Mass shooting New Zealand Mosque - MOD NOTE POST #1

ClanofLams wrote: »

If you did hear it, it was incorrect.

The minority government in control is a left wing alliance comprised of Labour and the Greens.

Not quite incorrect.

Yes Labour and Greens are in the coalition.

But the other coalition partner is Winston Peters (I'm not sure what his party is called now). He was acting PM while Arden took maternity leave. And he certainly comes with anit-immigration policies, which can be seen im the restrictions on foreigners buying property.

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Death penalty would not deter this kind of mass shooting. Alot of mass shooters end up killing themselves.

True absolutely true, and they're more than likely dead inside anyhow.
I cannot get my head around these mass killings, the observation of who's to blame run's very deep and in my opinion it's nothing to do with politics, religion or society.

It's more to do with the someone's neuro linguistic programming, maybe some day science will be able to test newborns DNA and see if they have that destructive gene or pathway.

But nowadays people just want to blame politics and Religion, not everyone has that bridge in their psyche that enables them to cross the Rubicon of inflicting unwarranted pain and death on innocence.....

Pter wrote: »

Mod

Apologies for confusing you. I'll edit in a mod tag for your clarity.

This tragedy happened in NZ, of course we are discussing NZ. That makes sense. If it happened in the US, would you come in saying 'oh what do the Argentinians have to say about this.'

Some people want EVERYTHING to come back to what's happening in the US. Frankly what the US gun control people on either side of the debate have to say about NZ gun control is hugely irrelevant.

It's off topic lads. If you want to discuss gun control in the US, go for it. This human tragedy is still only 1 day old and as I have warned before, if you can't stick to the topic at hand without brining in irrelevant side discussions, then don't post. I don't think i could have been clearer on this. STOP BRINGING THINGS BACK TO US POLITICAL POINT SCORING.

Nothing worse than putting the US or any other country or leader on an almighty pedestal to gain points in a discussion about something which happened thousands of miles away.

Politics and these atrocious acts don't mix

Well not in my head anyhow, I look at it more scientifically.

Tacklebox wrote: »

Nothing worse than putting the US or any other country or leader on an almighty pedestal to gain points in a discussion about something which happened thousands of miles away.

TBF we all ready had a comparison between New Zealand and Australia on gun control, they are thousands of miles away from each other.

Gun control is part of the story, it's highly relevant, we know this because the PM stood up yesterday and said that gun control laws will change and how do countries sometimes legislate on certain things?

They look to other countries who adopted similar methods.

That said musing what the NRA in America thinks of it, is not relevant. Who cares what they think TBH.

Considering the island of Ireland has a fine record of producing domestic terrorists I'm really glad that guns are highly restricted.

biko wrote: »

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/zealand-terrorist-attack-suspect-grins-court-190316011147796.html

Lol, this is what happens when you use idiots as reporters. Or maybe they are just not in touch.
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1249757-ok-symbol-%F0%9F%91%8C

I really don't like that the okay hand gesture has been hijacked, there aren't that many to begin with. Always used it as an okay symbol, but also in school you'd try to get someone to look at the circle. Feels like if the word fag is banned.

I grew up smoking fags while giving the okay hand signal. It's times like this that makes me hate we live in the Anglosphere as we import way too much nonsense from the US and the UK because they are so much bigger.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I really don't like that the okay hand gesture has been hijacked.

Unfortunately this could mean a regular unknowing person gets attacked by Antifa or some other violent group that think this meme is a real thing.

On topic, there are many similarities between Breivik's attack 2011 and this guy.
I hope it's not a start of lone-wolf "revenge" attacks

batgoat wrote: »

Well, legislation on firearms did prevent another Dunblane massacre happening. Similar for Australia. So yep you're gonna get bombers but spree shootings have been eradicated in the UK and Australia.

TBH I think they were so rare in the UK and Australia, it's very hard to state that gun control eradicated them.

Well we know for a fact it didn't eradicate them in the UK.

The culture unlike other countries just didn't exist.

Even just by reading the messages here he's actually achieving what he wanted in his mainfesto. He set out to cause division. He picked assault rifles so as to link in the US into the discussion. He hand picked names PewDiePie or whatever his name's is, wrote right wing 'martyrs' on his weapons so as to drag both sides into the argument. He chose NZ as it was a soft target and to show nowhere is safe. He live-streamed himself. He then gave himself up without a fight even though he had two more live weapons in his car so he could sit back and enjoy the sh*tstorm. By dragging people through the sh*t and pitting them against each other, causing division, hes achieving exactly what he set out to achieve.

Delighted they blurred his face. They should throw him in a hole and let the world forget about him. Wipe his name from the records.

One other thing, can they handcuff these f*ckers from behind. Apparently he gave some right wing salute in court. Brevik did the same . Handcuff their hands behind their backs ffs. Do not give them more of a platform.