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Summer 2019 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    RTE saying a high of 14 for next Monday. Ugh. Why is it that every bloody year I let myself be disappointed by the weather here!! You'd think my thick skull would know by now!

    August strikes again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    lawred2 wrote: »
    August strikes again

    So 5 weeks of not really terrible weather amounts to our summer. God I can't wait to retire...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    So 5 weeks of not really terrible weather amounts to our summer. God I can't wait to retire...

    I'm seriously contemplating whether emigration could work for us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    lawred2 wrote: »
    I'm seriously contemplating whether emigration could work for us

    Do it. This is no way to live!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Some nice sunny spells this evening in Dublin after a blustery day with numerous bouts of showers.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    RTE saying a high of 14 for next Monday. Ugh. Why is it that every bloody year I let myself be disappointed by the weather here!! You'd think my thick skull would know by now!

    If this comes to pass, needless to say that would be way below normal for this time of year. Anyone know what the lowest maximum August temperature record is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    If this comes to pass, needless to say that would be way below normal for this time of year. Anyone know what the lowest maximum August temperature record is?

    -2.7C in Wicklow in 1964, but not sure what hour that was and I doubt it stayed around that for the whole day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    If this comes to pass, needless to say that would be way below normal for this time of year. Anyone know what the lowest maximum August temperature record is?
    August low max records at the following long-term stations.

    Casement Aerodrome; 12.0c on 25 Aug 1986
    Claremorris; 11.7c on 25 Aug 1986
    Cork Apt; 12.1c on 28 Aug 1963
    Mullingar; 11.4c on 25 Aug 1986
    Oak Park; 11.8c on 25 Aug 1986
    Shannon Apt; 13.0c on 23 & 25 Aug 1986

    Can see the vast majority of these were when Ireland was being hit by ex-hurricane Charley in August 1986.

    Data from Met Éireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    New event thread by the way for Thursday/Friday's heavy rainfalls and possible thunderstorms in case you miss: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058003663


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Xenji wrote: »
    -2.7C in Wicklow in 1964, but not sure what hour that was and I doubt it stayed around that for the whole day.

    That was obviously an overnight minumum temperature but thanks for posting it anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭esposito


    Watched the bbc news 24 weather for the week ahead and the outlook is grim. Even the presenter said “this might be a forecast you’d expect in October”

    A strong jet just to the south of us resulting in a conveyor belt of lows coming from the Atlantic. We are on the cool side of the jet too which probably explains the 14c predicted by Met Eireann for next Monday. August delivering utter crap again. No doubt September will be warm and sunny though. Why can’t we have it the other way around for once.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    That was obviously an overnight minumum temperature but thanks for posting it anyway.

    Sorry read it as minimum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    This was the first day this month that failed to breach 20 with a high of 19.1C.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    the next two weeks are very grim indeed, unsettled and temperatures between 1 to 3C below normal, a real feeling of Autumn. Winter Clothes at the ready for next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Cold wind in dublin this morning. Autumn really does start in august in ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Gonzo wrote: »
    the next two weeks are very grim indeed, unsettled and temperatures between 1 to 3C below normal, a real feeling of Autumn. Winter Clothes at the ready for next week.

    Off to Portugal on monday for 10 days. Just in time by the looks of things. So summer clothes still needed for another while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Pretty much expecting 35 C Palm tree beach weather in December and January to make up for what was this..."summer".

    I will hold my breath in anticipation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Where are you located? Not near Dublin / east coast clearly as it’s been a nice summer
    The_Brood wrote: »
    Pretty much expecting 35 C Palm tree beach weather in December and January to make up for what was this..."summer".

    I will hold my breath in anticipation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 A Teddy bear


    I'm trying to think what summer past was the most similar to this summer, 2004 maybe? Anyway it wasn't a bad summer compared to some of the horrible summers from 2008-2012 but most people are disappointed with it because they are comparing it to last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    No of days with a negative NAO readings (at 500hPa) for the last 5 summers:

    wdnEtZT.png

    Keep in mind that the data for the last 4 summers is complete (up to Aug 31st) while data for this year is only up to yesterday the 6th. I have seen seem talk, particularly on UK based outlets) that the mostly -NAO readings this summer night be down to the current ongoing 'Solar Minimum', but having checked, high number of -NAO days in both 2015 and 2016 occurred during a high solar spot output. Having said that, it is notable just lengthy the current -NAO spell is, and is likely to continue up to the middle of the month at least.

    Data sourced from:
    https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/teleconnections.shtml

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    Where are you located? Not near Dublin / east coast clearly as it’s been a nice summer

    It could be 28 degrees and dry, if the skies are mostly grey, I just don't count it as a nice summer. If you thought it was nice then I'm glad you enjoyed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,155 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Seanachai wrote: »
    It could be 28 degrees and dry, if the skies are mostly grey, I just don't count it as a nice summer. If you thought it was nice then I'm glad you enjoyed it.

    I am in Dublin and I didn’t find the sky mostly grey . I really enjoyed July in Dublin , outdoor living , patio door open all day , sun chairs out to sit out and read
    We had a pool out for grandkids and they got lots of days in it . I thought it was a very nice July and even today was unexpectedly pleasant here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Another absolutely gorgeous day in Arklow
    High of 22c
    It feels like a holiday at home again this evening here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    I'm trying to think what summer past was the most similar to this summer, 2004 maybe? Anyway it wasn't a bad summer compared to some of the horrible summers from 2008-2012 but most people are disappointed with it because they are comparing it to last year.

    Don’t see the comparison with 2004 at all. June that year was anticyclonic and very warm up until the final week when it decidedly turned really wet and even stormy at one point. July was quite cool and changeable throughout. August was a very warm but extremely wet month especially in the south and east - the north and west tended to be drier.

    If there’s a close-ish year, it would be 1991. A relatively cool to close to average temperature but very dry May followed by a cool and wet June, mild to warm but dull and mainly dry July. August 1991 began changeable but became very settled and warm later going into September.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Seanachai wrote: »
    It could be 28 degrees and dry, if the skies are mostly grey, I just don't count it as a nice summer. If you thought it was nice then I'm glad you enjoyed it.

    Yeah but it was sunny most days so what’s the problem or must it be constantly sunny?? Even today was meant to be grim and it’s 21 degrees and sunny. Very under rated July in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Yeah but it was sunny most days so what’s the problem or must it be constantly sunny?? Even today was meant to be grim and it’s 21 degrees and sunny. Very under rated July in my opinion

    We're well into August now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 A Teddy bear


    Nothing will ever match Summer 95, last year summer 18 was ruined by a crappy August & September


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Crap day again in Donegal with a constant stream of showers all day and a few torrential downpours thrown in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    July was more overrated than underrated to me. There has been a lot more positive comments on here than negative (which is not usually the case). August 2010 was super underrated, not overly warm but a lot of sunny days and dry weather that you could easily get out and enjoy. I found September 2018 great and ideal unlike September 2016 which I hated. Many sunny days I can recall and Storm Ali was a blast.

    This discussion on Summer 2019 is getting ever more tiresome. Can we just accept that we have different opinions on it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    Yeah but it was sunny most days so what’s the problem or must it be constantly sunny?? Even today was meant to be grim and it’s 21 degrees and sunny. Very under rated July in my opinion

    It was partially overcast most days, there were spells of decent sunshine breaking through from time to time. I was working outdoors last summer and I remember there being more a good bit more clear skies and sunshine hours overall.

    Even when the sun has been out this summer, there's still been too much cloud cover, right now I'm in Dublin and it's dry and warm with some sunshine but there's big dirty clouds rolling across the sky too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I do sometimes wonder why people diss Ireland's weather all the time
    I can understand bad spells and what's been going on in Donegal and to a lesser extent in the coastal counties of the west

    We don't have Bali's climate
    If you want that you may go there and stay there
    You'll soon miss an awful lot of wonderful things about Ireland though
    It does depend what part of Ireland you live but honestly, with few exceptions I've had plenty of nice summer weather here near Arklow in the last couple of decades
    Today was a classic beach day
    Not a drop of rain,a nice tonic ahead of the overnight into friday onslaught


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭odyboody


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I do sometimes wonder why people diss Ireland's weather all the time
    I can understand bad spells and what's been going on in Donegal and to a lesser extent in the coastal counties of the west

    We don't have Bali's climate
    If you want that you may go there and stay there
    You'll soon miss an awful lot of wonderful things about Ireland though
    It does depend what part of Ireland you live but honestly, with few exceptions I've had plenty of nice summer weather here near Arklow in the last couple of decades
    Today was a classic beach day
    Not a drop of rain,a nice tonic ahead of the overnight into friday onslaught

    fully agree, people go to Spain and the continent for a reason, do not expect the same when you come back or stay in Ireland.
    We are having a nice "Irish" summer.
    Last year was very much the exception.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    lawred2 wrote: »
    We're well into August now

    Yeah and it’s still warm and sunny since the start of August bar one day with rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I do sometimes wonder why people diss Ireland's weather all the time
    I can understand bad spells and what's been going on in Donegal and to a lesser extent in the coastal counties of the west

    We don't have Bali's climate
    If you want that you may go there and stay there
    You'll soon miss an awful lot of wonderful things about Ireland though
    It does depend what part of Ireland you live but honestly, with few exceptions I've had plenty of nice summer weather here near Arklow in the last couple of decades
    Today was a classic beach day
    Not a drop of rain,a nice tonic ahead of the overnight into friday onslaught

    There's a huge difference between the weather in Arklow and that in the West or Donegal to be fair.

    I'm in Dublin and think the summer has been OK by Irish standards (somewhat poor by most other country's standards I'd imagine though).

    However I wouldn't be saying that if I were in Galway or Kerry, for example, where it's been far cooler and wetter.

    There'll be lots of heated debate on here come September about how good or bad this year's summer has been but it'll come down to two main things IMO:

    1. Your location, in particular how far East you are. Those in Dublin and Arklow will probably think the summer has been OK.
    2. The value you place on sunshine - some people think mild, dry but cloudy days are perfect, while others will place a far higher value on actual sun shining


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I do sometimes wonder why people diss Ireland's weather all the time
    I can understand bad spells and what's been going on in Donegal and to a lesser extent in the coastal counties of the west

    We don't have Bali's climate
    If you want that you may go there and stay there
    You'll soon miss an awful lot of wonderful things about Ireland though
    It does depend what part of Ireland you live but honestly, with few exceptions I've had plenty of nice summer weather here near Arklow in the last couple of decades
    Today was a classic beach day
    Not a drop of rain,a nice tonic ahead of the overnight into friday onslaught

    I think the west, south west and north west can be very wet but I definitely think the weather in the east and south east of Ireland is under rated. By the way people moan you would swear it rains every day. The reality is different with far more dry days than wet days. I can’t recall more than one day since early July that I got soaked going to or from work


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Mobhi1


    It's been another nice day with partial cloud and sunshine here in Glasnevin. The high was 21.9C. It's currently 20.8C with a lot of clear sky and sunshine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Seanachai wrote: »
    It was partially overcast most days, there were spells of decent sunshine breaking through from time to time. I was working outdoors last summer and I remember there being more a good bit more clear skies and sunshine hours overall.

    Even when the sun has been out this summer, there's still been too much cloud cover, right now I'm in Dublin and it's dry and warm with some sunshine but there's big dirty clouds rolling across the sky too.

    Today has been a grand day to be honest. Second half of May, first half of June and first half of July didn’t offer many days or evenings like this in my locality of Dublin (I’m not asking for peace blue sky days as some on here would assume :rolleyes: ). I’ve been loving August so far with decent amounts of sunshine and daytime temperatures haven’t been doing badly either. Obviously, most of Ireland has been faring very differently though.

    Last summer is not a good comparison because it was exceptional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I'm in the west, and while it is much wetter than over areas, rainfall has come largely in short, intense bursts for most of this Summer. There has been far more dry days than wet ones, and sunnier days and evenings have been far more common than outright dull, overcast ones.. It hasn't been cool either, and any cooler temps have been well offset by the oddly high humidities of this season.

    Experientially, I would class this as a pretty average, if very warm feeling summer overall, with little in the way of any notable day to day difference. But more importantly, and not unlike last year, a below average season for thunderstorms.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    compsys wrote: »
    2. The value you place on sunshine - some people think mild, dry but cloudy days are perfect, while others will place a far higher value on actual sun shining
    I honestly don't get the fascination with sunshine. Nothing like a beautiful, sunny and warm morning for sure, but personally speaking, I find afternoon sunshine to be too harsh and unappealing for my senses.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I honestly don't get the fascination with sunshine. Nothing like a beautiful, sunny and warm morning for sure, but personally speaking, I find afternoon sunshine to be too harsh and unappealing for my senses.
    Like you, I'm very sensitive to sunlight but nevertheless, I still manage to love a good sunny day whatever the season. Usually, I'm in my best mood on sunny days and so are a lot of people that I know. As I said in a post that you quoted, sunshine motivates me to go out and do things I wouldn't otherwise do or places I wouldn't go to. There's just a sense of joy I get that everything's just perfect on a sunny day and a very sunny day is a premium in Ireland so feels extra special to me when we do get one. That's also the reason why I do feel guilty if I waste one like I used to a lot of times but now I try to make the most of them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    A short sharp shower passed through here near Arklow
    First photo is the view through the Davis looking east as it exits out to sea
    2nd is the view to the west


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    today was another great day at Dunshaughlin, plenty of warm sunshine. August has been great so far but I fear it's about to go downhill fast after tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭esposito


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Like you, I'm very sensitive to sunlight but nevertheless, I still manage to love a good sunny day whatever the season. Usually, I'm in my best mood on sunny days and so are a lot of people that I know. As I said in a post that you quoted, sunshine motivates me to go out and do things I wouldn't otherwise do or places I wouldn't go to. There's just a sense of joy I get that everything's just perfect on a sunny day and a very sunny day is a premium in Ireland so feels extra special to me when we do get one. That's also the reason why I do feel guilty if I waste one like I used to a lot of times but now I try to make the most of them.

    And don’t forget the vitamin D that it provides. Sun gives us endorphins making us feel good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Its hardly a mystery why people enjoy sunshine, as well as all the above it just makes the outdoors far more vivid and colourful compared to the usual near monochrome greyness. Everyone and everything just feels more 'alive' on a good sunny day as well.


    Back here, it turned out an alright evening in the end, rain cleared up to leave a calm reasonably bright end to the day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Just back from holidays so just wanted a dry day which I got. Managed to get 4 loads of washing on the line+ dried. The odd rain shower but grand + very pleasant when sun came out.

    For those of you who love thunder storms we had an unreal one on holidays in Lake Garda. Went on for hours + was unreal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭appledrop


    You see it does rain all day occasionally in other places during the summer too although it was accompanied by 29 degree temperatures!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Like you, I'm very sensitive to sunlight but nevertheless, I still manage to love a good sunny day whatever the season. Usually, I'm in my best mood on sunny days and so are a lot of people that I know. As I said in a post that you quoted, sunshine motivates me to go out and do things I wouldn't otherwise do or places I wouldn't go to. There's just a sense of joy I get that everything's just perfect on a sunny day and a very sunny day is a premium in Ireland so feels extra special to me when we do get one. That's also the reason why I do feel guilty if I waste one like I used to a lot of times but now I try to make the most of them.

    California or Spain it is for you so.

    Contrary to yourself, too much sunshine makes me narky and irritable and afternoon sunshine in particular lacks a certain pleasing aesthetic to me. Also contrary to your own observation, I find most people to be more relaxed, mellow and less frivolous during calm, cloudy and dry weather. Perhaps other people are in a better mood during sunshine, but perhaps peculiarly, I couldn't care less about what mood other people are in if they hold no relevance in my life. I realize that sounds s a bit harsh, but really it isn't meant to be.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I honestly don't get the fascination with sunshine. Nothing like a beautiful, sunny and warm morning for sure, but personally speaking, I find afternoon sunshine to be too harsh and unappealing for my senses.

    The biggest issue with the lack of sunshine is in the garden for me, you can nearly tell more about how your summer is going by how certain old standards are blossoming, I nearly had a 5 week hibernation period between the end of June till the last week of July, I had plenty of buds but nothing blossoming due to the majority of days in July being overcast with an hour or so some evenings with good sunshine.

    Then you have the other issue of the quick torrential downpours decimating whats left of what bloomed in the early summer, the 17th of July doing it in about 5 minutes, thankfully though this year even though it has been very humid most days, botrytis has not been an issue like recent years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWN!

    This list I mean! I was offline a few days as my computer died but just more of the same here... working on an ancient one that makes treacle flowing uphill look fast...lost my gmail and cannot connect to my weblog.... ah well

    A gentle, quiet morning out here in the wide Atlantic. Watching the rose hips redden and the blackberries starting to show colour and jam making not too far ahead... Love the changing seasons. They are our bedrock ... whatever they bring they bring. But autumn is special.. Already I cannot take an early walk before 5 am.... So utterly quiet now... Love these early hours...

    All is well. All is happening as it should.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Alot of cloud in Galway...but it looks like the kind of cloud that will burn away very soon..hopefully:cool:


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