Werewolf Post Game Feedback Thread

Green&Red wrote: »

I left posting this while the game was in progress, its over now so I’m happy to post it.
I’ve only been on the FG website a short time but I’ve found it to be very friendly and welcoming.
During the game there was a very aggressive post made in response to (what I felt was) an innocuous enough post of mine. I reacted calling it out for what I thought it was, I said aggression like that was acting like a w@nker. The post that followed was just downright abusive. I wouldn’t let someone speak to me like that in RL so I don’t see why I should here.
I play these games for enjoyment and abuse like that directed towards anyone is unacceptable IMO. There was an apology the following morning, not to me, but for getting angry and then an interaction where the person in question made it be known that they felt it was dealt with in the background and shouldn’t be raised again. In fact it was directly put to them about an apology not being issued immediately, that caused another unnecessary row.
I haven’t looked up the anon account so I’m not sure which user it was.
I know people might say I have no right to complain about something like this as I fly fairly close to the wind with my jokes and humour (or what passes for humour) wouldn’t be to everybody’s liking. In RL and here I make a conscious effort to never make a personal comment about anyone, jokey or malicious in nature. For me theres a huge difference.
As someone new to this forum it comes across that you know each other very well, get on very well and like I said its been very welcoming. Something like this would make me think twice about signing up for another game, I don’t play to be spoken to like that. I’d imagine other newcomers would feel the same.
I don’t expect any response from the mods or anyone else really, there was a card issued at the time, dealt with in full IMO. I just wanted it noted that the yellow card didn’t stop this, today I’m pathetic for not wanting to engage with him. In a game which is all about language, words like pathetic and stupid stand out.

G&R

You're own posting style was terrible at times through-out the game. That sanitary towel comment was not only sexist, juvenile, but also completely dated and unoriginal. You then accuse me of plagiarism even though I attributed the term to you/someone else?

For my part, I admitted that the 'red mist' came down and I reacted poorly with my first post. I'm more than confident that players who are familiar with my style in the long-term would recognise that it was an extreme minority occurrence. I took my card and assured mods that I was done escalating the tensions in game. Specifically though, because I didn't do it yet, I am sorry to you G&R for that initial outburst.

I got slapped for that language rightfully, but not only did you thank the mod warning for unacceptable language, you then went and called me a wanker. We don't need to get into the judging what is worse, but I told another player to f**k off in a game of WW. It has happened in games. You returning fire with 'wanker' does not so much. That is why that second post which offends you most clearly is, in all honestly and admission, the work of the wanker that you called me. It fully deserves the card and whatever else follows it. By then, you deserved that response IMO for your own level of shots fired. All I regret is that I stooped that low.

You brought that level and the name calling into it, you reacted to my poor first post by thanking a mod warning about language, and then proceed to call me wanker. And you have the cheek to say you wouldn't let someone talk to you a certain way IRL?

Not only your 'sanitary towel' comment, your own language through-out the game leaves you in a glass house where you are now throwing stones IMHO. You told Wendy to 'back the f**k down' with her axe plan, called Clodagh a 'f**king head the ball', and by endgame there were even more 'f**ks' out of you. You made that sexist comment. Another time attributed racism to Dublin Andy/Clodagh for what was clearly a light-hearted post, all just unnecessary things which can grate on other players.

You are quite a new player, I've never played with you before so it's unfortunate it's gone this way although we had amicable interactions during Deadwood. I was delighted to mod a game in April that brought in 3 new players and see them take to the overall forum. I was disappointed to see a new player leave similar feedback to your own in a game I wasn't related to last Summer. I honestly get no joy out of seeing you reconsider your WW future G&R.

Apologies to all for my initial outburst, but I really don't think you're as clean in the overall furore as you portray. Unfortunately I am afk and haven't seen the rest of feedback or what else has been posted, but since it's been brought up by G&R, I have to say my part.

Green&Red wrote: »

As I said in my initial post I’m far from blameless for what I post but I do see a difference between personal abuse and other offensive language.

My main issue wasn’t with the post where you called me stupid, I absolutely didn’t like it but today when I referenced it and told you I didn’t want to engage with you I was called pathetic.

So if I’m to understand, there was no apology but under no circumstances am I allowed take offence, bring it up or refuse to engage further with you? And if I do I’m pathetic?

Pathetic and stupid are probably me two least favourite words.

**** is probably my favourite
If someone has an issue with something I say I expect them to bring it up with me, Oisin did and I addressed it. The racism comment was clearly said in jest but sometimes tone can be hard to get right obviously.

Look, you don’t like how I reacted to you. I see it as just that, a reaction. From my point of view something not of my making ruined my enjoyment of the game. Like I said it’ll make me think twice about playing again.

If you are genuine about not wanting to turn people away from the game then I’d suggest not calling people pathetic or stupid would be a good place to start.

I think it’s obvious we’re not going to come to a conclusion on this so for my part I’m going to park it.

If I do play another game I certainly won’t be using this in any manner

'Pathetic' was honestly in relation to WW tactics and a judging on a game. I was full sure you were wolf by then making pathetic or desperate attempts and flip-flopping, that was a reading completely unrelated to our earlier incident. I did not mean it personally. Your own view on such words is really not by problem.

'Stupid' was meant to annoy you by then, sure, and that's why I said it. 'Wanker' annoyed me, so I returned fire. I do not actually think you are stupid.

No apology for the second post, no, not unless you want to apologise for calling me a wanker and baiting that second post?

As others have pointed out, tensions escalate in WW regularly and it happens. Thankfully Boards has a mod system here to step in and handle it the rare time it gets too much.

I'm purely making this suggestion on my own and not speaking for anyone else, but if you found that all too much and still can't see how you escalated that situation, maybe WW is too much for you.

Frankly, I find this all a bit OTT by now and have said my part.

Dude I got the biggest LOL when Brendan said you had posted for the 2nd time in the wrong thread, mainly cause I know its the same kinda thing I would do.

I'm not trying to be mean, its just I was so nervous about doing it all game. I could totally feel what you would be going through but it was oddly funny to me

tusk wrote: »

Gertrude converting was the single worst thing that could have happened to the village.

Ya i think we were done without that tbh even as excellent as lordy played I dont think we could have overcome the numbers or the doubt it created

Necro wrote: »

And afterwards. Sure me and Mick tore the heads off each other post game back in the day and now look at us we're grand now.

Same with me and beaker at one point. It happens, just take a few days and cool off is the best advice I can give...

This advice doesn't apply to me though, ever :P

Ya apologies about that, it took me sometime to come around to some clear headed thinking and I'm not sure I ever actually apologised

Necro wrote: »

No worries, all water under the bridge bud!

Cheers dude

Now for some musical interlude

this is my calm down/ zone out song




It does work for me at least