Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

Gatling · 11-07-2019 1:04am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I noticed lot of activity in air today around the Persian Gulf and felt something was up,

Lol

Gatling · 11-07-2019 1:08am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It was not a Triton drone. It was RQ4 Drone. MQ-4C is a Triton.

RQ4 can fly 400+ mph and some drones can fly faster.

Too easy ....

The Pentagon confirmed early this morning that an unmanned U.S. aircraft, a MQ-4 Triton, was shot down by Iranian military forces. The Pentagon described the shootdown, which it says took place over international waters, as an “unprovoked attack.” The MQ-4 is one of the largest, most sophisticated, and most expensive drones in the U.S. arsenal.

In a statement issued to the press, U.S. Central Command "U.S. Central Command can confirm that a U.S. Navy Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (or BAMS-D) ISR aircraft was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz at approximately 11:35 p.m. GMT on June 19, 2019.”

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-07-2019 1:09am

Gatling wrote: »

Too easy ....

The Pentagon confirmed early this morning that an unmanned U.S. aircraft, a MQ-4 Triton, was shot down by Iranian military forces. The Pentagon described the shootdown, which it says took place over international waters, as an “unprovoked attack.” The MQ-4 is one of the largest, most sophisticated, and most expensive drones in the U.S. arsenal.

In a statement issued to the press, U.S. Central Command "U.S. Central Command can confirm that a U.S. Navy Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (or BAMS-D) ISR aircraft was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz at approximately 11:35 p.m. GMT on June 19, 2019.”

A false report.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/20/us/rq4a-global-hawk-drone-intl/index.html

Gatling · 11-07-2019 1:11am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It was not a Triton drone. It was RQ4 Drone. MQ-4C is a Triton.

RQ4 can fly 400+ mph and some drones can fly faster.

I never said the frame was stealth, i said it has capabilities to jam signals and go dark off radar. Even the Iranians said it went stealth mode when left base and entered Iranian territory.

The Houtis are launching them from Yemen hundreds of miles away.

The Pentagon confirmed early this morning that an unmanned U.S. aircraft, a MQ-4 Triton, was shot down by Iranian military forces. The Pentagon described the shootdown, which it says took place over international waters, as an “unprovoked attack.” The MQ-4 is one of the largest, most sophisticated, and most expensive drones in the U.S. arsenal.

In a statement issued to the press, U.S. Central Command "U.S. Central Command can confirm that a U.S. Navy Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (or BAMS-D) ISR aircraft was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz at approximately 11:35 p.m. GMT on June 19, 2019.”

Houti drones are only flying about 90 miles if.even that

Fact check.

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-07-2019 1:15am

Gatling wrote: »

The Pentagon confirmed early this morning that an unmanned U.S. aircraft, a MQ-4 Triton, was shot down by Iranian military forces. The Pentagon described the shootdown, which it says took place over international waters, as an “unprovoked attack.” The MQ-4 is one of the largest, most sophisticated, and most expensive drones in the U.S. arsenal.

In a statement issued to the press, U.S. Central Command "U.S. Central Command can confirm that a U.S. Navy Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (or BAMS-D) ISR aircraft was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz at approximately 11:35 p.m. GMT on June 19, 2019.”

Houti drones are only flying about 90 miles if.even that

Fact check.

On June 20, 2019, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps's (IRGC) shot down a United States RQ-4A Global Hawk BAMS-D surveillance drone[2][3][4] with a surface-to-air missile over the Strait of Hormuz.[5][6][7][8][9] Iranian officials claimed that the drone violated their airspace, while U.S. officials claimed that the drone was in international airspace.[1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Iranian_shoot-down_of_American_drone

ArchXStanton · 11-07-2019 1:18am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

On June 20, 2019, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps's (IRGC) shot down a United States RQ-4A Global Hawk BAMS-D surveillance drone[2][3][4] with a surface-to-air missile over the Strait of Hormuz.[5][6][7][8][9] Iranian officials claimed that the drone violated their airspace, while U.S. officials claimed that the drone was in international airspace.[1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Iranian_shoot-down_of_American_drone

Of course it was in Iranian airspace hence no reprisal from the US, just some bull**** excuse about sparing 150 lives to save face... And a good PR stunt

specky4eyes · 11-07-2019 2:47am

Gatling wrote: »

Too easy ....

Oh dear.:rolleyes:

Gatling · 11-07-2019 8:34am

So the Iranian navy boats try to force a British registered tanker in to their waters so they can board and sieze in an attempted act of piracy .

Which they deniying any involvement .

But Iran you told us you's would do it publicly

The Late Late Show · 11-07-2019 1:50pm

We kicked imperialism out of Dublin in the 1920s. Now it is time for Iran to kick imperialism out of the Middle East. Sad fact is the same evil Western imperialism that existed 100 years ago is still trying to rule the world by bullying it.

Gatling · 11-07-2019 2:47pm

British flagged vessels put on heightened security

http://news.sky.com/story/uk-ships-in-strait-of-hormuz-put-on-heightened-security-11761052

Atlantic Dawn · 11-07-2019 10:24pm

Gatling wrote: »

So the Iranian navy boats try to force a British registered tanker in to their waters so they can board and sieze in an attempted act of piracy .

Which they deniying any involvement .

But Iran you told us you's would do it publicly

And we are supposed to believe this actually happened, where is the evidence? That amount of satellite coverage and drone footage they would have available and somehow didn't capture, more fake news at Mr T would say. Not to mention opportunites crew on the tanker would have had to record it using their mobile phones.

BoJack Horseman · 11-07-2019 11:35pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

i said it has capabilities to jam signals and go dark off radar.

No.
It doesn't carry any E/W system or defensive aids.

Its got the wingspan of a 737.... its RCS is quite large

There is no such thing as "going dark" off radar!
It isn't Nick Fury's helicarrier in the Avengers!

The Late Late Show · 11-07-2019 11:42pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And we are supposed to believe this actually happened, where is the evidence? That amount of satellite coverage and drone footage they would have available and somehow didn't capture, more fake news at Mr T would say. Not to mention opportunites crew on the tanker would have had to record it using their mobile phones.

99% of this drivel never happens and the 1% that does is exaggerated. Since 9th April 2018, unapologetic Western imperialism is back and doesn't even try to hide what they are at. The buffoonish Bolton regime will end up badly in the end and if this banker Madoff can spend the rest of his days in prison, Bolton and anyone who helps Bolton should get the same punishment. What they are at is 100% unneeded and is evil. What has this evil regime got on Trump??? If that was revealed, we can add extortion of a president to the list of crimes and make sure Bolton spends as long as possible where he belongs: in prison.

Just fresh from watching The Handmaid's Tale and Gilead. I apologise for comparing Bolton to Gilead in the past. That is an insult to Gilead!!!!!

The Late Late Show · 11-07-2019 11:59pm

Gatling wrote: »

British flagged vessels put on heightened security

http://news.sky.com/story/uk-ships-in-strait-of-hormuz-put-on-heightened-security-11761052

The British need security from Bolton's regime pretending to be Iranians. The Boris Johnson type of Brit though is so into past imperialist glories they cannot see they are being played by the Bolton regime's current attempts at reactionary imperialism.

Atlantic Dawn · 12-07-2019 12:34am

Last week ITV reported that the Iranian tanker the British seized off Gibraltar went around Africa to avoid checks in the Middle East, it's a Suez Max tanker so no other possible way for it to get to Syria, pure thrash unquestioned media...or fake news.

Gatling · 12-07-2019 12:51am

The Late Late Show wrote: »

The British need

Maybe cancel your tv subscriptions and get some fresh air

Gatling · 12-07-2019 1:06am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Last week ITV reported that the Iranian tanker the British seized off Gibraltar went around Africa to avoid checks in the Middle East, it's a Suez Max tanker so no other possible way for it to get to Syria, pure thrash unquestioned media...or fake news.

So explain the need to ship 2 million barrels of crude around Africa to get to Syria when there is multiple crude pipelines in the region,

Oddly enough Israeli forces intercepted multiple vessels carrying weapons (via Iran for hamas) over the years on the same or similar route around Africa

The Late Late Show · 12-07-2019 4:49am

Gatling wrote: »

Maybe cancel your tv subscriptions and get some fresh air

The ONLY TV subscriptions worth cancelling is all this fake news. All these fake crises set up by crooked imperialist powers that further their agendas and keep the news 'interesting' for the big TV channels. People need to wake up and see they are being played for fools. I'll provide the news and you show the pictures in other words. This mass media is big business and these fake crises keep them in material. John Bolton, American dictator, is of course an ex media man himself before he took over America on 9th April 2018. He predecessor Trump was also in the media.

Elmer Blooker · 12-07-2019 2:33pm

Whats new LLS. Fake news, Russian 'interference' in elections can be traced back as far as 1924!
Then a forged letter known as the 'Zinoviev letter' was published by the Daily Mail four days before the 1924 General Election alleging that the Soviets were 'interfering' to get the Labour Party into power, needless to say the public fell for it (as always) and the Conservatives won the 1924 election!

Cheerful Spring2 · 12-07-2019 3:15pm

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

No.
It doesn't carry any E/W system or defensive aids.

Its got the wingspan of a 737.... its RCS is quite large

There is no such thing as "going dark" off radar!
It isn't Nick Fury's helicarrier in the Avengers!

Not true RQ4 drone has radar warning reciever build in and will warn the operators of the drone a missile is approaching. The drone also has ALR-89 radar self defence jamming system. For whatever reason it failed to work or was just ineffective here or it was the intention here to have it shot down, a possibility?

True, its a big drone.

What i mean by went dark of radar. It turned off all identifications markers like its transponder and other modes. It essentially was just a UFO on screen, and when the Iranians spotted it was a dot/ blip in the sky. The drone may have dropped in and out of radar coverage. The Iranians were tracking a UFO and shot it down.

Cheerful Spring2 · 12-07-2019 3:25pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And we are supposed to believe this actually happened, where is the evidence? That amount of satellite coverage and drone footage they would have available and somehow didn't capture, more fake news at Mr T would say. Not to mention opportunites crew on the tanker would have had to record it using their mobile phones.

Yes be skeptical of US and UK claims. There trying to build a martime force to patrol the Persian gulf. I would not be surprised if this is fake news. The Iranians have denied this incident.

If it happened they have photos and video so far nothing got released.

Gatling · 12-07-2019 3:40pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Not true RQ4 drone has radar warning reciever build in and will warn the operators of the drone a missile is approaching. The drone also has ALR-89 radar self defence jamming system. For whatever reason it failed to work

What i mean by went dark of radar. It turned off all identifications markers like its transponder and other modes. It essentially was just a UFO on screen, and when the Iranians spotted it was a dot/ blip in the sky. The drone may have dropped in and out of radar coverage. The Iranians were tracking a UFO and shot it down.

Your making this all up literally .

A slow moving drone was shot down by a missile flying at likely flying in excess of Mach 1 that's all Iran said they had tracked the drone either a Triton or global hawk in their own statements.

Your now cliaming UFO !!!

If you don't know don't make exaggerated claims

Jimmy Garlic · 12-07-2019 3:52pm

Gatling wrote: »

So explain the need to ship 2 million barrels of crude around Africa to get to Syria when there is multiple crude pipelines in the region,

Oddly enough Israeli forces intercepted multiple vessels carrying weapons (via Iran for hamas) over the years on the same or similar route around Africa

What's good for the goose is good fo the gander. Don't Israel and Saudi Arabia get copious amounts of weapons shipped to them, one is an undeclared nuclear rouge state and the other is a feudal kingdom that llikes to chop people up, literally.

Gatling · 12-07-2019 4:29pm

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

What's good for the goose is good fo the gander. Don't Israel and Saudi Arabia get copious amounts of weapons shipped to them

Both legitimate sovereign states buying weapons systems for self defense Vs rouge state supplying terrorist organisations .

Didn't think this one through

Remind us about Iran and hamas or do you not know anything about either .
Only so much saudi chop people up posts you can make

specky4eyes · 13-07-2019 2:33am

Gatling wrote: »

Your making this all up literally .

A slow moving drone was shot down by a missile flying at likely flying in excess of Mach 1 that's all Iran said they had tracked the drone either a Triton or global hawk in their own statements.

Your now cliaming UFO !!!

If you don't know don't make exaggerated claims

If there was a back peddling tour de France I'd put my money on you.

Nobody is claiming Iran thought there were aliens, anything that flies and is unidentifiable is commonly known as an unidentified flying object or UFO

Gatling · 13-07-2019 2:55am

specky4eyes wrote: »

Nobody is claiming Iran thought there were aliens

Who said anything about aliens serious read first !!!!!

Try a new account

Jimmy Garlic · 13-07-2019 11:48am

Gatling wrote: »

Both legitimate sovereign states buying weapons systems for self defense Vs rouge state supplying terrorist organisations .

Didn't think this one through

Remind us about Iran and hamas or do you not know anything about either .
Only so much saudi chop people up posts you can make

Glaring hypocrisy from you Gatling. Double standards are the norm from the do as we say, not as we do crowd. Saudi Arabia is the largest state sponsor of terrorists in the region by a long shot. Israel is not shy either when it comes to supporting terrorists, they even set field hospitals to treat them. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Gatling · 13-07-2019 12:05pm

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Glaring hypocrisy from you Gatling. Double standards are the norm from the do as we say,

Again your clearly wrong .

Your equating a supplying terrorists to sovereign states buying military equipment .

We all know you don't like (hate) America ,Saudi and isreal

Gatling · 13-07-2019 12:16pm

Any how

"The leader of Lebanon's Hezbollah has warned that Iran "is able to bombard Israel with ferocity and force" if a war breaks out with the United States.

Sayed Hassan Nasrallah's remarks were broadcast on the movement's Al-Manar television on Friday, following weeks of increasing tensions between the United States and Iran.

"When the Americans understand that this war could wipe out Israel, they will reconsider," Nasrallah said.

"Our collective responsibility in the region is to work towards preventing an American war on Iran."

He said neither Saudi Arabia nor the United Arab Emirates (UAE) had any interest in conflict.

On Friday, the US House of Representatives voted to restrict Trump's ability to attack Iran, voicing fear that his hawkish policies are pushing towards a needless war.

The US considers Hezbollah - the only faction not to have disarmed after the Lebanese 1975-1990 civil war - a "terrorist" organisation.

But it is also a major political player in the small Mediterranean country, taking 13 seats in parliament last year and securing three posts in the current cabinet"

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/hezbollah-warns-iran-bombard-israel-war-starts-190713062845782.html

Considering Israel apparently flew jets into Iran including over Tehran unimpeded and undetected making threats to the one state in the region that would hit Iran it's not the smartest move to make under heightened tensions

specky4eyes · 13-07-2019 2:35pm

Gatling wrote: »

So explain the need to ship 2 million barrels of crude around Africa to get to Syria when there is multiple crude pipelines in the region.

If you had the slightest clue of what is going on you wouldn't be wouldn't be asking stupid ignorant questions.

The US-backed SDF control Syria’s largest oil field in Al-Omar in the eastern province of Deir Ezzor, as well as the nearby Tanak and Jafra fields.

They also hold the Rmeilan field in the northeastern province of Hassakeh, as well as other smaller ones there and in the northern province of Raqa.

The Russia-backed regime, meanwhile, holds the country’s largest gas field in Shaer, as well as those of Sadad and Arak.

Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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