Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

21-05-2019 8:20pm

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salmocab · 21-05-2019 8:32pm

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I may have fibbed about the beautiful people of Wexford

jacothelad · 21-05-2019 9:00pm

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"Keep your hands on your wallets lads, look who's behind you."

Squidgy Black · 21-05-2019 9:06pm

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"Here lads, you thought Johnny's contract was mental? Wait until you hear about that lad's pension"

Neil3030 · 21-05-2019 9:35pm

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"2.... 2 times three is.... plus.... and then 1 times 3 is.... I think Dublin are ahead, Scott, they look happier"

Former Former · 22-05-2019 8:09am

So the Irish Times are reporting that Rob Kearney is holding out for a central contract.

While he's still our best FB by some distance, that's hard to justify for a 33-year old heading into a new world cup cycle.

Squidgy Black · 22-05-2019 8:13am

Former Former wrote: »

So the Irish Times are reporting that Rob Kearney is holding out for a central contract.

While he's still our best FB by some distance, that's hard to justify for a 33-year old heading into a new world cup cycle.

I'd say he's probably looking at Sexton and his two year extension at the same age, with the same sort of line of succession (or lack of at the moment).

Buer · 22-05-2019 8:15am

I admire his balls to push for it but it would be poor business. I suppose there's an argument to give him a 1 year deal on the basis of them having very few options to slot in. The poor showings of others in the green 15 jersey this season has strengthened his position.

To be honest, I wouldn't even advocate Leinster giving him a big money provincial deal. There's a strong possibility that he could still be involved with Ireland next season if still in the country and they could end up getting very little game time for their investment.

I don't see the IRFU being pushed around on this and they know they've time on their side. Kearney needs to take whatever deals are on the table from Leinster/IRFU or any available positions abroad are going to disappear rapidly as they complete their business.

Interested Observer · 22-05-2019 9:30am

Gordon D'Arcy talked about how the IRFU value you as your age goes up in one of his past articles, if what he experienced still holds true then Kearney is well past his peak in terms of perception of value from the IRFU. He shouldn't be given any huge contract at this stage.

Exclamation Marc · 22-05-2019 9:40am

Former Former wrote: »

So the Irish Times are reporting that Rob Kearney is holding out for a central contract.

While he's still our best FB by some distance, that's hard to justify for a 33-year old heading into a new world cup cycle.

The article notes how the current offer is 'well below' what Kearney wants. Can see this ending in stalemate with him moving on to pastures new. And if the IRFU don't have it, I really can't see Leinster taking the slack on it.

If Larmour or Henshaw (or someone else) is the next long term 15, it makes sense to start playing him in Six Nations from next year rather than in three or four years time.

Shefwedfan · 22-05-2019 9:58am

Former Former wrote: »

So the Irish Times are reporting that Rob Kearney is holding out for a central contract.

While he's still our best FB by some distance, that's hard to justify for a 33-year old heading into a new world cup cycle.

I don't see why the IRFU would offer him a contract. It doesn't make sense. He will not make the next WC after Japan so really Ireland should be looking at Larmour etc and give them a 4 year run into WC at 15.

His injury profile is not great, even he admitted he struggled to get a few games in a row for nearly 2 season.

I can't see IRFU changing their mind and I don't think they should

Podge_irl · 22-05-2019 10:16am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I don't see why the IRFU would offer him a contract. It doesn't make sense. He will not make the next WC after Japan so really Ireland should be looking at Larmour etc and give them a 4 year run into WC at 15.

Whatever about the reasons for not giving him a new contract, this is not a very good one. Lots of players won't make the next world cup and planning 4 years out is nonsensical in the extreme.

22-05-2019 10:20am

I wouldn't like to face into a final against New Zealand in Japan without Roberto Kearndashian in the 15 Jersey.

The IRFU should pay a decent wedge to park this conversation for 12 months and get Kearney through the WC window in a positive headspace.

thomond2006 · 22-05-2019 10:21am

Is there a potential bolter for the Leinster 15 jersey coming out of the academy? There will be 3-4 Pro14 games at the start of next season to have a look, plus Celtic Cup in September.

dub_skav · 22-05-2019 10:33am

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"So, yeah, if I hadn't played rugby I'd probably be playing here"

"Really, Tadhg?"

Shefwedfan · 22-05-2019 10:39am

The new Leinster jersey is up for pre-order at 75 quid. They have image of current jersey.

The Munster one is on pre-order at 80 but they have actually released.

Just wondering is this a small f**k up and could you preorder at 75 and Lifestyle will have to offer at that price, if it is released I would guess it will be same price as Munster

Exclamation Marc · 22-05-2019 10:39am

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I wouldn't like to face into a final against New Zealand in Japan without Roberto Kearndashian in the 15 Jersey.

The IRFU should pay a decent wedge to park this conversation for 12 months and get Kearney through the WC window in a positive headspace.

He's contracted until the world cup, so he'll play if we get there and Joe wants him playing. A new contract now has no effect on that.

Squidgy Black · 22-05-2019 10:42am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The new Leinster jersey is up for pre-order at 75 quid. They have image of current jersey.

The Munster one is on pre-order at 80 but they have actually released.

Just wondering is this a small f**k up and could you preorder at 75 and Lifestyle will have to offer at that price, if it is released I would guess it will be same price as Munster

Good chance they'd just cancel the order if it is a mistake.

Shefwedfan · 22-05-2019 10:44am

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I wouldn't like to face into a final against New Zealand in Japan without Roberto Kearndashian in the 15 Jersey.

The IRFU should pay a decent wedge to park this conversation for 12 months and get Kearney through the WC window in a positive headspace.

Even if Rob decides to leave he will be with IRFU until the end of WC. Same as SOB....

kingofthekong · 22-05-2019 10:49am

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I wouldn't like to face into a final against New Zealand in Japan without Roberto Kearndashian in the 15 Jersey.

The IRFU should pay a decent wedge to park this conversation for 12 months and get Kearney through the WC window in a positive headspace.

On current form that not likely to happen regardless of what happens with Robs contract

Shefwedfan · 22-05-2019 10:55am

kingofthekong wrote: »

On current form that not likely to happen regardless of what happens with Robs contract

Rob is still the best 15 in Ireland by a good bit.

Larmour needs a huge amount of time at 15 before he can be close to the standard of Rob and he is hardly going to get it before WC

Conway, little Mr Angry, I doubt he will even make the squad

Addison was an option but I think injury has knocked him out

Henshaw we need at 12

Who would you have at 15 on current form?

kingofthekong · 22-05-2019 10:58am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Rob is still the best 15 in Ireland by a good bit.

Larmour needs a huge amount of time at 15 before he can be close to the standard of Rob and he is hardly going to get it before WC

Conway, little Mr Angry, I doubt he will even make the squad

Addison was an option but I think injury has knocked him out

Henshaw we need at 12

Who would you have at 15 on current form?

I mean in relation to us making the final....not at Rob being the best at Fullback

antietam1 · 22-05-2019 11:00am

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Fair enough. Personally, I don't see the big deal, it was half a sentence about one permutation on the penultimate week of the season. He made plenty other points in the article emphasising that Munster just weren't good enough.

It's not just Thornley, all the Munster fans I know are coming out with the same
rubbish.

22-05-2019 11:01am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

He's contracted until the world cup, so he'll play if we get there and Joe wants him playing. A new contract now has no effect on that.

I'm aware of that - but reading between the lines I'm not sure he wants to leave Leinster. I'd sort him out for the year, let him focus on the World Cup and then decide his future during next season.

He's still the best 15 in Ireland by a margin, he is in a challenging position career wise. Sort him out and make this go away for 12 months when it's far less consequential and distracting.

Then try and get him to agree to a year in Munster just so I can have the best time of my life with the build up threads.

"Peter & Rob visit Bealnablath"

kmart6 · 22-05-2019 11:13am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The new Leinster jersey is up for pre-order at 75 quid. They have image of current jersey.

The Munster one is on pre-order at 80 but they have actually released.

Just wondering is this a small f**k up and could you preorder at 75 and Lifestyle will have to offer at that price, if it is released I would guess it will be same price as Munster

Considering it is titled as 2018/19 it's safe to assume it's an error. They are also not going to release images of new kit before Leinster's last game of the season and potentially eat into selling of current stock, which is limited enough anyway.

baaba maal · 22-05-2019 11:15am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Rob is still the best 15 in Ireland by a good bit.

Larmour needs a huge amount of time at 15 before he can be close to the standard of Rob and he is hardly going to get it before WC

Conway, little Mr Angry, I doubt he will even make the squad

Addison was an option but I think injury has knocked him out

Henshaw we need at 12

Who would you have at 15 on current form?

Carbery!

Exclamation Marc · 22-05-2019 11:41am

Id give Henshaw another run at 15 tbh to see if he can play there.

Long term it could mean that you have an Aki/Ringrose axis for Ireland and a COB/Ringrose pairing at Leinster. Larmour then fits into 14.

It's worth trying.

awec · 22-05-2019 11:42am

Kearney has no leverage. He won't get a central deal.

He's old, he definitely won't make it to another world cup, he's no longer a guaranteed starter, and Ireland will be going through a bit of a transition next year anyway with the new coaching ticket. Bad time to be negotiating really, if he goes elsewhere post World Cup then so be it, if he wants one last big contract then he'll definitely get one in France.

22-05-2019 11:49am

awec wrote: »

Kearney has no leverage. He won't get a central deal.

He's old, he definitely won't make it to another world cup, he's no longer a guaranteed starter, and Ireland will be going through a bit of a transition next year anyway with the new coaching ticket. Bad time to be negotiating really, if he goes elsewhere post World Cup then so be it, if he wants one last big contract then he'll definitely get one in France.

Where was this ruthlessness when Pienaar was being sent on his way...

awec · 22-05-2019 11:51am

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Where was this ruthlessness when Pienaar was being sent on his way...

Pienaar was never on a central deal.

Leinster should be entirely free to sign him up if they want.

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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