Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

amcalester · 28-06-2019 08:30PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

not a question with an easy answer. worst i ever came off was when colliding with a car. i've gone over the handlebars without suffering too much damage. but i suspect the latter is much more of a lottery than the former.

No, definitely a chose your poison question.

I’ve gone over a bonnet twice and I’d chose that over going over the handlebars.

tuxy · 28-06-2019 08:32PM

p15574 wrote: »

I don't have his insurance details but a fireman got his name/phone/reg and have them to me so I'll certainly be giving him a call. I'll be out medical costs and probably damage to the bike. Will probably be up to him as to whether his insurance company finds out. Though his behaviour so far hasn't impressed me, which may reduce my empathy.

I'd want nothing to do with someone like him. If he had killed you he probably wouldn't have acted differently. Ask the Guards about getting his insurance details. That's who you need to contact not the driver.

amcalester · 28-06-2019 08:36PM

tuxy wrote: »

I'd want nothing to do with someone like him. If he had killed you he probably wouldn't have acted differently. Ask the Guards about getting his insurance details. That's who you need to contact not the driver.

Yeah, just get the insurance details and deal with them.

Once it’s all sorted he can pay them back if he wants.

CramCycle · 28-06-2019 08:43PM

I'd take the collision rather than over the handlebars. Report to Gardai, they will probably say why not at the time and just let them know that the fire brigade responded. The Gardai decide on legal action, you decide on compensation action. I don't think you'll be out medical and bike costs once they see the video and a few notes from yourself from here about the distances. Your choice about a solicitor, but insurance companies are very quick to deal with without them, and solicitors fees are too much if there is no personal injury. This said, solicitors know the ins and outs, and if it's anymore than the bike and a few scratches, I'd be onto one

rushfan · 28-06-2019 08:47PM

p15574 wrote:

As has been said, it looks like longer in the video than it actually was in real life. I probably had about a second, and I was on a road bike, holding onto the top handlebars ,and the brakes were on the front (if you get me), so I had to change hand position to brake.

Only viewing this on my phone , and I'm in no way familiar with the junction, but you had a green light, seemingly.

CramCycle · 28-06-2019 08:49PM

About 4.15 onwards, looks faster on a mobile than a desktop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7P2stOfvmw

tuxy · 28-06-2019 08:58PM

I actually can't deal with cycle lanes like that in urban areas with slow moving traffic. The only time I've been hit by a car was while using one. Not sure if it's the best thing to do but I just use the main lane, overtake traffic on the right and never the left. I sometimes use the cycle lanes briefly if it's clear and I want to let traffic past.

Duckjob · 28-06-2019 09:33PM

p15574 wrote: »

Not a near miss, more a 'hit'. Me, this morning, Donnybrook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viQR7kUblWA

Driver pulled out into the yellow box then stopped dead. I only left the last 40 seconds in to show the driver not bothering to come over to me at all. Not once did he ask me how I was. Driving a Golf TDI, I think he was more pissed off that my body had dented his boy racer car, or that people had witnessed it. Ambulance/fire brigade in attendance, A&E, X-Rays etc but thankfully only battered and bruised - I think.

Sorry for your troubles p15574.

I would guess from his reaction and complete lack of empathy that he's part of the pond-life that inhabit the comment section of the journal cycling articles. He will probably be contributing on the next one about the "kamikaze road rat" that ran straight into him, of course omitting any detail that would reveal he caused it.

Make sure you get well checked out. I've learned myself from recent experience that the full extent of injuries can take a couple of days to become apparent after these crashes.

jon1981 · 28-06-2019 09:35PM

Does this count as a near miss from this pr*ck

https://youtu.be/AOR7KIwYoZw

Duckjob · 28-06-2019 09:40PM

jon1981 wrote: »

Does this count as a near miss from this pr*ck

https://youtu.be/AOR7KIwYoZw

Jesus, that's close. Report that psychopath before he does kill someone.

Chiparus · 28-06-2019 09:42PM

jon1981 wrote: »

Does this count as a near miss from this pr*ck

https://youtu.be/AOR7KIwYoZw

That was close, seriously go to the guards,

Odyssey 2005 · 28-06-2019 09:45PM

Chiparus wrote: »

That was close, seriously go to the guards,

:):)

CramCycle · 29-06-2019 12:11AM

100% agree, to the gardai

Pinch Flat · 29-06-2019 07:22AM

I cycle that way daily and this is common, I’d say it’s the same bus and driver. The bus eireann drivers seem to have a real attitude when it comes to cyclists. Report this to that guards and bus eireann as well.

Also, keep center and take that lane as well. I do this all the time. The angry beeps from taxis and some motorists just blend into the background.

CramCycle · 29-06-2019 07:27AM

Same here, I take the lane from the pedestrian crossing in Donnybrook, there isn't room for an overtake unless the other lane is clear so no point encouraging it. It's also an S bend so it would be dangerous for a car to be going any faster than a bike, no matter their opinion on the subject.

AndrewJRenko · 29-06-2019 07:43AM

jon1981 wrote: »

Does this count as a near miss from this pr*ck

https://youtu.be/AOR7KIwYoZw

Is that a Daybreak truck just before? You should send the video to them to let them know how they contributed to the near miss.

Seth Brundle · 29-06-2019 09:01AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is that a Daybreak truck just before? You should send the video to them to let them know how they contributed to the near miss.

They didn't really. The path comes out closing the lane just in front of the truck.

CramCycle · 29-06-2019 09:17AM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

They didn't really. The path comes out closing the lane just in front of the truck.

Yep, the bike is in the bike / bus lane, where the truck is, is a bus stop that is essentially off road, whether it was there or not would not have affected the cyclists position

queldy · 29-06-2019 03:55PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I cycle that way daily and this is common, I’d say it’s the same bus and driver. The bus eireann drivers seem to have a real attitude when it comes to cyclists. Report this to that guards and bus eireann as well.

Also, keep center and take that lane as well. I do this all the time. The angry beeps from taxis and some motorists just blend into the background.

I have to cycle that way often too, and it is common - I agree.
Taking the lane is safer but still very dangerous, as aggressive drivers (including bus drivers) tailgate often as they don't want to miss the green.
At that particular stretch there is also a kind of "grand prix start" behaviour; as the road is widening after the light, everyone is compulsively increasing speed like they were followed by a T-rex.

queldy · 29-06-2019 03:59PM

CramCycle wrote: »

Yep, the bike is in the bike / bus lane, where the truck is, is a bus stop that is essentially off road, whether it was there or not would not have affected the cyclists position

I wrote a post few months ago about that stretch: I was taking the lane to avoid similar situations (as suggested already), and a taxi driver took me over at speed from the left using that bus/cycling lane. Sometimes there is no limit to stupidity.

CramCycle · 29-06-2019 04:21PM

queldy wrote: »

I wrote a post few months ago about that stretch: I was taking the lane to avoid similar situations (as suggested already), and a taxi driver took me over at speed from the left using that bus/cycling lane. Sometimes there is no limit to stupidity.

You can't fix stupidity, legally you can't even beat it out of people anymore :eek: Coming across the M50 bridge at Tallaght last Thursday, car came up the left lane (it is a 3 lane entrance onto the signal controlled roundabout), I was in the middle one for going straight through, the left one clearly sign posted for left only, as well as a solid white line, lest you forget and think it is a regular single lane roundabout ?!? Came up not shy of 80kmph as we got the green and then cut across in front of me and a line of traffic moving off. Forgetting the stupidity of the manoeuvre in regards not following clear directions, only a few at the top of the queue would have seen if other traffic had cleared or not, the speed he was doing and hitting the junction as it turned green, he could have easily wiped out anyone crossing to the M50 southbound on amber. I suspect its a daily ritual to beat the 10 cars which would delay him by a minute as he turned off into a housing estate not much further down the N81.

Dr_Colossus · 29-06-2019 05:37PM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

I cycle that way daily and this is common, I’d say it’s the same bus and driver. The bus eireann drivers seem to have a real attitude when it comes to cyclists. Report this to that guards and bus eireann as well.

Also, keep center and take that lane as well. I do this all the time. The angry beeps from taxis and some motorists just blend into the background.

+1, cycle that way home each evening in rush hour and the problem seems to be with Bus Eireann drivers and cyclists. Not sure if same bus but similar on Wed evening beeped a female cyclist in the exact same spot as that dangerous overtake all to stop at the lights. She had a go at the driver at the lights also fair play to her but a less experienced cyclists wouldn't be seen on the roads again with the intimidation.

Pinch Flat · 30-06-2019 12:32PM

Two cars in a row minutes apart forced our cycling group off the road in rural co Meath this morning. Both coming from the front. Despite us singling up. First one - Audi Q7. Second one - bmw x5. Single carriage rural road, neither of them slowed down. Obviously pretty important journeys to worry about a few pesky cyclists

ct5amr2ig1nfhp · 30-06-2019 08:27PM

I'd be interested to know how you came to that conclusion? The Daybreak truck is in a bus stop area.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Is that a Daybreak truck just before? You should send the video to them to let them know how they contributed to the near miss.

sy_flembeck · 30-06-2019 10:41PM

I'd be the first to say I feel I have a relatively east time in Wicklow compared to some here but for whatever reason they all appeared on Friday.

The first was on the road from Ashford to Annamoe. I have NEVER had an issue on this road which is why I have left the video running to show the two overtakes behind the first beaut as they are more typical of the area. Unfortunately the Fly6 was malfunctioning on the day so I don't have rear footage but as far as I can see either the first car sped up to intimidate or overtook the others and then pulled in on top of me. And I don't know which is worse. Either was their speed caused me to wobble. The road had been clear when I entered it just before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-xmfEWTINc

Again, approaching Glenealy, another spot I've never had issues with (but I've heard from those who have). The Vectra in question had the passenger window down. Perosnally, I felt it was to listen to my reaction as he immeidately looked over to the left after overtaking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNT4p0G27Eg

Then this gem just north of Ashford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ewJLYhRZro

(Don't know why the Fly12 becomes distorted when edited - any suggestions as to how to avoid this?)

30-06-2019 10:47PM

Take the lane!!!!! all day every day in those. Single white you move out.

tuxy · 30-06-2019 10:49PM

Not only safer but less punctures.

sy_flembeck · 30-06-2019 10:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Take the lane!!!!! all day every day in those. Single white you move out.

Ordinarily I'd agree 100% but, as I'd never had issues in any of those locations, I suppose complacency set in really.

30-06-2019 10:58PM

sy_flembeck wrote: »

Ordinarily I'd agree 100% but, as I'd never had issues in any of those locations, I suppose complacency set in really.

I get ya totally but for that 1 arsehole in 3 in those you need to protect yourself from you are too far left for my comfort in those.

Thinkingaboutit · 01-07-2019 06:30AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Take the lane!!!!! all day every day in those. Single white you move out.

Normally, and nearly always the best advice (also for a lot of small junctions), but there on occasion some not sane motorists - letting on their way instead of having them behind me seems better.

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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