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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    Would it be ok to leave out freedom movement of goods? covering a good few topics including comp law.

    Also did comp law fmg come up in the last sitting ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    Would it be ok to leave out freedom movement of goods? covering a good few topics including comp law.

    Also did comp law fmg come up in the last sitting ???

    If you're covering competition and all of the other regulars, I'd say you should be fine. It will almost definitely come up as a Q but then again so will competition and I'm leaving it out :pac: the course to too big - can't possibly cover it all!

    FMG came up as an essay in the context of an essay on Art 34+36 proportionality and protection of human health.

    Competition came up in a problem in context of State Aid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭lisac223


    Looks good but maybe just know a few short topics like Strong v Bird, Advancement, Maxims in case there's one of those 3 part questions.

    You can learn those really quickly.

    Oh yeah I actually have a short note on Strong v Bird and DMC so might add them in thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭sapphire309


    Can anybody explain how the Denkavit case comes into an analysis of Article 110 please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭scooby321


    Equity

    Has mandatory Perpetual injunctions ever come up? I'm assuming mandatory interlocutory has.

    Also, aiming to cover:

    1. Injunctions: QT & Interlocutory
    2. SP & Rectification
    3. Express: 3 Certainties & DMC
    4. Purpose: Charitable, Cy Pres & Non-Charitable
    5. Resulting: Re Osaba/ Suplus & Advancement
    6. Constructive
    7. Trusteeship
    8. Satisfaction

    This is my 3rd time sitting equity so any thoughts on the above would be much appreciated. Do not want to face it again in October :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    scooby321 wrote: »
    Equity

    Has mandatory Perpetual injunctions ever come up? I'm assuming mandatory interlocutory has.

    Also, aiming to cover:

    1. Injunctions: QT & Interlocutory
    2. SP & Rectification
    3. Express: 3 Certainties & DMC
    4. Purpose: Charitable, Cy Pres & Non-Charitable
    5. Resulting: Re Osaba/ Suplus & Advancement
    6. Constructive
    7. Trusteeship
    8. Satisfaction

    This is my 3rd time sitting equity so any thoughts on the above would be much appreciated. Do not want to face it again in October :(

    Hey!
    I'm leaving out Injunctions, bar QT and Anton Pillar so can't help you with regards to them (I hate them so much). I'm also repeating it so i feel your pain :(
    I'm covering

    1. Purpose: Charitable, Cy Pres
    2. SP & Rectification
    3. Express: 3 Certainties & DMC and S v B also
    4. Tracing
    5. Resulting: Re Osaba/ Suplus & Advancement & Quistclose
    6. Constructive
    7. Trusteeship
    8. Satisfaction
    9. QT and AP
    Also going to look over Estoppel just in case. Its similar to yours i just have a few extra because of my lack of injunctions. Hopefully we'll be ok with all that. Its so heavy. SOS
    (ALSO, Am i crazy leaving out non-charitable?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭IsaacWunder


    Do FE1s expire? Once you have all eight how long have you to get a training contract?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭scooby321


    sbbyrne wrote: »
    Hey!
    I'm leaving out Injunctions, bar QT and Anton Pillar so can't help you with regards to them (I hate them so much). I'm also repeating it so i feel your pain :(
    I'm covering

    1. Purpose: Charitable, Cy Pres
    2. SP & Rectification
    3. Express: 3 Certainties & DMC and S v B also
    4. Tracing
    5. Resulting: Re Osaba/ Suplus & Advancement & Quistclose
    6. Constructive
    7. Trusteeship
    8. Satisfaction
    9. QT and AP
    Also going to look over Estoppel just in case. Its similar to yours i just have a few extra because of my lack of injunctions. Hopefully we'll be ok with all that. Its so heavy. SOS
    (ALSO, Am i crazy leaving out non-charitable?)


    That is very similar, hopefully we will be covered this time! Someone posted the FE-1 pass rate and I saw it was 48% in October 2017 so it's freaked me out a bit :/ have EU to cover also so that will cut me for time. If you don't have another exam I think a one-page run through of non-charitable would be handy to have just incase as it hasn't come up in a while and is quite short


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,624 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Do FE1s expire? Once you have all eight how long have you to get a training contract?

    I believe the FE1's passed are wiped after a five year period.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    scooby321 wrote: »
    That is very similar, hopefully we will be covered this time! Someone posted the FE-1 pass rate and I saw it was 48% in October 2017 so it's freaked me out a bit :/ have EU to cover also so that will cut me for time. If you don't have another exam I think a one-page run through of non-charitable would be handy to have just incase as it hasn't come up in a while and is quite short

    Its an awful subject, my most hated so far. I don't have another one this sitting, this is my last one so i will run through it, thanks for the heads up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭scooby321


    sbbyrne wrote: »
    Its an awful subject, my most hated so far. I don't have another one this sitting, this is my last one so i will run through it, thanks for the heads up!

    Agreed! well hopefully it will be our last time sitting it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Pyggg


    Anyone else have 3 in a row next week ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Just curious what people identified in the succession problem question in property last week?

    Also, what is generally asked for remedies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 marc24


    Pyggg wrote: »
    Anyone else have 3 in a row next week ?

    Me:( Equity, contract and EU. Going to be a sleep deprived haze. Although I did three in a row in Oct too and somehow managed to pass. Berocca and Coffee are my only tips.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    Contract people - for consumer protection legislation I have:

    SOG 1893 & SOGSA 1980
    Unfair Contract Terms 1995
    Away from Business Premises 1989
    Direct Selling 2001
    Consumer Information, Cancellation and Other Rights Regulations 2013

    Am I missing anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Insta92


    Stressed out about EU law. Plan on having the following covered:

    Institutions
    Sources of EU Law
    Application of EU Law (Supremacy, direct effect, principal of effectiveness and efficiency)
    Preliminary Reference Procedure
    Annulment Action
    FMOG
    FTPS
    Citizenship
    Equality

    I am really hoping to cover Competition law but don’t think I will have the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    I think you have it all covered, only other ones I can think of are Consumer Rights Directive 2011 and Consumer Sales Directive 1999. The Sales Directive was transposed via European Communities Directive 2003. This question came up for me last year had a lot prepped on it. I didn't go into any case law as the question never asked for it and examiner commented that I should have so be sure and throw in a few cases to make sure your well covered. Last year it was essay and then you could have applied Unfair Ct terms to another problem question so consumer law def worth doing, she definitely really likes consumer law qs

    Contract people - for consumer protection legislation I have:

    SOG 1893 & SOGSA 1980
    Unfair Contract Terms 1995
    Away from Business Premises 1989
    Direct Selling 2001
    Consumer Information, Cancellation and Other Rights Regulations 2013

    Am I missing anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    MS liability I think is fairly short prob not whole question but could come up and kinda links in to others like direct effect....I think!

    General principles is a good one too, I'm actually leaving out competition as well like its only ever 1 q and its so broad with mergers and state aid. I think state aid up last year so if your caught for time maybe just focus on mergers and compet? Not sure though cause I have not looked at all at competition covering all others than that. I wish he done away with the case note and just had an actual other topic you could answer
    Insta92 wrote: »
    Stressed out about EU law. Plan on having the following covered:

    Institutions
    Sources of EU Law
    Application of EU Law (Supremacy, direct effect, principal of effectiveness and efficiency)
    Preliminary Reference Procedure
    Annulment Action
    FMOG
    FTPS
    Citizenship
    Equality

    I am really hoping to cover Competition law but don’t think I will have the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭user115


    Anyone who did city colleges course what tips did they give for EU?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 gfettig


    do we all agree that the older mareva 'how have courts endeavoured to balance rights' has now morphed into the more common 'less restrictive approach' style essay question, or does it seem that they are separate inquiries?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Fe1hayes


    Contract people - for consumer protection legislation I have:

    SOG 1893 & SOGSA 1980
    Unfair Contract Terms 1995
    Away from Business Premises 1989
    Direct Selling 2001
    Consumer Information, Cancellation and Other Rights Regulations 2013

    Am I missing anything?

    Can I ask Is the away from business premises (distance selling act) not repealed by 2013 act which cumulatived them altogether or is that another act ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    Fe1hayes wrote: »
    Can I ask Is the away from business premises (distance selling act) not repealed by 2013 act which cumulatived them altogether or is that another act ?

    I was hoping this! Two different things in two different manuals but yes I think so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Fe1hayes


    I was hoping this! Two different things in two different manuals but yes I think so

    I just looked at the report from 2017 Autumn qu 6 it has been repealed(she was saying people were unaware).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    Can someone explain Initial/Subsequent failure with regards to Cy-Pres doctrine please? I keep getting the two confused, even though i dont think its that complicated! :)

    Thanks!

    (I know there was a post a few pages back but i can't seem to find it again!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    Fe1hayes wrote: »
    I just looked at the report from 2017 Autumn qu 6 it has been repealed(she was saying people were unaware).

    Perfect thank you - so am I right in thinking under the 2013 act now you have 14 days not 7 as per 1989?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭LawGirl3434


    Contract - can anyone confirm/ correct this? So confused

    Undue Influence:

    Class 1 - actual - need to show relationship of trust and transaction of no personal benefit/ manifest disadvantage
    Class 2A - presumed - e.g. doctor/ patient - just need to show relationship then evidential burden shifts and don't need to prove unfairness of the bargain
    Class 2B - de facto - need to show relationship of trust/ confidence but once you do evidential burden shifts and you do need to prove unfairness of the bargain

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 marc24


    user115 wrote: »
    I think you have it all covered, only other ones I can think of are Consumer Rights Directive 2011 and Consumer Sales Directive 1999. The Sales Directive was transposed via European Communities Directive 2003. This question came up for me last year had a lot prepped on it. I didn't go into any case law as the question never asked for it and examiner commented that I should have so be sure and throw in a few cases to make sure your well covered. Last year it was essay and then you could have applied Unfair Ct terms to another problem question so consumer law def worth doing, she definitely really likes consumer law qs


    Does anyone have any cases for the EU directives section? I have a couple for the SOG but couldn't find any cases for the EU stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    Contract - can anyone confirm/ correct this? So confused

    Undue Influence:

    Class 1 - actual - need to show relationship of trust and transaction of no personal benefit/ manifest disadvantage
    Class 2A - presumed - e.g. doctor/ patient - just need to show relationship then evidential burden shifts and don't need to prove unfairness of the bargain
    Class 2B - de facto - need to show relationship of trust/ confidence but once you do evidential burden shifts and you do need to prove unfairness of the bargain

    Thanks!

    Yeah that's how I'd see it, 2a and 2b have opposite burdens of proof ie there is no assumption in class 2b but in 2a there is a clear suspicion there... Class 1 there could also be straight up bullying etc so you don't necessarily need manifest disadvantage see CIBC Mortgages v Pitt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    sbbyrne wrote: »
    Can someone explain Initial/Subsequent failure with regards to Cy-Pres doctrine please? I keep getting the two confused, even though i dont think its that complicated! :)

    Thanks!

    (I know there was a post a few pages back but i can't seem to find it again!)

    Initial failure something like a trust for the prevention of smallpox right now in 2019 when it has been cured, that fails as there is no such disease.

    Subsquent failure something like a trust is 1950 set up to prevent small box, then when smallpox was cured in the 1970s what can one do with the money left? Go to court and the court can use Cy pres so that the money can be used for something else eg malaria prevention.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭sbbyrne


    Initial failure something like a trust for the prevention of smallpox right now in 2019 when it has been cured, that fails as there is no such disease.

    Subsquent failure something like a trust is 1950 set up to prevent small box, then when smallpox was cured in the 1970s what can one do with the money left? Go to court and the court can use Cy pres so that the money can be used for something else eg malaria prevention.

    That's a great way of explaining it, i get it now, finally! Thank you so much that's really helpful!


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