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Clegg · 20-05-2019 10:28pm

They really needed Jon Connington and Young Griff in the show.

Griff is the son of Rhaegar Targaryan, so along with Denaerys and Jon he's another with a claim to the throne. In book 5 he and the Golden Company make war on Storms End and it's presumed he'll march to Kings Landing to take the throne. Dany is still in Essos and presumably by the time she gets to Westeros, Griff is King and loved by the city as he freed them from the Lannisters. Then you have her seen for the first time as a conquerer rather than a liberator. Easier to them write a descent into madness that way. She's there thinking she'll save everyone, but they hate her for it. Makes for a better snap moment than MIssandei's beheading and the bells going off. And you don't waste an entire season on Cersei drinking wine in the Red Keep and doing absolutely nothing.

prawnsambo · 20-05-2019 10:41pm

bilston wrote: »

On the one hand Jon's ending was bittersweet which was in keeping with his life so fair enough, but it was still pretty unfulfilling. I was hoping against hope that at the end when Jon and the Wildlings went north of the wall that they were going to come across Whitewalkers!

Well there's no guarantee that the white walkers are gone for good. Remember the wall was built after they were defeated the last time. And back they came.

swiwi_ · 21-05-2019 5:26am

Not sure if anyone a fan of F1 in the good ol’ days but RIP Niki Lauda

errlloyd · 21-05-2019 6:21am

His injury comeback is for me the greatest of all time.

swiwi_ · 21-05-2019 8:30am

errlloyd wrote: »

His injury comeback is for me the greatest of all time.

Until Josh VDF...

Buer · 21-05-2019 8:51am

On the final episode, I'm relatively happy with how things ended up. A major show like this is always going to divide opinion on the basis of how the characters end up when the credits roll. Sopranos and The Wire both did. I think Breaking Bad is the only major show of the last 15-20 years with massive hype that finished exceptionally well.

But....

That doesn't mean the final episode didn't have the same issues that have plagued the show all season. There was still a sense of sloppy plot to just wrap things up. Greyworm wants to execute Tyrion and Jon. He is happy to wait several weeks though rather than slitting Jon's throat on the spot which would be the expected response. Then he's happy just to sit there and let the lords of Westeros decide on a king who frees Tyrion and Jon before sailing off into the sunset.

Aside from that, Sansa just decides on the spot that the north will secede from the realm and be independent. Yeah, cool. No bother. She'll be queen too, by the way. Then any peripheral character will be invited to sit at the small council to wrap them all up neatly in one quick scene.

I thought the first 30 minutes or so was back to the older style. Methodical, good acting and script. Everything up to Daenerys death was really good. Everything beyond that was trying to wrap the stories of every character up hurriedly.

errlloyd · 21-05-2019 8:54am

My preference would have been Jon choosing the wall for himself at his own Trial. It seems ridiculous that the Lords of Westeros who owe him absolutely everything are willing to sentence him to a lifetime at the wall as a "compromise" with a group of unsullied they don't know. Like surely there are characters who owe their lives to Jon Snow. Lives have been risked breaking people out of prison for less. It just seems so ungrateful.

thomond2006 · 21-05-2019 10:27am

Can anyone recommend a pair of wired earphones around the €20 mark? I'm luckless with them, one earphone seems to break after a few weeks.

dregin · 21-05-2019 10:41am

My favourite wired earphones are the ones that come with the iphone. Don't own an iphone, but the missus has had a few and I use a pair from those.

You'd possibly pick up an unused pair second hand as a lot of iphone users buy the airpods with their phones.

On that note, I've ordered myself an early birthday present in these lads. Can't go too far wrong at 100 off - https://www.currys.ie/ieen/audio-and-headphones/headphones/headphones/sony-wh-1000xm3-wireless-bluetooth-noise-cancelling-headphones-black-10184616-pdt.html

dregin · 21-05-2019 10:43am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a pair of wired earphones around the €20 mark? I'm luckless with them, one earphone seems to break after a few weeks.

In D4 and all - https://www.adverts.ie/headphones-earphones/apple-iphone-headphones-new-unopened/17049635

errlloyd · 21-05-2019 10:47am

dregin wrote: »

On that note, I've ordered myself an early birthday present in these lads. Can't go too far wrong at 100 off - https://www.currys.ie/ieen/audio-and-headphones/headphones/headphones/sony-wh-1000xm3-wireless-bluetooth-noise-cancelling-headphones-black-10184616-pdt.html

I picked up the previous Gen of them (fairly similar) for a great price a little while ago. I'd say I wear them 7-10 hours per day. Calls, Music, TV if it's late. They're incredible.

thomond2006 · 21-05-2019 11:16am

I assume those Apple earphones will work on an Android?

errlloyd · 21-05-2019 11:16am

thomond2006 wrote: »

I assume those Apple earphones will work on an Android?

The volume buttons on the inline cord probably won't. But the mic and the earphones will.

dregin · 21-05-2019 11:42am

thomond2006 wrote: »

I assume those Apple earphones will work on an Android?

That's what I use em with.

aloooof · 21-05-2019 11:52am

thomond2006 wrote: »

I assume those Apple earphones will work on an Android?

The newer one come with the lightning connector, whereas the old ones have the regular jack. Just make sure you get the latter if you're looking to use them on an Android.

It's one of my pet hates; I used to be able to change my phone and listen to the headphones at the same time whereas now I can't.

21-05-2019 11:53am

Copy of the latest episode of Chernobyl online last night and stupidly watched it before bed.

That is one seriously grim show. The bureaucracy and fear behind the state, the indifference to the unfolding calamity and the impact on those on site at the outset of the disaster is sickening.

Take away the disaster and it's a chilling insight into the Soviet Union, but watching and realising how close Eastern Europe was to complete catastrophe is unnerving.

errlloyd · 21-05-2019 11:56am

Deleted User wrote: »

Copy of the latest episode of Chernobyl online last night and stupidly watched it before bed.

That is one seriously grim show. The bureaucracy and fear behind the state, the indifference to the unfolding calamity and the impact on those on site at the outset of the disaster is sickening.

Take away the disaster and it's a chilling insight into the Soviet Union, but watching and realising how close Eastern Europe was to complete catastrophe is unnerving.

Is episode 3 grimmer than episode 1?

Mr Tickle · 21-05-2019 11:57am

Deleted User wrote: »

Copy of the latest episode of Chernobyl online last night and stupidly watched it before bed.

That is one seriously grim show. The bureaucracy and fear behind the state, the indifference to the unfolding calamity and the impact on those on site at the outset of the disaster is sickening.

Take away the disaster and it's a chilling insight into the Soviet Union, but watching and realising how close Eastern Europe was to complete catastrophe is unnerving.

of course that's how the western propeganda media would portray it :pac:

21-05-2019 12:06pm

errlloyd wrote: »

Is episode 3 grimmer than episode 1?

Yes.

swiwi_ · 21-05-2019 12:07pm

dregin wrote: »

My favourite wired earphones are the ones that come with the iphone. Don't own an iphone, but the missus has had a few and I use a pair from those.

You'd possibly pick up an unused pair second hand as a lot of iphone users buy the airpods with their phones.

On that note, I've ordered myself an early birthday present in these lads. Can't go too far wrong at 100 off - https://www.currys.ie/ieen/audio-and-headphones/headphones/headphones/sony-wh-1000xm3-wireless-bluetooth-noise-cancelling-headphones-black-10184616-pdt.html

I’ve got the Bose equivalent. There’s quite a lot of debate online about which is better. I really like the Bose my only minor complaint is that the battery life could be a tad longer. I’d be open to Sony though.

21-05-2019 12:10pm

Mr Tickle wrote: »

of course that's how the western propeganda media would portray it :pac:

I listened to a podcast about the show which included the writers and show runners and they detailed how they gathered information and from whom. As much as you can question everything if you wish, it appears that much of the content is accurate and verifiable.

There are fictional elements also, but tapes from the start actually exist and the collapse of the soviet union swiftened the release of previously controlled information.

Mr Tickle · 21-05-2019 12:11pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I listened to a podcast about the show which included the writers and show runners and they detailed how they gathered information and from whom. As much as you can question everything if you wish, it appears that much of the content is accurate and verifiable.

There are fictional elements also, but tapes from the start actually exist and the collapse of the soviet union swiftened the release of previously controlled information.

all part of the conspiracy you see.

What's the podcast if you don't mind? I'll give you a discount on a tinfoil hat in exchange

21-05-2019 12:28pm

Mr Tickle wrote: »

all part of the conspiracy you see.

What's the podcast if you don't mind? I'll give you a discount on a tinfoil hat in exchange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUeHPCYtWYQ

Here is the first part - they touch on sources in all the episodes and highlight the fictional and non fictional elements.

swiwi_ · 21-05-2019 5:57pm

LOL. UK potentially heading for a second Brexit vote. Unimaginable that this sort of thing would happen in Ireland

Neil3030 · 21-05-2019 6:07pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

Not sure if anyone a fan of F1 in the good ol’ days but RIP Niki Lauda

Fascinating guy. I saw a documentary a while ago on him. If I recall the story correctly, he owned a commercial airline and one of their 767 planes crashed into a jungle somewhere in South East Asia. The initial cause of the crash was attributed to pilot error, as the flight data showed the plane was intentionally put into a nose-dive. But Lauda refused to accept that his pilot had screwed up, flew out to the crash site, and funded both a search through the jungle for various parts of missing wreckage, and also various additional tests on flight simulators.

Turns out, that 767s had a gizmo on the engine that reversed the thrust to slow it down on landings. The instruction to pilots, should this ever accidentally reverse mid-air, was exactly what the pilot had done - put it into a nose-dive to regather velocity. But Lauda's research showed that this instruction was only tested up to a certain altitude, and beyond this altitude, it would result in a crash. The planes were consequently redesigned.

Probably would have taken another crash before Boeing had copped onto this, so a conservative estimate is that he saved hundreds of lives.

prawnsambo · 21-05-2019 6:08pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

LOL. UK potentially heading for a second Brexit vote. Unimaginable that this sort of thing would happen in Ireland

I doubt it very much. It's so couched in ifs and buts and built on the quicksand of Theresa May's ever diminishing term as PM that you could safely bet against it ever happening.

awec · 21-05-2019 6:08pm

Discussion of politics is against the charter.

swiwi_ · 21-05-2019 6:23pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

Fascinating guy. I saw a documentary a while ago on him. If I recall the story correctly, he owned a commercial airline and one of their 767 planes crashed into a jungle somewhere in South East Asia. The initial cause of the crash was attributed to pilot error, as the flight data showed the plane was intentionally put into a nose-dive. But Lauda refused to accept that his pilot had screwed up, flew out to the crash site, and funded both a search through the jungle for various parts of missing wreckage, and also various additional tests on flight simulators.

Turns out, that 767s had a gizmo on the engine that reversed the thrust to slow it down on landings. The instruction to pilots, should this ever accidentally reverse mid-air, was exactly what the pilot had done - put it into a nose-dive to regather velocity. But Lauda's research showed that this instruction was only tested up to a certain altitude, and beyond this altitude, it would result in a crash. The planes were consequently redesigned.

Probably would have taken another crash before Boeing had copped onto this, so a conservative estimate is that he saved hundreds of lives.

The film was decent too, the Hunt vs Lauda rivalry.

Obviously I'm happy that safety is paramount these days, but it does make the racing more sanitised and less interesting.

sydthebeat · 21-05-2019 6:45pm

awec wrote: »

Discussion of politics is against the charter.

At this stage is more an ongoing comedy....

Erik Shun · 21-05-2019 7:09pm

awec wrote: »

Discussion of politics is against the charter.

We've been discussing the politics of Westeros for the last 6 weeks nonstop!

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