Second Captains

sydthebeat · 20-07-2019 09:45AM

Just purchased, looking forward to it now

Robert McGrath · 21-07-2019 09:29AM

The interview with Catriona Crowe on their RTÉ show is well worth listen. I never heard of her before but she’s a great guest - smart, funny and interesting. I’d say Ken enjoyed the conversation that continued off air

(Nothing to do with sport, by the way)

Beersmith · 25-07-2019 08:07AM

Mid summer and they are at 11.4K patreon subscribers.

So much for the doom and gloomers predicting they would suffer.

Also that is a lot of money they are making. They each should be getting a salary of over 100k a year!

deisedude · 25-07-2019 09:01AM

Beersmith wrote: »

Mid summer and they are at 11.4K patreon subscribers.

So much for the doom and gloomers predicting they would suffer.

Also that is a lot of money they are making. They each should be getting a salary of over 100k a year!

I'm sure they are doing well financially but doubt they are making that level of profit. Rent, overheads, contributors all cost a lot of money

Hotblack Desiato · 25-07-2019 12:41PM

Plus profits from merchandise, events, and whatever RTE is paying them

Beersmith · 25-07-2019 01:29PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Plus profits from merchandise, events, and whatever RTE is paying them

Plus articles in papers. Some TV.

Well gross would put them around 650,000e a year. Their studio is tiny but add that guest costs and miscellaneous lets say that takes away a generous 150,000e so 500,000e net. That would be 100,000 gross pay each.

corwill · 25-07-2019 02:18PM

With Eoin on de telly with Premier Sports every Saturday in a few weeks time, I wonder at what point might side projects become the main event for one or more the SC gang. IIRC, Eoin did some compere work on Setanta a few years back, and I remember thinking he was very good, and would eventually turn up in such a role on RTE. Of course, I forgot the most vital part of one's resume for a job in RTE, which is a relative (at least one) in RTE.

dulux99 · 25-07-2019 07:04PM

deisedude wrote: »

I'm sure they are doing well financially but doubt they are making that level of profit. Rent, overheads, contributors all cost a lot of money

I've always wondered about contributors. Maybe it's just the noseyness in me but I'd be intrigued to hear what kind of money say, Malachy Clerkin would command for his segment after the golf.

Guffy · 25-07-2019 07:27PM

dulux99 wrote: »

I've always wondered about contributors. Maybe it's just the noseyness in me but I'd be intrigued to hear what kind of money say, Malachy Clerkin would command for his segment after the golf.

Mind your business

terrydel · 26-07-2019 11:24AM

Beersmith wrote: »

Mid summer and they are at 11.4K patreon subscribers.

So much for the doom and gloomers predicting they would suffer.

Also that is a lot of money they are making. They each should be getting a salary of over 100k a year!

What number have they peaked at? To me that seems quite low, certainly I'd guess its a very low percentage of the people who were downloading prior to them going down a subscription model.
Do they fund any of Early's trips abroad for football tournaments or is that paid by his other work? That could be expensive.
100k net is a good salary no doubt, but these days a lot of 9-5ers in IT etc would make that. Wouldnt turn it down myself mind you!

dr.kenneth noisewater · 26-07-2019 11:27AM

terrydel wrote: »

Beersmith wrote: »

Mid summer and they are at 11.4K patreon subscribers.

So much for the doom and gloomers predicting they would suffer.

Also that is a lot of money they are making. They each should be getting a salary of over 100k a year!

What number have they peaked at? To me that seems quite low, certainly I'd guess its a very low percentage of the people who were downloading prior to them going down a subscription model.
Do they fund any of Early's trips abroad for football tournaments or is that paid by his other work? That could be expensive.
100k net is a good salary no doubt, but these days a lot of 9-5ers in IT etc would make that. Wouldnt turn it down myself mind you!

They were below 10K for a good while so seems to be rising. You're never going to match numbers for free shows, there initial aim was 8-10k I think. The IT pay for Ken to head to any matches I think, they did for the WC last year definitely.

kippy · 26-07-2019 02:24PM

terrydel wrote: »

What number have they peaked at? To me that seems quite low, certainly I'd guess its a very low percentage of the people who were downloading prior to them going down a subscription model.
Do they fund any of Early's trips abroad for football tournaments or is that paid by his other work? That could be expensive.
100k net is a good salary no doubt, but these days a lot of 9-5ers in IT etc would make that. Wouldnt turn it down myself mind you!

11.4K sub's is as high as I've seen it.
There are bound to be costs associated with guests and production etc but even a salary or 70 or 80 k a year producing less than 5 hours of content a week while being your own bosses beats the crap outta any 9-5 IT etc role. Fair play to them.

Cienciano · 26-07-2019 02:27PM

That David Epstein one didn't grab my attention. Ended up skipping to the end.

terrydel · 26-07-2019 02:29PM

kippy wrote: »

11.4K sub's is as high as I've seen it.
There are bound to be costs associated with guests and production etc but even a salary or 70 or 80 k a year producing less than 5 hours of content a week while being your own bosses beats the crap outta any 9-5 IT etc role. Fair play to them.

Totally agree.

Baggly · 26-07-2019 02:31PM

kippy wrote: »

11.4K sub's is as high as I've seen it.
There are bound to be costs associated with guests and production etc but even a salary or 70 or 80 k a year producing less than 5 hours of content a week while being your own bosses beats the crap outta any 9-5 IT etc role. Fair play to them.

https://graphtreon.com/creator/secondcaptains

Some of the historical stats and estimated earnings.

heebusjeebus · 26-07-2019 02:49PM

Baggly wrote: »

https://graphtreon.com/creator/secondcaptains

Some of the historical stats and estimated earnings.

A load of sub dropoffs right at the end of the month. Is that a viable way to get around the subscription? Seems like a lot of work for saving €6.

Baggly · 26-07-2019 02:53PM

Not really. Sub is taken out as soon as you reregister.

Id imagine its lapsed credit cards or banking issues.

Cienciano · 26-07-2019 03:56PM

Yeah, I used to listen to a smaller podcast and he was always telling people to update their card details.

One thing I can say is the money I spend on second captains is money well spent. They have been doing this for so long they have it down to a fine art, but no doubt lots of hours are spent behind the scenes.

deisedude · 26-07-2019 04:22PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Yeah, I used to listen to a smaller podcast and he was always telling people to update their card details.

One thing I can say is the money I spend on second captains is money well spent. They have been doing this for so long they have it down to a fine art, but no doubt lots of hours are spent behind the scenes.

They never go home those boys

Brock Turnpike · 26-07-2019 10:36PM

kippy wrote: »

terrydel wrote: »

What number have they peaked at? To me that seems quite low, certainly I'd guess its a very low percentage of the people who were downloading prior to them going down a subscription model.
Do they fund any of Early's trips abroad for football tournaments or is that paid by his other work? That could be expensive.
100k net is a good salary no doubt, but these days a lot of 9-5ers in IT etc would make that. Wouldnt turn it down myself mind you!

11.4K sub's is as high as I've seen it.
There are bound to be costs associated with guests and production etc but even a salary or 70 or 80 k a year producing less than 5 hours of content a week while being your own bosses beats the crap outta any 9-5 IT etc role. Fair play to them.

Completely agree. I'd love it as a job myself.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 26-07-2019 11:23PM

heebusjeebus wrote: »

A load of sub dropoffs right at the end of the month. Is that a viable way to get around the subscription? Seems like a lot of work for saving €6.

I stopped paying when the pods went bad at the start of the summer. Still show in my feed so won’t complain!

Beersmith · 27-07-2019 01:44AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I stopped paying when the pods went bad at the start of the summer. Still show in my feed so won’t complain!

We got a scumbag of the week here

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 27-07-2019 01:56AM

Beersmith wrote: »

We got a scumbag of the week here

I’ll sub again when we get a players chair! Been too long.

corwill · 29-07-2019 09:40PM

The Murph-as-Meath-fan clips still crack me up.

Dots1982 · 30-07-2019 08:33AM

If Ken got an interview with Robbie keane and asked him the questions the daily mail journalist did...actually that just wouldn’t happen so interesting he totally defended the right of the journo to ask questions exclusively about singing, Christmas parties and decade old fights with Edgar Davids.

Murph’s protestations were batted away and unfortunately he lacked the backbone to fight his corner.

Robbie keane always gives the slight impression to me of being a bit of a big time Charlie but couldn’t blame him here.

tomwaits48 · 30-07-2019 08:59AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I stopped paying when the pods went bad at the start of the summer. Still show in my feed so won’t complain!

He's stealing yards, get back, get back, he's stealing yards!!!

deisedude · 30-07-2019 09:32AM

tomwaits48 wrote: »

He's stealing yards, get back, get back, he's stealing yards!!!

Send the dirty git off!

PhilipsR · 30-07-2019 10:03AM

Jesus, Michael Duignan (sp?) says so much but literally says nothing at all.

RedRochey · 30-07-2019 10:12AM

I thought Duignan was terrible yesterday, took everything very seriously and is always on about what he said or thought the last week, on about how he said Noel McGrath would be key this weekend and then he got man of the match, as if he needs to validate his analysis

corwill · 30-07-2019 11:33AM

PhilipsR wrote: »

Jesus, Michael Duignan (sp?) says so much but literally says nothing at all.

As bad and all as he was, not as bad as McGrath and O'Cusack on the Sunday Game, talking complete squirt about sweepers. Apparently you're a Tan if you question the efficacy of the sweeper system, according to Donal Og.

But yeah, Duignan was as awful as ever. Who do you go to for decent hurling analysis in this country? It feels like everyone who might have something to offer is terrified of being the class swot.

Brian Hogan persisting with the auld nonsense that Cody and KK would never stoop so low as to soil themselves with tactics (spit), before giving a fairly detailed tactical breakdown of how he played for KK. Why this pathological horror at the suggestion that a great hurling team would tailor their play to exploit an opponent's weakness? So, so strange.

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