M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

CoBo55 · 14-08-2019 4:59pm

Just drove it, it's lovely, getting plenty of use too!!

SCOOP 64 · 14-08-2019 5:11pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Just drove it, it's lovely, getting plenty of use too!!

How much quicker do think it was being the town with little traffic last 3 weeks with other part open?

badgerbroc11 · 14-08-2019 5:32pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

Just drove it, it's lovely, getting plenty of use too!!

Have just driven it as well. Another nice road with good open countryside. 5 1/2 minutes to drive it so it should be another good time saver.

As you say, there was a lot of traffic on it. Island Road and the quays in Enniscorthy will be very quite now.

badgerbroc11 · 14-08-2019 5:35pm

jd wrote: »

Looks like it has opened..
https://www.facebook.com/PaulKehoeTD/posts/10157545368372138

I hope that Paul Kehoe now does something for Enniscorthy. Theres a great opportunity to develop the quays into a semi covered pedestrianised street with cafes and restaurants from the old bridge down to the Riverside with some watersports etc for families.

With a bit of effort Enniscorthy could be a great destination town in the centre of everything Co. Wexford has to offer

BelfastVanMan · 14-08-2019 6:44pm

badgerbroc11 wrote: »

I hope that Paul Kehoe now does something for Enniscorthy. Theres a great opportunity to develop the quays into a semi covered pedestrianised street with cafes and restaurants from the old bridge down to the Riverside with some watersports etc for families.

With a bit of effort Enniscorthy could be a great destination town in the centre of everything Co. Wexford has to offer

Couldn't agree more, so much potential, there.

peadar76 · 14-08-2019 9:24pm

badgerbroc11 wrote: »

CoBo55 wrote: »

Just drove it, it's lovely, getting plenty of use too!!

Have just driven it as well. Another nice road with good open countryside. 5 1/2 minutes to drive it so it should be another good time saver.

As you say, there was a lot of traffic on it. Island Road and the quays in Enniscorthy will be very quite now.

Just under 5 minutes

peadar76 · 14-08-2019 9:31pm

For anyone travelling from Kilkenny, from the roundabout on the kiltealy road to the scurlocksbush roundabout is 11 minutes 20 seconds via the new roads. Not sure what it is through the town but I will be checking

CoBo55 · 14-08-2019 10:52pm

peadar76 wrote: »

For anyone travelling from Kilkenny, from the roundabout on the kiltealy road to the scurlocksbush roundabout is 11 minutes 20 seconds via the new roads. Not sure what it is through the town but I will be checking

More than twice that I'd imagine.

kneemos · 14-08-2019 11:10pm

CoBo55 wrote: »

More than twice that I'd imagine.

Counter intuitive to add several kilometres to the journey,but you're probably right.

badgerbroc11 · 15-08-2019 7:41am

Here's a link to a video of the drive in the new N30 from Scarawalsh

https://youtu.be/czrX4EL_efk

CoBo55 · 15-08-2019 10:23am

badgerbroc11 wrote: »

Here's a link to a video of the drive in the new N30 from Scarawalsh

https://youtu.be/czrX4EL_efk

I was really surprised at how busy it was. It was only open about 20 minutes when I drove it.

PhilOssophy · 15-08-2019 2:34pm

If people are expecting Paul Kehoe to do something......

red_bairn · 15-08-2019 4:29pm

badgerbroc11 wrote: »

Here's a link to a video of the drive in the new N30 from Scarawalsh

https://youtu.be/czrX4EL_efk

Is that your video?

peadar76 · 15-08-2019 9:27pm

peadar76 wrote: »

For anyone travelling from Kilkenny, from the roundabout on the kiltealy road to the scurlocksbush roundabout is 11 minutes 20 seconds via the new roads. Not sure what it is through the town but I will be checking

11:30 through the town at about 8:30pm, so feck all difference when town is quiet. Although that was driving at the previous speed limit

road_high · 15-08-2019 10:09pm

Great to see another major bottleneck consigned to the history books. Plenty more could do with the same and soon

Say my name · 16-08-2019 7:21pm

Say my name wrote: »

The boards effect!!!

This is now a double solid white line instead of the above.

It's 4.45 in the YouTube clip a few posts back.

josip · 16-08-2019 8:01pm

I wonder was repainting the median the minor Health and Safety issues given for the delay opening?

thethinker · 17-08-2019 11:37am

Say my name wrote: »

The boards effect!!!

This is now a double solid white line instead of the above.

It's 4.45 in the YouTube clip a few posts back.

So the dotted line on single carriage side of the road in the pic has become a continous white line. So if you are travelling on the side of the single carriage, stuck behind one of the many slow vehicles that haunt our roads, you are not allowed overtake, even if the two lanes coming the other way are empty?

BelfastVanMan · 17-08-2019 1:20pm

thethinker wrote: »

So the dotted line on single carriage side of the road in the pic has become a continous white line. So if you are travelling on the side of the single carriage, stuck behind one of the many slow vehicles that haunt our roads, you are not allowed overtake, even if the two lanes coming the other way are empty?

That's the jist of it, yes.
Sure, what odds?

Marhay70 · 17-08-2019 1:28pm

It won't make any difference because the majority of drivers in Ireland either don't know what road markings signify or if they do, ignore them anyway.

Say my name · 17-08-2019 2:37pm

thethinker wrote: »

So the dotted line on single carriage side of the road in the pic has become a continous white line. So if you are travelling on the side of the single carriage, stuck behind one of the many slow vehicles that haunt our roads, you are not allowed overtake, even if the two lanes coming the other way are empty?

Ah in fairness it was a stupid move in the first place to have the broken line there.

It's a very short piece of road effected about 500m and going over and downhill a hill crest so it was only asking to encourage drivers to pass out when users on the other side might not be expecting a vehicle to cross into their overtaking lane.

Anyways BAM may be claiming that road.
And good work to them!
But I'm claiming that little bit of paint on that road. :pac:

smokie72 · 17-08-2019 4:26pm

Drove the new N30 section from Scarawalsh roundabout earlier today. First thing I noticed is the speed limit is 100km/h as you would expect with a N road. Drove the old N11 Section or the R772 on my way back through Enniscorthy, Ferns and Camolin and they are noticeable quieter. In fact I thought both Ferns and Camolin were ghost towns in camparison to before. The 80km/h speed limit is too low for the old N11. That section should be 100km/h. I reckon I save between 15 and 20 minutes travelling from Dublin with the new bypass. Overall I'm happy with the bypass. Now if only Olygate was bypassed.....

m17 · 17-08-2019 10:41pm

road_high wrote: »

Great to see another major bottleneck consigned to the history books. Plenty more could do with the same and soon

Adare comes to mind

spacetweek · 17-08-2019 11:26pm

smokie72 wrote: »

The 80km/h speed limit is too low for the old N11. That section should be 100km/h.

If there are houses along it, then their needs need to be considered. They'd prefer traffic to pass at 80 not 100 as it would make less noise, reduce danger etc.

marno21 · 17-08-2019 11:29pm

spacetweek wrote: »

If there are houses along it, then their needs need to be considered. They'd prefer traffic to pass at 80 not 100 as it would make less noise, reduce danger etc.

The majority of the national road network has houses along it and is 100km/h, and some of that has no shoulders and is old legacy road.

The R772/old N11 is realigned, has hard shoulders, is not too busy and is wide and straight. It's a no brainer to put it back to 100km/h. Retaining an 80km/h limit simply because it's the default case for roads with white signs is daft.

road_high · 17-08-2019 11:51pm

marno21 wrote: »

The majority of the national road network has houses along it and is 100km/h, and some of that has no shoulders and is old legacy road.

The R772/old N11 is realigned, has hard shoulders, is not too busy and is wide and straight. It's a no brainer to put it back to 100km/h. Retaining an 80km/h limit simply because it's the default case for roads with white signs is daft.

I’d assume most of it will revert back. Needs the council to vote on it I think. Probably on hols for August. Lot of the N11 was upgraded early 90s or so and was a reasonable quality road

road_high · 17-08-2019 11:52pm

spacetweek wrote: »

If there are houses along it, then their needs need to be considered. They'd prefer traffic to pass at 80 not 100 as it would make less noise, reduce danger etc.

They had to put up with it when it was the main N11 route with triple the traffic. Much safer now with lower volumes so no reason to lower the limit

Cantona's Collars · 18-08-2019 1:43am

road_high wrote: »

They had to put up with it when it was the main N11 route with triple the traffic. Much safer now with lower volumes so no reason to lower the limit

It's 80 kph from Clogh to Scarawalsh,it drops again at the BAM compound for obvious safety reasons but then it goes back to 100 kph for 4km into Blackstoops roundabout on the edge of Enniscorthy only for the limit to revert to 80kph at the other side of the town again to the roundabout at the Oylegate end of the M11 and back to 100kph once you go through said roundabout.

marno21 · 18-08-2019 2:06am

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

It's 80 kph from Clogh to Scarawalsh,it drops again at the BAM compound for obvious safety reasons but then it goes back to 100 kph for 4km into Blackstoops roundabout on the edge of Enniscorthy only for the limit to revert to 80kph at the other side of the town again to the roundabout at the Oylegate end of the M11 and back to 100kph once you go through said roundabout.

The Scarawalsh-Enniscorthy section was technically N30 until the new link road opened this week, so presumably will be dropped to 80km/h by default shortly.

The Council will likely bring the whole lot up to 100km/h asap, and if they don't t they'll be pressurised into doing so sooner rather than later.

CoBo55 · 18-08-2019 6:10am

Mother of Jesus in heaven spare us from the speed limit bullshît.. It's been done to death at this stage...

spacetweek · 18-08-2019 12:44pm

That's enough about speed limits.

CoBo55 · 18-08-2019 1:38pm

spacetweek wrote: »

That's enough about speed limits.

Thank you.

Cantona's Collars · 20-08-2019 3:55pm

Well the N30 section is open, still didn't get a chance to take a spin on it.

The boy racers are busy burning the tyres off their cars near the Ballydawmore interchange. The road is covered with the evidence of their late night diffing sessions.

kneemos · 20-08-2019 6:22pm

Anybody using the Oulart Rd to access Enniscorthy?
They were expecting throngs of traffic.

Bigus · 20-08-2019 6:37pm

kneemos wrote: »

Anybody using the Oulart Rd to access Enniscorthy?
They were expecting throngs of traffic.

Heading to Blackwater I Did a split at junction 23 with one of my mates , he went ballycanew , I went m11 junction 25, he was right behind me ,Tuesday evening at around 4.30 , I couldn’t believe it but we both arrived into Blackwater village at the exact same time, except me behind him when he was slowed with a Lorry. I had myself convinced the motorway and the ballagh were 6 min quicker. So to answer your question I don’t think they’re overwhelmed with traffic by any stretch.

kneemos · 22-08-2019 4:04pm

Big hold ups in Oylgate today. Thought they had it sorted?

jd · 22-08-2019 4:48pm

I think there wa sa funeral today in the village. I hope they didn't change the traffic lights back..

Cantona's Collars · 23-08-2019 1:29am

kneemos wrote: »

Anybody using the Oulart Rd to access Enniscorthy?
They were expecting throngs of traffic.

The signage sends cars along the N30 to Scarawalsh instead. Anyone unfamiliar with the road will go that way,locals will use the road through Finchogue.

Cantona's Collars · 25-08-2019 10:17pm

The new N30 stretch is dead handy for anyone on the west of the town. There's still people getting confused by the roundabouts at Scarawalsh though, despite lanes being marked there's constant cutting off and terrible lane discipline on them,the opening of the new stretch has added to it. Nothing wrong with the road,just rank bad driving.
It also has several new layers of rubber on it as the country chaps burn the tyres off their cars on it.

Cantona's Collars · 31-08-2019 11:49pm

The new roundabout at Scarawalsh has already caught out someone. Despite a reduction in the speed limit because of the site compound, someone managed to drive through it and demolished one of the chevrons telling them to turn left.
It's not as if the thing popped up out of the ground in front of the driver.:)

jd · 01-09-2019 12:35am

TBH Wexford drivers aren't the best. A few years ago on facepuke people were complaining (Wexford Mammys or Chemtrail observations pages, not sure which one ) that traffic lights with filter lane signalling were confusing!

BelfastVanMan · 01-09-2019 8:47am

jd wrote: »

TBH Wexford drivers aren't the best. A few years ago on facepuke people were complaining (Wexford Mammys or Chemtrail observations pages, not sure which one ) that traffic lights with filter lane signalling were confusing!

Is this all of them? :-/

Cantona's Collars · 01-09-2019 11:22am

I've heard of one lad who ended up in the middle of a roundabout down near Rosslare. His excuse was "that wasn't there the last time I was on this road".
Personally,I witnessed a fella drive the wrong way around one, there had previously been a contraflow on it. We managed to stop him before he met a grisly end under a truck. Same kind of excuse, "but I could drive that way this morning".
Anyhow back on topic,with the schools back it's actually going to be quicker to use the new N30 section to get from one side of the town to the other despite the extra miles.

kneemos · 01-09-2019 12:32pm

The roundabout at Blackstoops regularly had cars going straight over it and hundred metre skid marks from trucks approaching.

Someone eventually copped to put up proper signage.

The double effort at Scarwalsh must be mighty confusing for strangers.

CoBo55 · 01-09-2019 3:58pm

The atrocious signage, particularly on the approach from the old N11 doesn't help matters at all. The sign just shows one roundabout when there's two, all very strange.

Chris_5339762 · 01-09-2019 5:43pm

Now to be honest I haven't driven on it, but to have those two roundabouts right on top of each other like that seems really daft.

CoBo55 · 01-09-2019 8:12pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Now to be honest I haven't driven on it, but to have those two roundabouts right on top of each other like that seems really daft.

There are plenty of places with double roundabouts but they're adequately signposted on approach, it isn't hard to do.

blindsider · 02-09-2019 12:29am

Drove the road from Scarawalsh to Scoby and on to New Ross.

What a great road. No messing around in Enniscorthy at all - a pleasure to drive!

Cantona's Collars · 02-09-2019 12:49am

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Now to be honest I haven't driven on it, but to have those two roundabouts right on top of each other like that seems really daft.

It's actually not hard to negotiate but some people just can't get their heads around how to use roundabouts.
The road marking could be better but this is a thing all over the country. The lane marking telling you to use the right lane for the N30 can see you cutting someone off as you cross the left lane to get onto it whereas staying in the left hand lane is the correct way to negotiate it.

Hamnavoe17 · 04-09-2019 4:44am

Probably the topic for a new thread but whilst understanding the need to slow traffic entering, My thoughts on roundabouts is that the exits should be less sharp to allow smoother flow, Other hazards permitting of course.

M11/N30 - Gorey to Enniscorthy [open to traffic]

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