Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 4:12pm

ohnonotgmail wrote:

Personally i would prefer to keep an opinion as stupid as that to myself but each to their own.

I'm saying there is no proof of either. I stand by that.

Brian? wrote:

The 2 are not comparable. People shared pictures of Michelle Obama comparing her to a chimp, that was way beyond laughing at a haircut

There was. They were terrible. That isn't connected to what we are talking about now though.

p1akuw47h5r3it · 08-08-2019 4:15pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if you cant see the difference between suggesting that somebody is transgender (not just looks like but actually are not and insulting somebodies poor choice in makeup, hair, clothes, and pretty much everything else then there isn't much point talking to you.

Apologies, I see the confusion. I wasn't aware it was said that she actually was, just that she looked like. The two are different as you say. Was this done by the media, or random people on the internet?

biko · 08-08-2019 4:24pm

Overheal wrote: »

You really don’t see the differences here?

Orange man bad?

Is it more subtle, I have to "feel" it?

20Cent · 08-08-2019 4:59pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

There’s a lot more to worry about with regards trump than his makeup.

True its very far down my list pf reasons to dislike him.

Chris_Heilong · 08-08-2019 5:07pm

Somehow we have moved away from the Antifa bad......Antifa good topic and moved onto general politics and political figures getting their feelings hurt over mean words.

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 5:48pm

Chris_Heilong wrote:

Somehow we have moved away from the Antifa bad......Antifa good topic and moved onto general politics and political figures getting their feelings hurt over mean words.

Nope. Still talking about hypocrisy of antifa supporters.

20Cent · 08-08-2019 6:38pm

More trump inspired violence.

MISSOULA, Mont. — The attorney for a Montana man accused of throwing a 13-year-old boy to the ground at a rodeo because the teenager didn’t remove his hat during the national anthem says his client believes he was acting on an order from President Trump.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-07/national-anthem-attack-trump

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 6:42pm

20Cent wrote:

MISSOULA, Mont. â€” The attorney for a Montana man accused of throwing a 13-year-old boy to the ground at a rodeo because the teenager didnâ€™t remove his hat during the national anthem says his client believes he was acting on an order from President Trump.

Definitely. I'm pretty sure I heard trump a report of President Trump ordering people to fracture skulls of 13 year olds who don't take off hats during national anthems.

20Cent · 08-08-2019 6:57pm

Ironicname wrote: »

Definitely. I'm pretty sure I heard trump a report of President Trump ordering people to fracture skulls of 13 year olds who don't take off hats during national anthems.

That's what the attacker says.

His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” attorney Lance Jaspertold The Missoulian. “He certainly didn’t understand [the attack] was a crime.

Trump will probably give him a pardon.

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 7:03pm

20Cent wrote:

His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,â€ attorney Lance Jaspertold The Missoulian. â€œHe certainly didnâ€™t understand [the attack] was a crime.

It sounds like a vicious thug's lawyer is using the left's view on Trump as a spurious reason to receive a lenient sentence.

If trump tries to pardon him, I will be first to vilify him.

20Cent · 08-08-2019 7:10pm

Ironicname wrote: »

It sounds like a vicious thug's lawyer is using the left's view on Trump as a spurious reason to receive a lenient sentence.

If trump tries to pardon him, I will be first to vilify him.

People using trumps own words against him yet again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGezQpJuLbg

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/803567993036754944?s=19

ohnonotgmail · 08-08-2019 7:12pm

20Cent wrote: »

That's what the attacker says.

His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” attorney Lance Jaspertold The Missoulian. “He certainly didn’t understand [the attack] was a crime.

Trump will probably give him a pardon.

Trump can only pardon federal crimes

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 7:14pm

20Cent wrote:

People using trumps own words against him yet again.

Ah right. So not using his words.

I didn't agree with trump for his opposition on that NFL player.

But to say that him saying that the NFL player was should be fired for the taking of the knee is not akin to fracturing a child's skull for not removing a hat.

That is a very tenuous link at best.

20Cent · 08-08-2019 8:27pm

Ironicname wrote: »

Ah right. So not using his words.

I didn't agree with trump for his opposition on that NFL player.

But to say that him saying that the NFL player was should be fired for the taking of the knee is not akin to fracturing a child's skull for not removing a hat.

That is a very tenuous link at best.

Well the guy who did it made the connection.
Kid with the fractured skull might take solace in that.

Overheal · 08-08-2019 9:12pm

Ironicname wrote: »

Nope. Still talking about hypocrisy of antifa supporters.

Pleas explain

20Cent · 08-08-2019 9:31pm

State department suspends staffer over reported ties to white supremacist group

Surprised he didn't get a promotion.

The State Department has suspended a staffer in its energy bureau after the Southern Poverty Law Center reported that he had ties to a white supremacist group.

The SPLC reported:

The official, Matthew Q. Gebert, works as a foreign affairs officer assigned to the Bureau of Energy Resources, a State Department spokesperson told Hatewatch. Online, and in private correspondences with other white nationalists, Gebert uses ‘Coach Finstock’ as a pseudonym. Through that alias, he expressed a desire to build a country for whites only.

‘[Whites] need a country of our own with nukes, and we will retake this thing lickety split,’ ‘Coach Finstock’ said on a May 2018 episode of ‘The Fatherland,’ a white nationalist podcast. ‘That’s all that we need. We need a country founded for white people with a nuclear deterrent. And you watch how the world trembles

biko · 08-08-2019 9:34pm

Why do you keep posting non-antifa posts in this thread?
You understand you can create other threads?

20Cent · 08-08-2019 9:36pm

biko wrote: »

Why do you keep posting non-antifa posts in this thread?
You understand you can create other threads?

You can't really discuss antifa without discussing fa now can ya.

Overheal · 08-08-2019 9:37pm

biko wrote: »

Why do you keep posting non-antifa posts in this thread?
You understand you can create other threads?

Fascists in the administration yo

notobtuse · 08-08-2019 9:54pm

Speaking to reporters at the White House yesterday, Trump said he was 'concerned about the rise of any group of hate' and referred to white supremacists and anti-fascist activists (antifa). He noted… 'Whether it’s any group or kind of hate ... I am concerned about it and I’ll do something about it.'

And on August 17, members of the far-right Proud Boys will meet again in Portland for a rally to “End Domestic Terrorism.” Nearby, antifascists and other counterprotesters will rally against the Proud Boys. The Portland police chief said messages posted online “suggest some attendees plan to engage in violence.” The Proud Boys are stating they will only participate in violence in self-defense. Neither group has a permit to protest. What can go wrong?

20Cent · 08-08-2019 9:54pm

Terrible stories coming out of Mississippi. Hundreds of people dragged away from factories by ICE agents because they don't have the right papers on them. Kids coming home from school to find parents gone.

Beasty · 08-08-2019 9:58pm

My understanding is this thread is about "left-wing" extremists in the US. Please do not cloud the issues by bringing in extremism or other situations from a completely different part of the political spectrum. They have been discussed separately and I am sure will continue to be discussed in other threads

Any questions, please PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

Thanks

20Cent · 08-08-2019 9:59pm

Ok so.
There are no left wing extremists in the US.

/thread.

Danzy · 08-08-2019 10:00pm

20Cent wrote: »

Terrible stories coming out of Mississippi. Hundreds of people dragged away from factories by ICE agents because they don't have the right papers on them. Kids coming home from school to find parents gone.

You do PR work for scab Labour as well?

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 10:10pm

20Cent wrote:

Terrible stories coming out of Mississippi. Hundreds of people dragged away from factories by ICE agents because they don't have the right papers on them. Kids coming home from school to find parents gone.

Could that also be written or read as hundreds of criminals arrested for being illegal?

lawlolawl · 08-08-2019 10:18pm

20Cent wrote: »

Terrible stories coming out of Mississippi. Hundreds of people dragged away from factories by ICE agents because they don't have the right papers on them. Kids coming home from school to find parents gone.

This wouldn't have happened if they were legal immigrants.

Why should we feel any sympathy for criminals?

Ironicname · 08-08-2019 10:30pm

lawlolawl wrote:

Why should we feel any sympathy for criminals?

Because if you think that American border patrol shouldn't tolerate illegal immigrants, you are racist.

Shocking

20Cent · 08-08-2019 10:34pm

Well armed police raiding factories, the brown people are carted away until they can prove they are legal. Over half those arrested were totally legal but didn't have their papers on them so were released later on. Suppose they were just "following orders".
Antifa are needed now more than ever to fight against this fascism.

Ironicname · 09-08-2019 3:58am

20Cent wrote:

Well armed police raiding factories, the brown people are carted away until they can prove they are legal. Over half those arrested were totally legal but didn't have their papers on them so were released later on. Suppose they were just "following orders". Antifa are needed now more than ever to fight against this fascism.

In your mind, poorly armed police should knock on a factory door and ask the workers, (who happen to be brown), if they happen to be legal and just take their word they are legal even though almost half aren't?

Fascists if they don't.

Ironicname · 09-08-2019 4:05am

And fight this fascism?

Should people who break the law not be arrested? Or should they get a pass if they are "brown people" like you were at pains to mention?

If this is why you support antifa or why antifa are needed, then I'm glad I oppose them.

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