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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Karl8415


    duskyjoe wrote: »
    An incredible senior lady

    Absolutely,she brought me to lax back in 2000 and I can say it did not miss a heart beat for the near 11 hours, just wondering though seeing that EI own her outright would there be any argument for example to have it undergo a heavy maintenance check to prolong its service for few years once the new birds arrive and use it for a backup frame or even look to increase capacity on other routes like the canaries for example


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭alancostello


    Karl8415 wrote: »
    Absolutely,she brought me to lax back in 2000 and I can say it did not miss a heart beat for the near 11 hours, just wondering though seeing that EI own her outright would there be any argument for example to have it undergo a heavy maintenance check to prolong its service for few years once the new birds arrive and use it for a backup frame or even look to increase capacity on other routes like the canaries for example

    Most frames from that era are still active, with very few A330s in total having been scrapped. However, years of the SNN stopover may have her and EI-EWR sitting at higher cycles than other A330s, and Aer Lingus has some of the highest fleet utilisation for A330s so they're probably sitting pretty high on hours too. They'll do their cost/benefit analysis but she may be coming near some major overhaul work when younger aircraft are available cheaply on lease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    EI announced their new 2019 transatlantic routes to Minneapolis and Montreal in early Sep last year. While Montreal got postponed till next year does anyone know will we be expecting their 2020 new transatlantic routes announcement around the same time this year? I'm really eager to know which cities they'll select next!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    ongarboy wrote: »
    EI announced their new 2019 transatlantic routes to Minneapolis and Montreal in early Sep last year. While Montreal got postponed till next year does anyone know will we be expecting their 2020 new transatlantic routes announcement around the same time this year? I'm really eager to know which cities they'll select next!

    Who said they'll be announcing new TA routes every year? Has it become an official annual unveiling?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,074 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Who said they'll be announcing new TA routes every year? Has it become an official annual unveiling?

    Pretty much. EI are taking 2 new widebodies and 4 A321LRs before Summer 2020. That adds up to greatly increased frequency on existing routes or new routes in 2020. (1st 4 A321LRs are replacing the B757s)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭Karl8415


    Most frames from that era are still active, with very few A330s in total having been scrapped. However, years of the SNN stopover may have her and EI-EWR sitting at higher cycles than other A330s, and Aer Lingus has some of the highest fleet utilisation for A330s so they're probably sitting pretty high on hours too. They'll do their cost/benefit analysis but she may be coming near some major overhaul work when younger aircraft are available cheaply on lease.[/quote

    Thank you for that Alan I appreciate it,I understand what your saying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    FR wasn’t able to track LAX to LAX today for some reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    joeysoap wrote: »
    FR wasn’t able to track LAX to LAX today for some reason

    It's after midnight and landed so shows up yesterday (Saturday)

    Tracked it fine. I watched her go earlier and clicked in when she was over Greenland out of curiosity.

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei145#21168669


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Pete2k


    Anyone know why EI134 from Boston to Shannon was cancelled?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭adam88


    ohigg84 wrote: »
    I really hope that when LAX is retired, she is put into a museum.
    She has done worthy service for EI for over 2 decades, and is still a great aircraft!


    LAX has been a fantastic asset to the EI fleet over the years!

    I presume it’s owned outright. Must be making big bucks for them vs new aircraft and leasing payments


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,488 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Pete2k wrote: »
    Anyone know why EI134 from Boston to Shannon was cancelled?

    This morning? It wasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭ohigg84


    Karl8415 wrote: »
    Absolutely,she brought me to lax back in 2000 and I can say it did not miss a heart beat for the near 11 hours, just wondering though seeing that EI own her outright would there be any argument for example to have it undergo a heavy maintenance check to prolong its service for few years once the new birds arrive and use it for a backup frame or even look to increase capacity on other routes like the canaries for example


    It's an incredible aircraft, and it is impeccably maintained!


    My family also flew on LAX to LAX in 2000, we actually went on holidays twice that year, and we also flew on a brand new EWR to LAX too!


    My dad flew back from Miami on LAX earlier this year, and he was so impressed with her.


    He works in flight ops, and was talking to the crew, even the crew were so impressed with LAX!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Pete2k


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    This morning? It wasn't.

    It was. The flight due into shannon at 6.20 this morning never left boston. Had friends on it who were rescheduled to Mondays flight. And clearly stated on shannon airport arrivals page flight cancelled, contact airline.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    EI-CJX flew from Shannon to Boston last night but flew as EIN992P - no pax onboard with that callsign. It arrived in Shannon in line with the flight which is odd.

    EI-CJX always causes errors on FR24 - FR24 shows it as flying with callsign EIN1HL (the standard EI135 callsign) but it did not have this callsign in reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭liiga


    Is the A321neo going to fly on the Amsterdam route at some point ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,002 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    marno21 wrote: »
    EI-CJX flew from Shannon to Boston last night but flew as EIN992P - no pax onboard with that callsign. It arrived in Shannon in line with the flight which is odd.

    EI-CJX always causes errors on FR24 - FR24 shows it as flying with callsign EIN1HL (the standard EI135 callsign) but it did not have this callsign in reality.

    Off topic but what is the history that has call signs different to flight numbers? Seems overly complicated to me but I guess there was logic?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Lapmo_Dancer


    I’d guess a sick cabin crew as EI operates their 757s with 4 cabin crew (legal minimum)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    Off topic but what is the history that has call signs different to flight numbers? Seems overly complicated to me but I guess there was logic?

    EI use alphanumeric callsigns on most of their routes with a few exceptions

    My guess, especially with the transatlantics, is with a lot of similar flight numbers flying together it aids clarity by using alphanumeric callsigns rather than just the numbers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Pete2k


    marno21 wrote: »
    EI-CJX flew from Shannon to Boston last night but flew as EIN992P - no pax onboard with that callsign. It arrived in Shannon in line with the flight which is odd.

    EI-CJX always causes errors on FR24 - FR24 shows it as flying with callsign EIN1HL (the standard EI135 callsign) but it did not have this callsign in reality.

    They're being evasive on twitter stating operational reasons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭Shamrockj


    Pete2k wrote: »
    They're being evasive on twitter stating operational reasons

    I'm guessing sickness as well. It can't fly with passengers if anyone gets sick on the 757


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    Pete2k wrote: »
    They're being evasive on twitter stating operational reasons

    To be fair i don't think many airlines would give out such info to random strangers on a public platform


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Pete2k


    1123heavy wrote: »
    To be fair i don't think many airlines would give out such info to random strangers on a public platform

    A few yrs ago they gave me the same line at the time. They were a lot more specific when a CAR complaint was filed after they ignored a 261 claim. I'm sure they will be again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭HTCOne


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    Off topic but what is the history that has call signs different to flight numbers? Seems overly complicated to me but I guess there was logic?


    Marno is correct. Airlines regularly change the callsign on a route at the request of ATC or their own crew if that callsign is causing confusion. Aircraft taking each other’s squawks, clearances etc due callsign confusion is a fairly regular and potentially catastrophic occurrence.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    HTCOne wrote: »
    Marno is correct. Airlines regularly change the callsign on a route at the request of ATC or their own crew if that callsign is causing confusion. Aircraft taking each other’s squawks, clearances etc due callsign confusion is a fairly regular and potentially catastrophic occurrence.

    An example with two similar callsigns both taking off at once

    https://youtu.be/b26NcJCLZl4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭basill


    marno21 wrote: »
    EI use alphanumeric callsigns on most of their routes with a few exceptions

    My guess, especially with the transatlantics, is with a lot of similar flight numbers flying together it aids clarity by using alphanumeric callsigns rather than just the numbers




    https://www.eurocontrol.int/service/call-sign-similarity-service

    Its a pain in the hoop. Some of the callsigns that we have been getting over the past few years are real tongue twisters and after a long day it can become tiresome.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Shamrockj wrote: »
    I'm guessing sickness as well. It can't fly with passengers if anyone gets sick on the 757

    My family were due to fly back on the flight. My sister was told it was due to a strike but I couldn’t find anything about anything on google. The email arrived at 15:45 our time for the flight that was leaving Boston at 19:30 (their time). All the email said was flight disruption.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,267 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    That looked bad on news. Could they not have found a plane somewhere to fly to Lisbon, it’s not that far away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭mikel97


    And MORE disruption with the little old 737 they use to the faros from the belfast city. All cancelled today malage/faros.
    Anyone get any informations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭Shamrockj


    My family were due to fly back on the flight. My sister was told it was due to a strike but I couldn’t find anything about anything on google. The email arrived at 15:45 our time for the flight that was leaving Boston at 19:30 (their time). All the email said was flight disruption.

    It was due to crew sickness

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/aer-lingus-apologise-to-passengers-after-plane-forced-to-take-off-and-fly-to-shannon-without-them-934005.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    Assuming it was 1 crew member out, that would have left them with 3. For every 50 passengers you need 1 crew, why couldn't they operate with 3 crew and allow 150 passengers on board and drastically reduce the number of affected passengers ?


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