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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r50a9j2rYZE&feature=youtu.be

    Close pass , the mirror was literally inches from my shoulder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Chiparus wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r50a9j2rYZE&feature=youtu.be

    Close pass , the mirror was literally inches from my shoulder.

    You should report that to Gardai.

    It's a Nissan Interstsr 05 CW 1164 - very distinctive graphics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,002 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    micar wrote: »
    You should report that to Gardai.

    It's a Nissan Interstsr 05 CW 1164 - very distinctive graphics

    Can you pick up the company name?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭hesker


    Not a near miss as thankfully no one coming the other way but I had 3 cars in a row overtake me as we approached and went around this bend this morning. As you can see it's a very minor road, just wide enough for 2 cars to pass. All 3 cars were on the other side of the road going around the bend. It's made worse because it is a steep hill and if there was a lad coming down hill on a bike from the other direction he would have been creamed.

    It's nuts.

    I usually stick my arm out approaching this bend but this morning I was a bit worried I might lose it.

    483624.JPG


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭ChrisJ84


    Did anyone notice the graffiti on the cycle lane on Alfie Byrne road this morning? Couldn't really read it as I was going the other way, but saw a couple of the painted on bikes were crossed out, with "No Bikes" scrawled underneath. Lovely! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Update on some pics I posted a few weeks baxk of a close pass by a bus on the N4, I contacted the company in question and they after a little encouragement they were engaging and open. They spoke with the driver and showed him the pass from my perspective so hopefully he's gotten something from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,394 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    ChrisJ84 wrote: »
    Did anyone notice the graffiti on the cycle lane on Alfie Byrne road this morning? Couldn't really read it as I was going the other way, but saw a couple of the painted on bikes were crossed out, with "No Bikes" scrawled underneath. Lovely! :rolleyes:

    The No Bikes paint was a piss take, here's a selection from a familiar name
    https://twitter.com/SpucklerMr/status/1143790678515884033


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What's the meaning behind "The Good Room"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,394 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    What's the meaning behind "The Good Room"?

    Your traditional granny had the 'good room', or parlour to be posh, to show off to their visitors. Good Room in this context refers to DCC rolling out the good paint or the few good pieces of cycling infrastructure to the visitors coming for Velo City.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Your traditional granny had the 'good room', or parlour to be posh, to show off to their visitors. Good Room in this context refers to DCC rolling out the good paint or the few good pieces of cycling infrastructure to the visitors coming for Velo City.

    Which ironically gave rise to some of the worst infrastructure I have ever seen, the bike path that is dissected by staggered kerbing was a masterpiece in explaining why road engineers should not be allowed drink on the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Which ironically gave rise to some of the worst infrastructure I have ever seen, the bike path that is dissected by staggered kerbing was a masterpiece in explaining why road engineers should not be allowed drink on the job.

    Wow, where's that track?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭ChrisJ84


    Hurrache wrote: »
    The No Bikes paint was a piss take, here's a selection from a familiar name
    https://twitter.com/SpucklerMr/status/1143790678515884033

    Ah, that makes sense now. Shouldn't have assumed it was a disgruntled motorist, seems it was a disgruntled cyclist!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,755 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Is that a velocity sign at the bottom of that traffic sign?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six



    Yeah, that's about the level we're operating at. World Class Shambles.

    You'd think that this whole modern world where you are terrified of being sued couldn't let something as ridiculously hazardous as that exist, but there you go. Is there some different standard for roads and footpaths? There used to be a thing where people would claim for tripping on paths, but there was some change to how that system worked. Maybe the path had to be 'broken' for a period of time. Could it be that this 'facility' is not technically a hazard because all of its various dangerous components are 100% intact and presented as intended?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    The issue has to be reported to the council and they have to have made no attempt to fix or resolve it. You can still sue but there is negligence on the part of the council if they knew there was an issue and the person could prove that . So my memory says but maybe more legally wise minds could clarify.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    Presumably, the Good Room graffiti is a reference to this Guardian article, where the Irish concept of The Good Room is used to explain Irish local authorities’ attitude to cycling infrastructure:

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/25/dublin-disappoints-what-happened-to-city-cyclings-great-hope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Type 17 wrote: »
    Presumably, the Good Room graffiti is a reference to this Guardian article, where the Irish concept of The Good Room is used to explain Irish local authorities’ attitude to cycling infrastructure:

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/25/dublin-disappoints-what-happened-to-city-cyclings-great-hope

    The recent rush to achieve some quick wins in an attempt to convince our visitors that we really care about cycling infrastructure have been referred to for at least the last couple of weeks on Twitter as "The Good Room". The Guardian picked up on it from speaking to the same people who've been calling it that on Twitter of late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    Fair enough. Hopefully, it might wake a few people up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,002 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Your traditional granny had the 'good room', or parlour to be posh, to show off to their visitors. Good Room in this context refers to DCC rolling out the good paint or the few good pieces of cycling infrastructure to the visitors coming for Velo City.

    And the good room would get a lick of paint before the visitors from America arrived


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Coming towards Castleknock gate this morning, indicating right to the park. Despite indicating to go right, I'm overtaken by some clown in a skoda, who proceeds to left hook me to get to the queue to red light for the traffic going straight ahead. Tapped on her window and gave her a slow hand clap, but she gave that catatonic stare ahead when motorists realize they've something not so clever (or perhaps just don't give a ****e)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭purple hands


    Not a near miss, but had a lovely encounter with a bus driver who decided to park in the cycle lane along North Wall Quay while dropping a tour group off to the Boat/Cill Airne pub. Blocking the bus lane too while he was at it.

    Stopped and asked if he realized where he was parked. "You tell me where should I park so?" he says before telling me to f*ck off, mumbling something about "cyclists taking over". I'd say I wasn't the first to have a go at him :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Same happens opposite the bus terminus in Maynooth buses can't get in to the terminus as it's shared with Dublin bus, Bus Eireann and the airport hopper so regularly full so they pull onto the bike lane to unload/wait to enter service. I can empathize with the drivers somewhat as its all brand new infrastructure and completely in adequate for what's needed :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    CramCycle wrote: »
    The issue has to be reported to the council and they have to have made no attempt to fix or resolve it. You can still sue but there is negligence on the part of the council if they knew there was an issue and the person could prove that . So my memory says but maybe more legally wise minds could clarify.




    is that not for road surface issues, for instance the road network is large and can be damaged by weather or heavy use. So its fair that the council cant be held accountable for going around checking its ok every second of the day


    but for that ****, dangerous crappy design, i doubt that's the case


    I mean you can easily avoid it by using your eyes during the day but at night maybe it's not so obvious who knows.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,755 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i remember a case many years ago where there was a fatality on aston quay; a cyclist hit a manhole cover (one of the ones which had wooden inserts, IIRC, and the inserts had come out) and was struck by a HGV.
    a day later the council replaced it; and were hauled over the coals by the coroner, who claimed that it amounted to hiding crucial evidence in an inquest.
    (that was years ago, so i probably have some/many details wrong).

    however, from the council's point of view, it puts them between a rock and a hard place, how can they not act to fix something implicated in a road death?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    i remember a case many years ago where there was a fatality on aston quay; a cyclist hit a manhole cover (one of the ones which had wooden inserts, IIRC, and the inserts had come out) and was struck by a HGV.
    a day later the council replaced it; and were hauled over the coals by the coroner, who claimed that it amounted to hiding crucial evidence in an inquest.
    (that was years ago, so i probably have some/many details wrong).

    however, from the council's point of view, it puts them between a rock and a hard place, how can they not act to fix something implicated in a road death?

    Surely the Gardai would have taken all the relevant details, photos etc. The forensics team etc. should have taken all the relevant info etc. and if they hadn't , they shouldn't ahve released the scene.

    Sounds like, dare I say it, the council were right and the coroner was a muppet. If it did indeed happen the way you described.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,755 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i'm reasonably certain this was the incident:
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cyclist-crushed-by-truck-in-city-rushhour-accident-26072104.html

    that said, my memories are obviously 17 years old; but i do remember the council taking flak over the hasty replacement.

    edit: more detail here:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/an-irishman-s-diary-1.1096051


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    is that not for road surface issues, for instance the road network is large and can be damaged by weather or heavy use. So its fair that the council cant be held accountable for going around checking its ok every second of the day


    but for that ****, dangerous crappy design, i doubt that's the case


    I mean you can easily avoid it by using your eyes during the day but at night maybe it's not so obvious who knows.

    I was referring to checksixs post, but yes, just because that is the way it is done, there is nothing to stop someone who has an accident here taking the council to court for negligence or endangering them for clearly substandard or unsafe design. I was referring to the tripping on a pavement or pothole etc. style issues


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,002 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko



    however, from the council's point of view, it puts them between a rock and a hard place, how can they not act to fix something implicated in a road death?
    They could fix the problem and still hold onto the evidence - get proper engineer's report and photos of the situation before the fix.


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