Irish Youtuber - cold shower punishment for 2 yr old

ILoveYourVibes

Deleted User wrote: »

Getting on in the real world.

It really doesn't show.

dickangel

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I would say to you so it must be such a shame to have such a LIMITED personal experience to draw from.

You lead such sheltered lives. Yet i post on here so much?? What you doing?

Often personal experience is irrelevant and a cheap substitute for facts and logic.

Also, I'm not sure you can judge someone to be sheltered based on their stance on cold showers as punishment for toddlers.

ILoveYourVibes

Well all i can say is if you think its GENUINE abuse you have a duty to report it.

If you don't report it stop slandering the family. Its a serious allegation.

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I would say to you so it must be such a shame to have such a LIMITED personal experience to draw from.

You lead such sheltered lives. Yet i post on here so much?? What you doing?

I can assure you that Social Workers in Ireland and the UK would consider placing a toddler in a cold shower for messing a bed or 'lightly" slapping them for the same would consider both to be child abuse. Perhaps you should raise your concerns with Tusla?

ILoveYourVibes

dickangel wrote: »

Often personal experience is irrelevant and a cheap substitute for facts and logic.

Also, I'm not sure you can judge someone to be sheltered based on their stance on cold showers as punishment for toddlers.

Fact most babies in some of the harshest climates in the world get cold showers. I have just showed you video evidence of babies being give cold showers in siberia.

No one on this thread seems to have any real idea of what this process looks like in real life. They jumped to the conclusion it was horrendous based on their imagination. I call that sheltered.

Again if you feel its abuse then you have to report it.

If you feel its not then you have to stop slandering the family.

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

I thought you were Dutch.

Nope.

Sardonicat

They jumped to the conclusion that punishing a child with a cold shower is horrendous. Punishing a toddler for having a toileting accident is horrendous and is considered abusive by professionals here and in the UK.

dickangel

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Fact most babies in some of the harshest climates in the world get cold showers.

No one on this thread seems to have any real idea of what this process looks like in real life. They jumped to the conclusion it was horrendous based on their imagination. I call that sheltered.

Again if you feel its abuse then you have to report it.

If you feel its not then you have to stop slandering the family.

It's been pointed out several times that it's the intent of the parents that's the issue. They intend to punish the child with cold showers.

Your waffle about Siberia has no relevance at all. It's completely useless to the discussion.

Raconteuse

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He doesn't. Like you would know someone was telling stories about having an Irish friend.

How on earth can you know SHE doesn't have a Russian friend? What's so far fetched about such an assertion?

You haven't a clue about what you are talking.

I asked how do you know Sardonicat doesn't have a Russian friend - and that means I haven't a clue what I'm talking about. You go on about bullying and how people should be kind and not cause drama - and look at the way you speak to people. Calling someone an idiot too. "Do as I say, not as I do" eh?

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

It really doesn't show.

How doesn't it show? This is just one topic.

Sardonicat

Raconteuse wrote: »

How on earth can you know SHE doesn't have a Russian friend? What's so far fetched about such an assertion?

I asked how do you know Sardonicat doesn't have a Russian friend - and that means I haven't a clue what I'm talking about. You go on about bullying and how people should be kind and not cause drama - and look at the way you speak to people. Calling someone an idiot too. "Do as I say, not as I do" eh?

How doesn't it show? This is just one topic.

Seriously, she's calling me 'he' , again. Just this morning I corrected Vibes as to my gender.

ILoveYourVibes

Raconteuse wrote: »

How on earth can you know SHE doesn't have a Russian friend? What's so far fetched about such an assertion?

I asked how do you know Sardonicat doesn't have a Russian friend - and that means I haven't a clue what I'm talking about. You go on about bullying and how people should be kind and not cause drama - and look at the way you speak to people. Calling someone an idiot too. "Do as I say, not as I do" eh?

How doesn't it show? This is just one topic.

Ok Apologies. Wow.

Raconteuse

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Ok Apologies. Wow.

"Wow" what?

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

Seriously, she's calling me 'he' , again. Just this morning I corrected Vibes as to my gender.

I spoke to you this morning you sure??

I dont remember speaking to you before at all??

Don't be overly sensitive people call me he all the time too.

ILoveYourVibes

Raconteuse wrote: »

"Wow" what?

I'm astonished at your behavior.

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He doesn't. Like you would know someone was telling stories about having an Irish friend.

You haven't a clue about what you are talking.

I do. I have Polish and Ukrainian friends too Imagine that!. I also pay attention to what people post. Like when they tell me their gender and where they're from...

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I spoke to you this morning you sure??

I dont remember speaking to you before at all??

Don't be overly sensitive people call me he all the time too.

Oh I'm quite sure. It seems I'm better at remembering what I've said and who I've said it to than you. Is it OK for you to new overly sensitive? Just not anyone else?

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

I do. I have Polish and Ukrainian friends too Imagine that!. I also pay attention to what people post. Like when they tell me their gender and where they're from...

My mother is ukrainian.

I am constantly told what ukraine is like by Irish people.

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

My mother is ukrainian.

I am constantly told what ukraine is like by Irish people.

Not by me you haven't.

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

Oh I'm quite sure. It seems I'm better at remembering what I've said and who I've said it to than you. Is it OK for you to new overly sensitive? Just not anyone else?

Knock yourself out.

Raconteuse

Sardonicat wrote: »

Oh I'm quite sure. It seems I'm better at remembering what I've said and who I've said it to than you. Is it OK for you to new overly sensitive? Just not anyone else?

She's astonished at my behaviour apparently (just for saying that if she dishes it out, people will react in kind).

I know how she feels.

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

Not by me you haven't.

Your friend is incorrect.

AS you can clearly see for yourself.


This is Siberia its winter.

The children look about two and up.

ILoveYourVibes

Raconteuse wrote: »

She's astonished at my behaviour apparently (just for saying that if she dishes it out, people will react in kind).

I know how she feels.

For my part my apologies.

I will try and watch it in future. That's all i can say.

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Your friend is incorrect.

AS you can clearly see for yourself.


This is Siberia its winter.

The children look about two and up.

The rivers are frozen in Siberia in winter

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

The rivers are frozen in Siberia in winter

Not all of it.

Its lake baikal in southern siberia in January (winter).

Not all of siberia freezes over ..its a big place

As you can see its not frozen.

I think your impressions of siberia might be incorrect.

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Not all of it.

Its lake baikal in southern siberia in January (winter).

And are they being punished for ****ting the bed?

ILoveYourVibes

Sardonicat wrote: »

And are they being punished for ****ting the bed?

Perhaps. I don't know why parents bring them specifically.

I don't know all children asked to go or were made to. But they seemed to survive ok.

In the unfrozen lakes of siberia.

ILoveYourVibes

The little girl of the vlogger. She looks like a happy little girl.

And quite well looked after.

Sardonicat

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Perhaps. I don't know why parents bring them specifically.

You do realise you're making a foolong of yourself, don't you?

Anyway, my Dad has finally settled so I can go to sleep at last. Thanks for helping me stay awake, anyeay

Raconteuse

Sardonicat wrote: »

And are they being punished for ****ting the bed?

Punishing a two-year-old for soiling their bed - all i can think of is my two-year-old niece. Horrible - the kid is two. How can they even understand?

Sardonicat

Raconteuse wrote: »

Punishing a two-year-old for soiling their bed - all i can think of is my two-year-old niece. Horrible - the kid is two. How can they even understand?

As long as they 'look' happy....