in every meeting or in a lift. Very rarely met a woman taller than me.

    Since moving to the Netherlands it’s completely different. I’m rarely the tallest person in given situation and I meet women who are taller than me every day. I think it’s all the cheese and eggs they eat.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Sorry about that


    I'm 5'9 and have dated men who were shorter than me. In theory it didn't bother me but in practice I felt it was a bad match and I felt a bit silly (and wore flat shoes). But I respected them as much as anyone.

    My guess on tall men being perceived to have more respect is that as children we literally "look up" to our Dads and in adulthood we unconsciously rate the taller man that little more.


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