Brexit discussion thread VIII (Please read OP before posting)

Very good BBC Spotlight programme at the moment. The presenter is doing a brilliant dissection of ERG treason of the DUP/Ulster last Friday showing JRM's twists and turns to do exactly what he said he'd never do: abandon the DUP and vote for the deal. Same with BJ and others. More than cracks showing now. Expect the sellout before 12 April.

It's nothing short of astonishing that these Tory toffs are still entertaining the sullen, uncouth plebs of the DUP when the English could have their much harder Brexit - greater "freedom" for England - if they just threw the DUP off the cliff. When their bluff is called/when the English economy comes crashing, the Tory toffs will push the lower classes of the DUP under the bus and look out for England alone (even more quickly than they've economically been pushing the English working class under the bus for decades and scapegoating the EU for the consequences of their own Tory rightwing economic policies).

Edward Carson's 1921 reflection is felicitous:

I think I was rather exuberant over the way the Prime Minister dealt with Mr. Asquith, but at that time I did not know, as I know now, that I was a mere puppet in a political game. I was in earnest. I was not playing politics.... What a fool I was. I was only a puppet, and so was Ulster, and so was Ireland, in the political game that was to get the Conservative Party into power. And of all the men in 45 my experience that I think are the most loathsome it is those who will sell their friends for the purpose of conciliating their enemies, and, perhaps, still worse, the men who climb up a ladder into power of which even I may have been part of a humble rung, and then, when they have got into power, kick the ladder away without any concern for the pain, or injury, or mischief, or damage that they do to those who have helped them to gain power... (Edward Carson, 14 December 1921)

Daniel Kawczynski, a Tory ERG MP ally of JRM, has just said on tonight's BBC Spotlight programme, in direct and explicit response to Dodd's "I'd rather stay in the EU than threaten the Union", that basically the DUP can go fúck themselves, or verbatim: 'No, No, No. We are leaving the European Union and despite my respect for the DUP nothing or nobody will stop us from leaving the European Union.'

It seems the DUP are only now waking up to the fact that the smart thing for preserving their Union would have been to have been pro-Remain all along. It took them a long time.

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It seems the morons in the DUP are only now waking up to the fact that the smart thing for preserving their Union would have been to have been pro-Remain all along. It took them a long time.

I hope everyone has seen that clip. It really is worth watching and realising the depth of the sh*t that they have landed themselves in.....

https://twitter.com/BBCSpotlightNI/status/1113199323838390272