Irish Youtuber - cold shower punishment for 2 yr old

Your Face · 19-08-2019 09:44AM

I'd seems dumb to me.
Washing with warm water would be more effective than with cold or tepid water.
They were just making work for themselves.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 09:46AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I am not going to comment on your family situation. Its unfair to you and irrelevant to the conversation.

Take care of yourself.

I'm asking you to answer if it's OK to slap adults with diminished cognitive ability who have toilet accidents in the same way you were punished as a child for them.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 09:47AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They tried that for months.

Tough. That's parenting.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 09:49AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

I'm asking you to answer if it's OK to slap adults with diminished cognitive ability who have toilet accidents in the same way you were punished as a child for them.

This isn't about you or adults with diminished cognitive ability. And since you have expressed your current situation. I certainly don't want to what's the word. make you feel my answer is in some way about you. It isn't.

No its not suitable to hit or spank older people. There are many reasons for this.

It sometimes is suitable to lightly smack children in very rare cases though.

Reasonable chastisement is not part of old age. They are adults.
Children are not.

Sittingpretty · 19-08-2019 09:50AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

That is exactly what they did.

It’s not though.

They washed her in cold water as a punishment.

I can’t make out if you’re being deliberately obtuse or if you’re desperately trying to justify your own childhood.

I was smacked with a wooden spoon like many other Irish children, I don’t smack my own children nor would I but I don’t think my mother was a monster for doing it as, at the time, it was acceptable.

The SJ’s have every single option open to them, they are known for creating drama, there are many options they could have tried before resorting to military style punishment. Anna has in the past admitted to having broken a chair throwing it at her husband. Testament enough as to her character in my opinion.

I hope for their children’s sake their Truman show lifestyle is coming to an end and that they sincerely consider valuing their children’s privacy enough to take them offline. They won’t of course because that would stop the $ rolling in and they don’t have the talent or ingenuity to create marketable content without using their children.

TheChizler · 19-08-2019 09:50AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

No they should have washed her in nice warm water and changed her bed and out her back to sleep without fuss. And try different parenting techniques like a reward system, more secure nappies and night clothes, etc. Little children do this kind of thing. Then they grow out of it.

What do you do when the child sees the hot shower as a reward for the bad behaviour?

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 09:54AM

TheChizler wrote: »

What do you do when the child sees the hot shower as a reward for the bad behaviour?

I was thinking wash her down with a baby wipe or something. But you probably wouldn't get all of it off. Or its a bit unhygienic.

The truth is sometimes parents can't win.

mondeo · 19-08-2019 09:54AM

I never watched an Irish youtuber in my life... I wouldn't watch one either...Somthing unfitting about Irish people who use the word "guys" all the time. I guess to fit in and seem trendy the word "guys" is vital and essential. The result of watching too much American TV shows I guess..

Cold baths didn't kill me. In fact cold water will help tone your skin and stop it from getting dry compared to hot water.

I don'

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 09:55AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

This isn't about you or adults with diminished cognitive ability. And since you have expressed your current situation. I certainly don't want to what's the word. make you feel my answer is in some way about you. It isn't.

No its not suitable to hit or spank older people. There are many reasons for this.

It sometimes is suitable to lightly smack children in very rare cases though.

It's about punishing people for toileting accidents who have poor control and understanding of the hygiene element of human waste.

Yes or no? Would it be OK to slap or otherwise punish such an adult for a toileting accident in the way you were punished as a child. ?

This tread isn't about you either , bit that hadn't stopped you filling the thread with anecdotes about yourself.

OK I see you've stated that you don't think it's OK to hit an adult with diminished cognitive abilities, so why in the hell would you advocate hitting a tiny person with limited cognitive abilities?

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 09:57AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Tough. That's parenting.

She was taking off her nappy every night for months she was putting her hands in her nappy then in her hair and her mouth.

You think that can go on for months and a child is going to never get sick etc?

Its urine and excrement.

InTheShadows · 19-08-2019 09:57AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

What is wrong with forcing some discomfort on a child ?

Is that wrong?

I mean i don't know but is it? Truly all discomfort?

Jesus Christ

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:00AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

OK I see you've stated that you don't think it's OK to hit an adult with diminished cognitive abilities, so why in the hell would you advocate hitting a tiny person with limited cognitive abilities?

I actually just stated the complete opposite of that.

Read my post.

This isn't about you or adults with diminished cognitive ability. And since you have expressed your current situation. I certainly don't want to what's the word. make you feel my answer is in some way about you. It isn't.

No its not suitable to hit or spank older people. There are many reasons for this.

It sometimes is suitable to lightly smack children in very rare cases though.

Are you ok?

19-08-2019 10:02AM

I'm more concerned about when the child grows up and is known as the one that smeared **** all over their bed. That could lead to plenty of their own problems. I despise these talentless pricks that use their children to get views and money.

**** them.

sbsquarepants · 19-08-2019 10:03AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Is it an awful thing to do?

Are you seriously asking if it's OK to put a toddler in a cold shower as punishment for being bold?

B.A._Baracus · 19-08-2019 10:03AM

Yeah, its wrong.
Why even say something like that tho? lol. I dont get it. Anything you put to youtube will be judged and you're trying to make money? have some common sense.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:04AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm more concerned about the when the child grows up and is known as the one that smeared **** all over their bed. That could lead to plenty of their own problems. I despise these talentless pricks that use their children to get views and money.

**** them.

And in her mouth...for months Yep. Not exactly going to be easy teens.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:04AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

She was taking off her nappy every night for months she was putting her hands in her nappy then in her hair and her mouth.

You think that can go on for months and a child is going to never get sick etc?

Its urine and excrement.

Yup. That happens. It happens with dementia too. They don't understand because in one case they have yet to develop the capacity and on the other they have lost it. Only thing you can do is clean them up with the dignity and respect owed to each. Yes it's frustrating. Yes it's disgusting. Yes it's exhausting. But if you dont wsnt to do any soldiering dont become a soldier. At least the 2 year olds case, she will grow out of it.

Sittingpretty · 19-08-2019 10:06AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Are you seriously asking if it's OK to put a toddler in a cold shower as punishment for being bold?

Jesus please don’t rattle the cage that will result in endless pointless links as to why it is ok to punish you child military style because they put their babies to sleep outside in Finland. PLEASE

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:06AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Are you seriously asking if it's OK to put a toddler in a cold shower as punishment for being bold?

That isn't what happened for the last time.

She was put in the shower because she had covered herself in poo so they had to wash her.

She likes hot showers ...she was beginning to do it simply to get up out of bed during the night to get one. This went on for months.

So the next time they washed her they gave her a luke warm shower.

And i don't think putting a toddler in a cold shower would kill anyone.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:08AM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Jesus please don’t rattle the cage that will result in endless pointless links as to why it is ok to punish you child military style because they put their babies to sleep outside in Finland. PLEASE

My mother's background gives cold baths to children and also lets them sleep outside in winter.

I know it might not be culturally normal to Irish kids etc.

But this is indoords in the uk and during the summer.

People reported them to the NPCC (Uk version of ISPCC).

Seriously.

Will you stop lying about what actually happened? Its not right.

You are going to have to learn you can't accuse people of abusing their child so lightly its not right.

What if i said you were abusing your father? Based on something i saw?

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:09AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I actually just stated the complete opposite of that.

Read my post.

/quote]

You stated earlier in the thread that your mother slapped you as a small child when you wet yourself. You stated that there was nothing wrong with that. So yes, you do advocate physically punishing small children who have toilet accidents. OK if they are small and don't understand, not OK if they are big and don't understand.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:10AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

My mother's background gives cold baths to children and also lets them sleep outside in winter.

I know it might not be culturally normal to Irish kids etc.

But this is indoords in the uk and during the summer.

People reported them to the NPCC (Uk version of ISPCC).

Seriously.

Will you stop lying about what actually happened. Its not right.

OK, you've gone back to ther start of the record.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:12AM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Jesus please don’t rattle the cage that will result in endless pointless links as to why it is ok to punish you child military style because they put their babies to sleep outside in Finland. PLEASE

Too late! Rewind has been hit. Don't panic though. She has been posting non stop all night. She's bound to crash out soon.

Sittingpretty · 19-08-2019 10:12AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

That isn't what happened for the last time.

She was put in the shower because she had covered herself in poo so they had to wash her.

She likes hot showers ...she was beginning to do it simply to get up out of bed during the night to get one. This went on for months.

So the next time they washed her they gave her a luke warm shower.

And i don't think putting a toddler in a cold shower would kill anyone.

Wrong. Again.

She hasn’t been training for months so she has t been doing it for months.

They said cold multiple times, they backtracked with “lukewarm”. They also used the word punishment and discipline. Most babies are washed in lukewarm water anyway so this wouldnt fulfill their criteria of punishment.

This happened (the most recent incident) during her daytime nap.

Why are you defending them? Presumably because you endorse this kind of punishment and don’t see any issue with it. That’s fine your opinion is your own but don’t expect most people/parents not to disagree with you.

It’s an abhorrent parenting decision.

Monkey2019 · 19-08-2019 10:12AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

She was taking off her nappy every night for months she was putting her hands in her nappy then in her hair and her mouth.

You think that can go on for months and a child is going to never get sick etc?

Its urine and excrement.

And she is only 2 years of age. She doesn't understand.
Some times that kind of behaviour is linked with sensory issues.
Instead of punishing her maybe they should be seeing if there is some kind of issue there.

They said themselves they used a cold shower as a punishment not just because it was 4am and they had no hot water.
It's what they do as a punishment. This is what people have the issue with.

I don't understand why anyone would condone this...is it because they are wealthy and are "influencers"?
If this was a single mam from a rough council estate I can guarantee you it would be a completely different story.

Yes the kids are well dressed and happy looking in their instagram posts. That's what instagram is all about - portraying your best life.

Punishments like that are not ok and especially not ok for a 2 year old that had an accident.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:13AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I actually just stated the complete opposite of that.

Read my post.

/quote]

You stated earlier in the thread that your mother slapped you as a small child when you wet yourself. You stated that there was nothing wrong with that. So yes, you do advocate physically punishing small children who have toilet accidents. OK if they are small and don't understand, not OK if they are big and don't understand.

Children being lightly smacking on rare occasion yes.

Sardi. You can't just go around accusing parents of child abuse like that. Its serious.

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Originally Posted by Monkey2019 View Post
And she is only 2 years of age. She doesn't understand.
Some times that kind of behaviour is linked with sensory issues.
Instead of punishing her maybe they should be seeing if there is some kind of issue there.

They said themselves they used a cold shower as a punishment not just because it was 4am and they had no hot water.
It's what they do as a punishment. This is what people have the issue with.

I don't understand why anyone would condone this...is it because they are wealthy and are "influencers"?
If this was a single mam from a rough council estate I can guarantee you it would be a completely different story.

Yes the kids are well dressed and happy looking in their instagram posts. That's what instagram is all about - portraying your best life.

Punishments like that are not ok and especially not ok for a 2 year old that had an accident.
It wasn't an accident. She had been doing it on purpose. Taking off her nappy etc.

She has no sensory issues.

You realize if its been reported there has to be an investigation kids can be removed from the house?

All because of a cool shower.

Sardonicat · 19-08-2019 10:16AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

Children being lightly smacking on rare occasion yes.

Sardi. You can't just go around accusing parents of child abuse like that. Its serious.

Stop deflecting. You advocate slapping children for toileting accidents. Something they have little control or understanding of. Why then should you not hot about adult for the same thing? Why is it OK to slap a child and not an adult?

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:19AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Stop deflecting. You advocate slapping children for toileting accidents. Something they have little control or understanding of. Why then should you not hot about adult for the same thing? Why is it OK to slap a child and not an adult?

It is sometimes ok to slap an adult.

If an adult threatens you ...you slap them if you need to.

No?

You defend yourself.

Children are not reasonable like adults. They are different and have different needs. I am sorry but that is true.

Its not something i would advocate regularly for nor harshly.

But rarely if a parent chose to and of course it were legal (as it is by way in the UK where they live).

That being said i would only 'tap' the hand. Bad handy etc.

If that is abuse my lord.

sbsquarepants · 19-08-2019 10:20AM

Monkey2019 wrote: »

Punishments like that are not ok and especially not ok for a 2 year old that had an accident.

It's child abuse, plain and simple. The fact it takes place in some leafy suburb as opposed to a shíthole council estate doesn't change what it is.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-08-2019 10:22AM

Also there are occasions where adults do have to be restrained by medical staff.

Its sad but it happens.

Irish Youtuber - cold shower punishment for 2 yr old

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