Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

I think people are discrediting Russell too much based on how the lower qualifiers performed. The real fact is that Russell was only 0.050s from the Haas in 15th and closer to others above than usual. Also, Russell was 1.2 secs off the 1st place time, with Kubica 2.5secs off 1st place.

I think it's time to realise that finally Williams are making gains. This is a huge step for them, and it's the guts of a second to be fair.

astrofluff wrote: »

I think people are discrediting Russell too much based on how the lower qualifiers performed. The real fact is that Russell was only 0.050s from the Haas in 15th and closer to others above than usual. Also, Russell was 1.2 secs off the 1st place time, with Kubica 2.5secs off 1st place.

I think it's time to realise that finally Williams are making gains. This is a huge step for them, and it's the guts of a second to be fair.

What do you mean people are discrediting Russell? I hear nothing but good things about him from his speed and dedication, to his laid back and up beat manner out of the car. He could be a great but we'll have to wait and see how fast he is against more than one opponent.

I'm optimistic about him, but not willing to get carried away just to make kubica seem better by proxy.

recyclebin wrote: »

Red Bull needs to replace Gasly next season too if they want any chance of constructors or drivers. Max can't do it all on his own. They don't have many better options and it would risky promoting either of the Toro Rosso drivers. Maybe they could take a punt on Bottas. Perez would be another solid number two option if they wanted to go poaching other drivers.

They tend to pick red bull people so vettel or sainz might be in the running. Perez will stay at racing point

chicorytip wrote: »

Dont be at yourself wrote:

Kubica's lack of pace wasn't a worry so long as Russell was P19, but if he's regularly challenging for Q2, it's got to put Kubica under pressure.

Brundle made a point yesterday that Kubica looked to him as not being confident enough to drive the car to it's absolute limit using every available inch of the racetrack - "wringing the neck out of it", as they say. He may improve in this regard. I would keep him and Russell for next year. Williams appears to be on a gradual upward curve and he brings a chunk of money in sponsorship which should not be discounted. The list of potential replacements appears a short one at present.

I think that comment was generally compared to the other drivers in the more sorted cars. More a reflection of the Williams car at the minute than kubica being unable to get the best out of it.
That being said, Kubica has been a terrible disappointment. He is nowhere near on the pace and at this stage. I don't believe he is getting different machinery to Russell either.

Gasly is safe but Marko calls the shots so who knows.

Alban is being pushed bt the UK media,Kvyat would be a surprise promotion while Ticktum is gone and Sainz will not be teamed with Max.

All the effort is going into the Mexican driver Patrice O Ward but he does not have a superlicense.

At this moment I don't see any changes until O Ward has the superlicense

only watching the c4 highlights now.
horner just said red bull is very happy with their MAIN driver. very odd
i cant see how they could be happy with gasly

They cannot really change drivers . If they did it would have to be Kvyat , Albon is good in Toro Rosso just as Gasly was. It would be the same mistake. If they bring Kvyat up they would get more from the Redbull second car outta of him but he would eventually challenge Max at some of the tracks and Redbull do not want that head ache . It gets forgotten but Kvyat put the crap Redbull car on the podium and out scored Daniel Ric in his first season. He is a seriously good driver. Redbull just want Gasly to be a few seconds closer to the front and they may come in the second half of the season. They only need him to run out stop interference and keep the points coming. Summer break might help him.

Bottas and Gasly have surely sealed their fates now.

Impressed by Perez and Sainz. I know Sainz is tied down to McLaren next year, but if I were a top team, I'd definitely be looking at Perez. If McLaren can continue to get their **** together, their future is bright with Sainz and Norris too.

So over halfway through the season and there’s a lot of pressure on bottas, gasly, grojean and kubica. All rightly so imo I think they are all very fortunate to still be in their seats. I can’t quite fathom why some questions aren’t being asked of Antonio Giovinazzi?.
The gap between him and Kimi is huge, Kimi p8 in standings with 31 points and giovinazzi p18 with just 1 point???. Kimi is carrying that team all season despite his age. Imo Kimi doesn’t get enough credit and equally giovinazzi hasn’t impressed me much at all. Ferrari have been a huge disappointment once again with their car that doesn’t suit most circuits and on the ones it did suit they imploded. Mclarens improvement to 4th best team is probably the biggest surprise for me this season, honestly didn’t see the orange cars up there for a few more seasons. Very little to separate the 2 drivers too which is good for them. We need Honda to start upping their game to try and make some sort of a challenge to Mercedes for second half of season, can’t help but think Ferrari might win 1 or 2 races maximum but after preseason hypes they have been thoroughly underwhelming. Hamilton is in a class of his own in the best car with one hand if not 2 already on the tittle. Largely disappointing season so far, reminds me of 2011 season, will probably be remembered for the 1 amazing wet race and a dominant driver running away with title. I just hope I’m wrong.

Gasly is safe because as of July 30th Marko has stated that there will be no changes at Red Bull for this season.

Infoanon wrote: »

Gasly is safe because as of July 30th Marko has stated that there will be no changes at Red Bull for this season.

Hmmmmm, taking Marko at his word...that's brave.

weekaizer wrote:

So over halfway through the season and there’s a lot of pressure on bottas, gasly, grojean and kubica. All rightly so imo I think they are all very fortunate to still be in their seats. I can’t quite fathom why some questions aren’t being asked of Antonio Giovinazzi?. The gap between him and Kimi is huge, Kimi p8 in standings with 31 points and giovinazzi p18 with just 1 point???. Kimi is carrying that team all season despite his age. Imo Kimi doesn’t get enough credit and equally giovinazzi hasn’t impressed me much at all. Ferrari have been a huge disappointment once again with their car that doesn’t suit most circuits and on the ones it did suit they imploded. Mclarens improvement to 4th best team is probably the biggest surprise for me this season, honestly didn’t see the orange cars up there for a few more seasons. Very little to separate the 2 drivers too which is good for them. We need Honda to start upping their game to try and make some sort of a challenge to Mercedes for second half of season, can’t help but think Ferrari might win 1 or 2 races maximum but after preseason hypes they have been thoroughly underwhelming. Hamilton is in a class of his own in the best car with one hand if not 2 already on the tittle. Largely disappointing season so far, reminds me of 2011 season, will probably be remembered for the 1 amazing wet race and a dominant driver running away with title. I just hope I’m wrong.

Kimi is doing just about enough which is what he's been doing for the past six seasons. Leclerc had more points at the same stage last year in an inferior car. Giovinazzi is Ferrari's man and they are hoping he'll come good and lead the team when Raikkonen finishes which could be this year.

cherryghost wrote: »

In a perfect world Gasly, Bottas, Kubica should not be driving in the cars they're in. Gasly likely ousted for Spa, I dont know where Infoanon got that Marko source from, there's multiple interviews just saying he's frustrated at no '2nd Max'. Having no rear gunners to help Max is a real pain in the hole. At least Bottas is there sometimes.

Simple google

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/marko-gasly-red-bull-kvyat/4503923/

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Another sh!t result at the weekend for the Renault Team. I don't think they have a hope in hell of finishing fourth in the Constructors Championship this year.

It is very disappointing from Renault alright. I think they will get it hard to keep fifth this year never mind fourth. They were fourth last year but it looks like they will be fifth or sixth this year. I would say if Daniel Ric had of known that Renault would go backwards this tear he might have stayed at Red Bull.