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Dairy Chitchat 3

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    #4652
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Milk collected today at 1.30pm. Just on the farm now for evening milking. Warning signal beeping on tank. Temperature too low. Tank wasn't turned off and put washing. Rang the haulage contractor. Relief driver on today and was told that their not obliged to put the tank washing. All tank operational instructions taped to the tank. This is the 2nd or 3rd time where this has happened recently. Do lorry drivers put on other people's tanks washing?

    They always put it washing here. Ring the milk manager in coop. It's normally only a case of connecting a pipe or closing the cap they opened and hitting a button or switch, wouldn't exactly cost them time


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    #4653
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Mooooo wrote: »
    They always put it washing here. Ring the milk manager in coop. It's normally only a case of connecting a pipe or closing the cap they opened and hitting a button or switch, wouldn't exactly cost them time

    Very simple process. Often they just throw the outlet cap on the ground instead of placing it on the tank steps right in front of them


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    #4654
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Milk collected today at 1.30pm. Just on the farm now for evening milking. Warning signal beeping on tank. Temperature too low. Tank wasn't turned off and put washing. Rang the haulage contractor. Relief driver on today and was told that their not obliged to put the tank washing. All tank operational instructions taped to the tank. This is the 2nd or 3rd time where this has happened recently. Do lorry drivers put on other people's tanks washing?

    Most drivers here do but they're not obliged to do it. The early collections normally are put washing round here so the farmer doesn't have to wait for the wash to finish before milking though.


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    #4655
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    Most drivers here do but they're not obliged to do it. The early collections normally are put washing round here so the farmer doesn't have to wait for the wash to finish before milking though.

    Leaving the tank on cooling with no milk is not good for the compressor. Are they obliged to turn off the tank? Otherwise I may as well become a complete slave to the farm and can't head away to a match or anything


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    #4656
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,243 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Just put a note on the tank to please turn off cooler.


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    #4657
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Just put a note on the tank to please turn off cooler.

    If it's a dairymaster tank it's as easy to put washing as it is to stop cooling


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    #4658
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Mooooo wrote: »
    If it's a dairymaster tank it's as easy to put washing as it is to stop cooling

    Packo tank


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    #4659
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Packo tank

    Press one button twice to stop tank and then wash button twice


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    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Leaving the tank on cooling with no milk is not good for the compressor. Are they obliged to turn off the tank? Otherwise I may as well become a complete slave to the farm and can't head away to a match or anything

    The operations that they have to carry out should be up on the tanker, iirc?

    Our lads always turn off the tank and switch on the agitator and switch it off towards the end of the collection, we've never had any problems like that, thank god.

    Might be worth having a chat with your local manager about it. Making a big fuss about it could result in them only doing the absolute bare minimum and you getting a bad rep as a troublemaker?


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    #4661
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    The operations that they have to carry out should be up on the tanker, iirc?

    Our lads always turn off the tank and switch on the agitator and switch it off towards the end of the collection, we've never had any problems like that, thank god.

    Might be worth having a chat with your local manager about it. Making a big fuss about it could result in them only doing the absolute bare minimum and you getting a bad rep as a troublemaker?

    Didn't want to speak to the manager as I felt I would be going over the haulage operator. Preferred to speak to him direct


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    #4662
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Didn't want to speak to the manager as I felt I would be going over the haulage operator. Preferred to speak to him direct

    **** it I'd ring the milk manager. Its hardly that hard to put the tank on wash. Driver does it here and there has been a good few new ones driving this year.
    I fell out black with mine last year because I wasnt finished milking at 8.30 am for him, in the spring no less!
    I never held a grudge and he hasnt either


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    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    **** it I'd ring the milk manager. Its hardly that hard to put the tank on wash. Driver does it here and there has been a good few new ones driving this year.
    I fell out black with mine last year because I wasnt finished milking at 8.30 am for him, in the spring no less!
    I never held a grudge and he hasnt either

    Thanks. I contacted the manager before about the drivers not switching on the agitators before collecting the milk. Today's collection was pure carelessness again. He had it set up to wash but never pressed the button for wash. Invested in a new dairy and tank and the drivers can't check to see if the wash is running on the display panel


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    #4664
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Thanks. I contacted the manager before about the drivers not switching on the agitators before collecting the milk. Today's collection was pure carelessness again. He had it set up to wash but never pressed the button for wash. Invested in a new dairy and tank and the drivers can't check to see if the wash is running on the display panel
    With a new tank theres no excuse. Ours is 4 years old. Very easy to do it. Turn it off before milk is collected, screw on the wash cap after the collection pipe is taken away and press wash
    Job done


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    #4665
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    With a new tank theres no excuse. Ours is 4 years old. Very easy to do it. Turn it off before milk is collected, screw on the wash cap after the collection pipe is taken away and press wash
    Job done

    Same as mine. Its not rocket science to be honest and the instructions are taped onto the tank


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    #4666
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,085 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    So the driver is doing you a favour and ye get cross because they dont do it or do something wrong.not saying a bit bur do ye expect a relief driver to get a list of instructions on each tank on his run and get it right.make it you're business to be there if its important .


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    #4667
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    K.G. wrote: »
    So the driver is doing you a favour and ye get cross because they dont do it or do something wrong.not saying a bit bur do ye expect a relief driver to get a list of instructions on each tank on his run and get it right.make it you're business to be there if its important .

    Agreed
    Running to the boss sounds very childish anyway;
    Could have the opposite effect


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    #4668
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    wrangler wrote: »
    Agreed
    Running to the boss sounds very childish anyway;
    Could have the opposite effect

    My tank takes 40 minutes to wash. That's 40 minutes of my morning gone if the milk is collected at night, which it used to be.
    If you held them up for 40 minutes they would have some puss on there face
    And leaving the tank on with no milk in it is bad for the tank and compressors.
    It's not like it's a big job to press a button and screw on the wash cap


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    #4669
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    My tank takes 40 minutes to wash. That's 40 minutes of my morning gone if the milk is collected at night, which it used to be.
    If you held them up for 40 minutes they would have some puss on there face
    And leaving the tank on with no milk in it is bad for the tank and compressors.
    It's not like it's a big job to press a button and screw on the wash cap

    Probably just forgot,..... to err etc etc
    I was talking to a new recruit to the PS yesterday, he was telling me that he has had to find his low box since he joined. another guy said that if he puts up ten fence posts today they'll expect the same tomorrow !!!!!!!!!......that's the mentality thats out there now. it's certainly not the mentality of milk tanker drivers


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    #4670
    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    wrangler wrote: »
    Agreed
    Running to the boss sounds very childish anyway;
    Could have the opposite effect

    The boss man said the driver should not have left the yard without switching off the tank. Keep your childish comments to yourself


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    #4671
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,115 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Not worth falling out with milk man ,there will be days when u badly need him .running off to the boss crying rather than just having a word with the driver/milk manager is pure madness and childish ,unless the driver is a pure dick or pure incompetent I wouldn’t be going over board ,they work long hours and have to suck it up going into tight yards ,opening gates ,waiting on lads to finish milking etc


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    #4672
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users Posts: 11,115 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Yield holding very well for you. Did you add much to the meal for the bf. Had issues with bf earlier in may and for all the messing with ration putting a bit of straw in a round feeder as they walked passed was prob the most effective. The changes to pricing had the low bf effect the price per litre more as well. As my first year all spring it's possible my genetics aren't great for bf anyway, normally average around 4 for the the year when split calving.

    Megafat at 2.5% in nut since start of year ,nis at 12.5% since start as well and actisaf since mid April .13.5% p nut with main ingridents maize,barley. Soya beet pulp and distillers .fat at lowest went to 3.59 but averaged 3.7 for May ,back at more acceptable level now .tbh there isn’t much I can do outside of putting in a buffer of maize silage/beet and something like brewers grains mix but no diet feeder and too much hassle at this stage of year


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    #4673
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Milk collected today at 1.30pm. Just on the farm now for evening milking. Warning signal beeping on tank. Temperature too low. Tank wasn't turned off and put washing. Rang the haulage contractor. Relief driver on today and was told that their not obliged to put the tank washing. All tank operational instructions taped to the tank. This is the 2nd or 3rd time where this has happened recently. Do lorry drivers put on other people's tanks washing?

    Yes always put washing here, although it'd be washed by the time I'd be ready to start anyway so Im not too bothered.

    In our tank you can't switch on the washer without the tank being off. Shouldn't be too hard to do or think of for a tank manufacturer .


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    #4674
    mf240
    Registered Users Posts: 4,851 ✭✭✭mf240


    Once or twice over the years a driver has forgotten to switch off the tank. I never bothered ringing anyone, they probably just forgot.


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    #4675
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    Could you explain that? I'm assuming that means heavy covers?

    Yes-ish, its not a "thing" , im just tryingvto describe it . Using minimal N input so covers are still around 2000 grazing down to 5-700. Not too dense at the base. Happened by accident last year due to the bizarre weather and I was surprised how well it worked. Might need to make some dry cow bales yet to straighten it out.
    Reason I mentioned it is because protein should be higher otherwise.


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    #4676
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Panch18 wrote: »
    How’s the OAD going for you?

    Good so far, there's more in it though. It suits my situation and pays the bills, makes dairy farming a very attractive lifestyle.


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    #4677
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    cute geoge wrote: »
    There is a vane of the best land in the country running from Ratoo round tower in Ballyduff on into Causeway back past Dairymaster into Ballyheighue up to Kerryhead

    Some good land in Ardfert, where the ploughing was in 1984.


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    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Milk collected today at 1.30pm. Just on the farm now for evening milking. Warning signal beeping on tank. Temperature too low. Tank wasn't turned off and put washing. Rang the haulage contractor. Relief driver on today and was told that their not obliged to put the tank washing. All tank operational instructions taped to the tank. This is the 2nd or 3rd time where this has happened recently. Do lorry drivers put on other people's tanks washing?
    They have forgotten to turn off the compressor switch on my tank on more than one occasion, then you have the compressor fighting 80 degree water :mad: I said it to a new driver last week who's Polish but I don't know whether he didn't understand or didn't want to understand.


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    #4679
    Keepgrowing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    K.G. wrote: »
    So the driver is doing you a favour and ye get cross because they dont do it or do something wrong.not saying a bit bur do ye expect a relief driver to get a list of instructions on each tank on his run and get it right.make it you're business to be there if its important .

    I absolutely do.
    Cooler off, agitation on press wash button. It’s part and parcel of collecting milk, simple as that.


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    liosnagceann75
    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    I absolutely do.
    Cooler off, agitation on press wash button. It’s part and parcel of collecting milk, simple as that.

    Can't understand why some posters here are so hostile regarding milk collections. Am I supposed to hang around on the day of collection so I can make sure the tank is turned off? Milk lorry can arrive at any time in the day. I went to a match yesterday and arrived home to the tank not switched off. This is a great country where milk is being collected and here is no obligation to switch off the tank or put the tank washing.


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    #4681
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,093 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    liosnagceann75 wrote: »
    Can't understand why some posters here are so hostile regarding milk collections. Am I supposed to hang around on the day of collection so I can make sure the tank is turned off? Milk lorry can arrive at any time in the day. I went to a match yesterday and arrived home to the tank not switched off. This is a great country where milk is being collected and here is no obligation to switch off the tank or put the tank washing.

    Is it actually part of the drivers job,


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