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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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The seat map for the B767-200 being leased by EI next year are available on the Aer Lingus website, the seating is 2,3,2 in economy (As was suspected) and 2,2,2 in business

There are 189 economy seats and 12 Business seats making a total of the reported 201 seats.

Anyone know whether the B767 will be repainted, partially or entirely, in the EI colours for the 6 months that its leased for?

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Karl8415

duskyjoe wrote: »

An incredible senior lady

Absolutely,she brought me to lax back in 2000 and I can say it did not miss a heart beat for the near 11 hours, just wondering though seeing that EI own her outright would there be any argument for example to have it undergo a heavy maintenance check to prolong its service for few years once the new birds arrive and use it for a backup frame or even look to increase capacity on other routes like the canaries for example

alancostello

Karl8415 wrote: »

Absolutely,she brought me to lax back in 2000 and I can say it did not miss a heart beat for the near 11 hours, just wondering though seeing that EI own her outright would there be any argument for example to have it undergo a heavy maintenance check to prolong its service for few years once the new birds arrive and use it for a backup frame or even look to increase capacity on other routes like the canaries for example

Most frames from that era are still active, with very few A330s in total having been scrapped. However, years of the SNN stopover may have her and EI-EWR sitting at higher cycles than other A330s, and Aer Lingus has some of the highest fleet utilisation for A330s so they're probably sitting pretty high on hours too. They'll do their cost/benefit analysis but she may be coming near some major overhaul work when younger aircraft are available cheaply on lease.

ongarboy

EI announced their new 2019 transatlantic routes to Minneapolis and Montreal in early Sep last year. While Montreal got postponed till next year does anyone know will we be expecting their 2020 new transatlantic routes announcement around the same time this year? I'm really eager to know which cities they'll select next!

1123heavy

ongarboy wrote: »

EI announced their new 2019 transatlantic routes to Minneapolis and Montreal in early Sep last year. While Montreal got postponed till next year does anyone know will we be expecting their 2020 new transatlantic routes announcement around the same time this year? I'm really eager to know which cities they'll select next!

Who said they'll be announcing new TA routes every year? Has it become an official annual unveiling?

Tenger

1123heavy wrote: »

Who said they'll be announcing new TA routes every year? Has it become an official annual unveiling?

Pretty much. EI are taking 2 new widebodies and 4 A321LRs before Summer 2020. That adds up to greatly increased frequency on existing routes or new routes in 2020. (1st 4 A321LRs are replacing the B757s)

Karl8415

alancostello wrote: »

Most frames from that era are still active, with very few A330s in total having been scrapped. However, years of the SNN stopover may have her and EI-EWR sitting at higher cycles than other A330s, and Aer Lingus has some of the highest fleet utilisation for A330s so they're probably sitting pretty high on hours too. They'll do their cost/benefit analysis but she may be coming near some major overhaul work when younger aircraft are available cheaply on lease.[/quote

Thank you for that Alan I appreciate it,I understand what your saying

joeysoap

FR wasn’t able to track LAX to LAX today for some reason

sdanseo

joeysoap wrote: »

FR wasn’t able to track LAX to LAX today for some reason

It's after midnight and landed so shows up yesterday (Saturday)

Tracked it fine. I watched her go earlier and clicked in when she was over Greenland out of curiosity.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ei145#21168669

Pete2k

Anyone know why EI134 from Boston to Shannon was cancelled?

adam88

ohigg84 wrote: »

I really hope that when LAX is retired, she is put into a museum.
She has done worthy service for EI for over 2 decades, and is still a great aircraft!

LAX has been a fantastic asset to the EI fleet over the years!

I presume it’s owned outright. Must be making big bucks for them vs new aircraft and leasing payments

JCX BXC

Pete2k wrote: »

Anyone know why EI134 from Boston to Shannon was cancelled?

This morning? It wasn't.

ohigg84

Karl8415 wrote: »

Absolutely,she brought me to lax back in 2000 and I can say it did not miss a heart beat for the near 11 hours, just wondering though seeing that EI own her outright would there be any argument for example to have it undergo a heavy maintenance check to prolong its service for few years once the new birds arrive and use it for a backup frame or even look to increase capacity on other routes like the canaries for example

It's an incredible aircraft, and it is impeccably maintained!

My family also flew on LAX to LAX in 2000, we actually went on holidays twice that year, and we also flew on a brand new EWR to LAX too!

My dad flew back from Miami on LAX earlier this year, and he was so impressed with her.

He works in flight ops, and was talking to the crew, even the crew were so impressed with LAX!

Pete2k

JCX BXC wrote: »

This morning? It wasn't.

It was. The flight due into shannon at 6.20 this morning never left boston. Had friends on it who were rescheduled to Mondays flight. And clearly stated on shannon airport arrivals page flight cancelled, contact airline.

marno21

EI-CJX flew from Shannon to Boston last night but flew as EIN992P - no pax onboard with that callsign. It arrived in Shannon in line with the flight which is odd.

EI-CJX always causes errors on FR24 - FR24 shows it as flying with callsign EIN1HL (the standard EI135 callsign) but it did not have this callsign in reality.

liiga

Is the A321neo going to fly on the Amsterdam route at some point ?

Van.Bosch

marno21 wrote: »

EI-CJX flew from Shannon to Boston last night but flew as EIN992P - no pax onboard with that callsign. It arrived in Shannon in line with the flight which is odd.

EI-CJX always causes errors on FR24 - FR24 shows it as flying with callsign EIN1HL (the standard EI135 callsign) but it did not have this callsign in reality.

Off topic but what is the history that has call signs different to flight numbers? Seems overly complicated to me but I guess there was logic?

Lapmo_Dancer

I’d guess a sick cabin crew as EI operates their 757s with 4 cabin crew (legal minimum)

marno21

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Off topic but what is the history that has call signs different to flight numbers? Seems overly complicated to me but I guess there was logic?

EI use alphanumeric callsigns on most of their routes with a few exceptions

My guess, especially with the transatlantics, is with a lot of similar flight numbers flying together it aids clarity by using alphanumeric callsigns rather than just the numbers

Pete2k

marno21 wrote: »

EI-CJX flew from Shannon to Boston last night but flew as EIN992P - no pax onboard with that callsign. It arrived in Shannon in line with the flight which is odd.

EI-CJX always causes errors on FR24 - FR24 shows it as flying with callsign EIN1HL (the standard EI135 callsign) but it did not have this callsign in reality.

They're being evasive on twitter stating operational reasons

Shamrockj

Pete2k wrote: »

They're being evasive on twitter stating operational reasons

I'm guessing sickness as well. It can't fly with passengers if anyone gets sick on the 757

1123heavy

Pete2k wrote: »

They're being evasive on twitter stating operational reasons

To be fair i don't think many airlines would give out such info to random strangers on a public platform

Pete2k

1123heavy wrote: »

To be fair i don't think many airlines would give out such info to random strangers on a public platform

A few yrs ago they gave me the same line at the time. They were a lot more specific when a CAR complaint was filed after they ignored a 261 claim. I'm sure they will be again.

HTCOne

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Off topic but what is the history that has call signs different to flight numbers? Seems overly complicated to me but I guess there was logic?

Marno is correct. Airlines regularly change the callsign on a route at the request of ATC or their own crew if that callsign is causing confusion. Aircraft taking each other’s squawks, clearances etc due callsign confusion is a fairly regular and potentially catastrophic occurrence.

marno21

HTCOne wrote: »

Marno is correct. Airlines regularly change the callsign on a route at the request of ATC or their own crew if that callsign is causing confusion. Aircraft taking each other’s squawks, clearances etc due callsign confusion is a fairly regular and potentially catastrophic occurrence.

An example with two similar callsigns both taking off at once

https://youtu.be/b26NcJCLZl4

basill

marno21 wrote: »

EI use alphanumeric callsigns on most of their routes with a few exceptions

My guess, especially with the transatlantics, is with a lot of similar flight numbers flying together it aids clarity by using alphanumeric callsigns rather than just the numbers

https://www.eurocontrol.int/service/call-sign-similarity-service

Its a pain in the hoop. Some of the callsigns that we have been getting over the past few years are real tongue twisters and after a long day it can become tiresome.

[Deleted User]

Shamrockj wrote: »

I'm guessing sickness as well. It can't fly with passengers if anyone gets sick on the 757

My family were due to fly back on the flight. My sister was told it was due to a strike but I couldn’t find anything about anything on google. The email arrived at 15:45 our time for the flight that was leaving Boston at 19:30 (their time). All the email said was flight disruption.

joeysoap

That looked bad on news. Could they not have found a plane somewhere to fly to Lisbon, it’s not that far away.

mikel97

And MORE disruption with the little old 737 they use to the faros from the belfast city. All cancelled today malage/faros.
Anyone get any informations?

Shamrockj

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

My family were due to fly back on the flight. My sister was told it was due to a strike but I couldn’t find anything about anything on google. The email arrived at 15:45 our time for the flight that was leaving Boston at 19:30 (their time). All the email said was flight disruption.

It was due to crew sickness

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/aer-lingus-apologise-to-passengers-after-plane-forced-to-take-off-and-fly-to-shannon-without-them-934005.html

1123heavy

Assuming it was 1 crew member out, that would have left them with 3. For every 50 passengers you need 1 crew, why couldn't they operate with 3 crew and allow 150 passengers on board and drastically reduce the number of affected passengers ?