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Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

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  • #1152
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I imagine it makes the event more family friendly and easier to police.


  • #1153
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Adamocovic wrote: »


    So some Catalan laws stopping them.

    Funny how same laws don't effect people who can afford to fork out for premium packages, hmmm


  • #1154
    Cool_CM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    Wasn't sure if it was still the case but quick search shows it seems to be according to ticketing sites:



    Also adds:



    So some Catalan laws stopping them.

    No doubt they sell the alcohol free stuff but it's a bit odd. I know in Italy last year the Fins had cleaned out most of the bars by the end. Was around one left on track near us that still had some sort of beer. I imagine it's a big income generator.

    Yeah, they do well non alcoholic beer with alcoholic prices.

    On a side note, interesting write up on Imola and F1 safety here
    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.imola-94-and-the-legacy-of-improved-safety.5P8zqEzNjKzYw8qdckoYFF.html


  • #1155
    Adamocovic
    Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    flazio wrote: »
    I imagine it makes the event more family friendly and easier to police.

    Just because they aren't selling drink there doesn't mean there aren't any drunks.

    Plenty of bars just outside the entrances for people to binge in. Would result in more thorough security checks being needed to make sure no one is sneaking in any booze. Think they charge over €10 for an alcohol free beer too so no doubt a few chancers!

    They've never made it quite clear the intentions behind it, so hard to say if it was intended to make it family friendly. There was speculation when it first banned alcohol back in 2015-2016 that they had just failed to get a permit to sell it and has been that way since, but hard to know.

    From my experience even with alcohol on track it's normally a great family atmosphere and not many problems. It is nice to have a drink sitting out in the sun chatting with other fans during the weekend.

    If it's actually a case of them struggling to get a track wide permit for consumption then it's mad.


  • #1156
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't buy alcohol in the Camp Nou either.


  • #1157
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    Just because they aren't selling drink there doesn't mean there aren't any drunks.

    Plenty of bars just outside the entrances for people to binge in. Would result in more thorough security checks being needed to make sure no one is sneaking in any booze. Think they charge over €10 for an alcohol free beer too so no doubt a few chancers!

    They've never made it quite clear the intentions behind it, so hard to say if it was intended to make it family friendly. There was speculation when it first banned alcohol back in 2015-2016 that they had just failed to get a permit to sell it and has been that way since, but hard to know.

    From my experience even with alcohol on track it's normally a great family atmosphere and not many problems. It is nice to have a drink sitting out in the sun chatting with other fans during the weekend.

    If it's actually a case of them struggling to get a track wide permit for consumption then it's mad.

    I was thinking the same re family atmosphere. I've been to a couple of GP. Once with the Mrs where we had a couple of drinks but very civilised and once with the lads which was a bit more "lads lads lads". In both cases I though it was always very safe and friendly. The atmosphere was very polite and even when tipsy I was conscious not to go OTT because it was a really lovely atmosphere. Maybe without booze is more family friendly.


  • #1158
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Killinator wrote: »
    Funny how same laws don't effect people who can afford to fork out for premium packages, hmmm

    cos the beer is 'free' in that case, law says you can't sell it...


  • #1159
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    cos the beer is 'free' in that case, law says you can't sell it...

    Nice loophole


  • #1160
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    when it first banned alcohol back in 2015-2016 that they had just failed to get a permit to sell it and has been that way since, but hard to know.


    Ah, that's it - I was about to say "there was plenty of beer and an overabundance of silly drunken Brits at 12am on the grandstands when I was there in 2014" :D


    Frankly...I don't dislike the idea, as I said when I went to the Spanish GP a few years ago, a good chunk of the audience were drunk before the GP2 race was over, I really don't know how much of the race they actually followed :)


    Also, I always thought Heineken sponsoring F1 to be a massive own-goal and a giant eff-off to all of the FIA road safety campaigns. Alcohol really shouldn't be advertised anywhere near things with wheels or wings.


  • #1161
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,462 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I think the 'I'm still driving' ads work in associating the brand but also drumming home the drink drive thing.
    I think the Jackie Stewart ad which was first I believe was really good as the 'still driving' made an element of sense given his age and him long retired etc.
    The Rosberg version slightly silly.


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  • #1162
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    mickdw wrote: »
    I think the 'I'm still driving' ads work in associating the brand but also drumming home the drink drive thing.
    I think the Jackie Stewart ad which was first I believe was really good as the 'still driving' made an element of sense given his age and him long retired etc.
    The Rosberg version slightly silly.

    I honestly think it makes no sense whatsoever - in the end it's still advertisement but with a disclaimer attached ("hey folks, we told you not to drink and drive, don't blame us!"). The "don't drink & drive" message doesn't need a beer logo attached to it...


  • #1163
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,462 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Ya but if you are going to have a drinks company as a major sponsor anyway, I think it was a neat enough bit of advertising and as I said, Stewart driving off in a sports car, declaring he was still driving was pretty good.


  • #1164
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Heineken are now promoting the 0.0% beer moreso when it's tied with a Motorsports event.

    And now lots of brewers are pouring money into developing non alcoholic beers

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  • #1165
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    astrofluff wrote: »
    Heineken are now promoting the 0.0% beer moreso when it's tied with a Motorsports event.

    There is one of those ads where a driver is pulled over by a cop for drinking and he gets all smug about it being a 0% bottle. Very mixed message IMO...


  • #1166
    Charlie-Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    Yes, there's gotta be a better way to advertise the product. The latest ad on the radio says you can drink it at your desk!!? WTF. So we're passing it off as a soft drink? Oh wait, it is a soft drink. Maybe that's what they're trying to do, show it's a soft drink that's acceptable to get parking tickets while drinking it. :rolleyes:

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  • #1167
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    At least the dutch will more than likely serve pints at their track :P

    Anyone know exactly why the Spanish GP doesn't serve alcohol? I know the hospital suites have it (not that I've been in them!) but why is the reason on track it isn't sold? Surely would bring in a lot more money if it was.

    Ive had alcohol on the Spanish GP on multiple times! Saying that, I have been in about 3 years, so it may have changed!

    EDIT: Nevermind, I read the rest of the post!

    Anyway, in relation to the 0.0% alcohol piece, I actually think its a way for these companies to get kids hooked onto their products at an early stage.

    Just imagine if Marlboro brought out a "tar and nicotine free version" of a cigarette (and it looked the exact same), there would be uproar, as it would be perceived to being "targeted advertising to get 'non-smokers' to smoke". Sure, didnt they ban chocolate cigarettes for that EXACT reason?


  • #1168
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Erdinger is my choice of drink! That'd be my regular "tipple"


  • #1169
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


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    Pray for Toto


  • #1170
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    pjohnson wrote: »
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    Pray for Toto

    Right so, another 1-2 then


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  • #1171
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    antodeco wrote: »

    Anyway, in relation to the 0.0% alcohol piece, I actually think its a way for these companies to get kids hooked onto their products at an early stage.

    Just imagine if Marlboro brought out a "tar and nicotine free version" of a cigarette (and it looked the exact same), there would be uproar, as it would be perceived to being "targeted advertising to get 'non-smokers' to smoke". Sure, didnt they ban chocolate cigarettes for that EXACT reason?

    Exactly that. I’d be surprised if booze companies expect to make money from alcohol free beers. I’d say it’s simply a way to advertise the brand without advertising alcohol.

    The Guinness clear ads aren’t technically advertising a product because it’s suggesting people drink water instead. But it’s an ad for Guinness at the same time.

    Heineken is actually selling an alcohol free beer but I doubt they expect it to be a big seller. Just a handy vehicle to advertise the brand while getting around alcohol advertising rules


  • #1172
    Harika
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭Harika


    antodeco wrote: »
    Adamocovic wrote: »
    At least the dutch will more than likely serve pints at their track :P

    Anyone know exactly why the Spanish GP doesn't serve alcohol? I know the hospital suites have it (not that I've been in them!) but why is the reason on track it isn't sold? Surely would bring in a lot more money if it was.

    Ive had alcohol on the Spanish GP on multiple times! Saying that, I have been in about 3 years, so it may have changed!

    EDIT: Nevermind, I read the rest of the post!

    Anyway, in relation to the 0.0% alcohol piece, I actually think its a way for these companies to get kids hooked onto their products at an early stage.

    Just imagine if Marlboro brought out a "tar and nicotine free version" of a cigarette (and it looked the exact same), there would be uproar, as it would be perceived to being "targeted advertising to get 'non-smokers' to smoke". Sure, didnt they ban chocolate cigarettes for that EXACT reason?

    There were chocolate cigarettes years ago but they are banned. To stop juveniles smoking, menthol was banned.
    For alcohol free beer, paulaner, Erdinger, Baltika, Gerstl and stiegl are great. Outside of Ireland there are far more brands, also in the Radler section with excellent options. And I know people are holding their noses with alcohol free beer, but compared to carling, Heineken and those other mass beers I prefer them anytime.
    BTW for the race thread, would be cool if someone else could start one as I won't be able to.


  • #1173
    Harika
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭Harika


    https://mobile.twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1126201519546802177
    Rio for F1 instead of interlagos


  • #1174
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Harika wrote: »
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1126201519546802177
    Rio for F1 instead of interlagos

    so we'll get another ****ty Tilkedrome instead of one of the greatest tracks on the planet, can't wait!


  • #1175
    tigerboon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭tigerboon


    Harika wrote: »
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Motorsport/status/1126201519546802177
    Rio for F1 instead of interlagos

    F1 is finished. Crap races on crap tracks from here on. Races are always going to be boring if you have ultra engineered cars racing around ultra engineered circuits.


  • #1176
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    McLaren have now adopted the Alfa Romeo and Ferrari style front wing.

    Ferrari are running a new upgraded engine now they brought the upgrade in ahead of schedule. Alfa Romeo and Haas will not yet adopt this engine and are staying on schedule.


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  • #1177
    Nic_Col
    Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Nic_Col


    F1 has been "finished" as long as I've been watching it since around 1993, textbook nostalgia bias. It has always been hailed as better in the past.

    That's not saying your criticisms are not valid however, it's always a shame to see classic tracks make way for bland modern tracks.

    I'd love to see the French GP return to Magny Cours, that Paul Ricard is an optical abomination will all that horrible stripy paint.


  • #1178
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Harika wrote: »
    BTW for the race thread, would be cool if someone else could start one as I won't be able to.

    Thanks for doing the race threads, I just kind of come in expecting them to be there :)

    Round 5 in your honour https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057979416


  • #1179
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    With F1 bringing in 18 inch wheels for 2021, F2 will run them starting from next season. Good idea, gives Pirelli a year to work with them and solve any issues which might come up before F1 adopts it

    https://twitter.com/FIA_F2/status/1126469053944668161


  • #1180
    Adamocovic
    Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    skipper_G wrote: »
    With F1 bringing in 18 inch wheels for 2021, F2 will run them starting from next season. Good idea, gives Pirelli a year to work with them and solve any issues which might come up before F1 adopts it

    https://twitter.com/FIA_F2/status/1126469053944668161

    What sort of impact will the change have?
    I hope it's going to be positive, but I just can't get used to the look of them. No doubt will eventually but just one of those things that looks so weird when first seen.

    25891.jpg


  • #1181
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nic_Col wrote: »
    F1 has been "finished" as long as I've been watching it since around 1993, textbook nostalgia bias. It has always been hailed as better in the past.

    That's not saying your criticisms are not valid however, it's always a shame to see classic tracks make way for bland modern tracks.

    I'd love to see the French GP return to Magny Cours, that Paul Ricard is an optical abomination will all that horrible stripy paint.

    How are they doing for viewing figures and attendance? I'll be very interested to see which GPs can hold on through the next recession that comes along.
    I've had a few phases of drifting away from watching F1 and I can feel another one starting. This time though after a boring race I can't think of any reason to watch the next one. Noise is ****, cars aren't exciting to look at or watch around the tracks, drivers are afraid to put the boot down during a race. I disagreed with some criticisms over the last few years but it's all added up to a massive pot of 'meh' this year in my opinion.


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  • #1182
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How are they doing for viewing figures and attendance? I'll be very interested to see which GPs can hold on through the next recession that comes along.
    I've had a few phases of drifting away from watching F1 and I can feel another one starting. This time though after a boring race I can't think of any reason to watch the next one. Noise is ****, cars aren't exciting to look at or watch around the tracks, drivers are afraid to put the boot down during a race. I disagreed with some criticisms over the last few years but it's all added up to a massive pot of 'meh' this year in my opinion.

    I'd say you need to phrase the question in terms of how much money F1 is making from selling the rights. So while far fewer people are watching on Sky sports, the ones who do watch are paying through the nose for it.

    It depends on how the sum paid by sky compares to the sum the received on free to air tv.


  • #1183
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    What sort of impact will the change have?
    I hope it's going to be positive, but I just can't get used to the look of them. No doubt will eventually but just one of those things that looks so weird when first seen.

    Not sure if it will make any difference to the racing but it will impact the cars in a lot of ways so there's an immediate financial impact, the teams do enjoy spending stupid money for any advantage. A bigger rim reduces the volume of air inside the tyre and the changed profile will impact elasticity and in turn the suspension. Brakes will have to be redesigned to optimise airflow and cooling. Aerodynamics will be massively impacted because the current gen cars are built around controlling and optimising airflow around the tyres.


  • #1184
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How are they doing for viewing figures and attendance? I'll be very interested to see which GPs can hold on through the next recession that comes along.
    I've had a few phases of drifting away from watching F1 and I can feel another one starting. This time though after a boring race I can't think of any reason to watch the next one. Noise is ****, cars aren't exciting to look at or watch around the tracks, drivers are afraid to put the boot down during a race. I disagreed with some criticisms over the last few years but it's all added up to a massive pot of 'meh' this year in my opinion.

    Don't know about attendances, but viewing figures have definitely taken a hit over the last decade, something in the range of 15-20%. But as El Duderino says they are making more money still, don't Sky pay something like 150 million a year for the rights ? That's just UK & Ireland, what about other countries, I think Sky Italia also have an exclusive deal.

    Another thing to consider is F1 TV, I don't know if they release stats on the subscriptions for that. Every sub there is 1 less TV viewer


  • #1185
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    skipper_G wrote: »
    Don't know about attendances, but viewing figures have definitely taken a hit over the last decade, something in the range of 15-20%. But as El Duderino says they are making more money still, don't Sky pay something like 150 million a year for the rights ? That's just UK & Ireland, what about other countries, I think Sky Italia also have an exclusive deal.

    Another thing to consider is F1 TV, I don't know if they release stats on the subscriptions for that. Every sub there is 1 less TV viewer

    It cant be a good long term plan because it's lost the critical mass where you can talk about F1 with the lads and other lads will watch it because its on free to air tv. That's how I started watching in the first place. But i'd say they aren't suffering right now or in the short term future.

    China is probably where the great opportunity for growth exists. So it would be completely worth their while putting git on free TV in China at a discount for a few years to drum up interest. Europe is probably saturated by comparison


  • #1186
    Jordan 199
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    so we'll get another ****ty Tilkedrome instead of one of the greatest tracks on the planet, can't wait!

    Not all Tilkedrome tracks are rubbish though. Circuit of the Americas and Istanbul Park in Turkey are excellent tracks he designed.


  • #1187
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Jordan 199 wrote: »
    Not all Tilkedrome tracks are rubbish though. Circuit of the Americas and Istanbul Park in Turkey are excellent tracks he designed.

    He also redesigned Hockenheim which was bloody sh1te. Give me the long straights into the Forrest any day


  • #1188
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,134 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Patricio O'Ward has joined the Red Bull Junior Team. Hes apparently Mexican but that surname is something else. :pac:


  • #1189
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Patricio O'Ward has joined the Red Bull Junior Team. Hes apparently Mexican but that surname is something else. :pac:

    discussions on twitter about whether or not he has enough points for a super licence already. Interesting development all the same


  • #1190
    AMKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Adamocovic wrote: »
    What sort of impact will the change have?
    I hope it's going to be positive, but I just can't get used to the look of them. No doubt will eventually but just one of those things that looks so weird when first seen.

    25891.jpg

    Its because we are so used to seeing the cars on big fat tyres so when we see them on skinny tyres and big wheels it just looks odd.

    I think by the time they start using them do the cars will also look different so they might look better and might not take too long to get used to.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #1191
    Adamocovic
    Registered Users Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    It cant be a good long term plan because it's lost the critical mass where you can talk about F1 with the lads and other lads will watch it because its on free to air tv. That's how I started watching in the first place. But i'd say they aren't suffering right now or in the short term future.

    China is probably where the great opportunity for growth exists. So it would be completely worth their while putting git on free TV in China at a discount for a few years to drum up interest. Europe is probably saturated by comparison

    I'm a big fan of the F1 TV. It's an actually affordable way of watching but unfortunately sky have the rights in Britain and Ireland (and other places) so it's not a real option there yet.

    I know for American football I use the game pass and it's perfect. Not forking out a lot overall and just paying for what I want to watch.

    Also found this odd but when I was in France I'd go down to the pub and watch the F1 at times. Place would be packed. Obviously was due to where I was living I think and the French drivers from nearby but was cool. Rarely ever watched races in a pub before.


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  • #1192
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    I'd say you need to phrase the question in terms of how much money F1 is making from selling the rights. So while far fewer people are watching on Sky sports, the ones who do watch are paying through the nose for it.

    It depends on how the sum paid by sky compares to the sum the received on free to air tv.
    I mean more in terms of popularity rather than finances. Being a part of the popular consciousness etc. If it wasn't for Hamilton I doubt we'd see near as much coverage in the UK media and even that seems pretty dialled back. I remember the new F1 champ being headline news on BBC in the evening. Maybe it's just me.


  • #1193
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,462 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    I think when they bring the bigger wheels in with the low profile tyres, the old ones will just look completely wrong after about 2 races.


  • #1194
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Jordan 199 wrote: »
    Not all Tilkedrome tracks are rubbish though. Circuit of the Americas and Istanbul Park in Turkey are excellent tracks he designed.

    cota is just like paul ricard, it hurts the eyes to look at.


  • #1195
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,891 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


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    F2 will have bigger wheels for 2020.


  • #1196
    AMKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    cota is just like paul ricard, it hurts the eyes to look at.

    Have to disagree. I think COTA is a stunning looking track but agree that the Paul Ricard track was way overdone last year. Maybe they will have toned it down a bit for this year. Must have cost them a fortune in paint for the track last year. Surprised i did not make the ''Guinness book of World Records'' for most paint at a track or most expensive track to paint or something along does lines anyway.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #1197
    Rossi IRL
    Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Are they losing the Spanish gp aswell? Seen it mentioned abit.


  • #1198
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,552 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Are they losing the Spanish gp aswell? Seen it mentioned abit.

    Joe Saward reckons it's a gonner already. Zandvort near Amsterdam is almost definitely in. He reckons that more will also be lost in the near future because they want races in New York, London and Miami - destination cities. Silverstone is a risk, As soon as red bull stop paying for the GP in Austria, its gone too.


  • #1199
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    And probably Germany is a goner as well


  • #1200
    skipper_G
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Joe Saward reckons it's a gonner already. Zandvort near Amsterdam is almost definitely in. He reckons that more will also be lost in the near future because they want races in New York, London and Miami - destination cities. Silverstone is a risk, As soon as red bull stop paying for the GP in Austria, its gone too.

    Silverstone is an interesting one, he was saying they've done a deal for 3 years. Probably the rumour of London has them worried and wanting certain assurances. Silverstone needs big crowds to cover the race fees, an alternative in London might potentially hurt their attendance


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    Was having a read of this article referencing comments that Chase Carey made on a call with financial analysts. Added to the rumours that have been doing the rounds I'm going to say, Silverstone & Monza have signed new contracts, Mexico will follow suit. Zandvoort joins Vietnam as new races and we will lose Spain & Germany.


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