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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    OOnegative wrote: »
    No problem you criticising the Steelers but take the blinkers off every now and then, your not always right.

    Oh, I know I'm not always right and have admitted many times here when I'm proved wrong. A lot of this is opinion on how players and organizations use their leverage and there is no real 'right' answer, just opinions.

    It is however just lazy to try to equate criticism with disliking a team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Paully D wrote: »

    Again, those Steelers numbers for guarantees have been proved repeatedly to be incorrect.

    The Steelers need to promote whoever leaked them to the media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Paully D wrote: »

    He seriously wanted out of the Steel City or his agent still uses fingers & toes to add!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Oh, I know I'm not always right and have admitted many times here when I'm proved wrong. A lot of this is opinion on how players and organizations use their leverage and there is no real 'right' answer, just opinions.

    It is however just lazy to try to equate criticism with disliking a team.

    I’m not criticising you one bit, you just come across as a Steelers hater which you have said you are not. Good enough for me, we all have our opinions as you say, none always right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Tate signing with the Giants. Apparently $37.5m with $23m guaranteed.

    Have no idea what they're trying to do signing him. Is there any sort of plan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Tate signing with the Giants. Apparently $37.5m with $23m guaranteed.

    Have no idea what they're trying to do signing him. Is there any sort of plan?

    They’ll be losing a comp pick so. Not the most clever idea when in rebuild mode to say the least!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Tate signing with the Giants. Apparently $37.5m with $23m guaranteed.

    Have no idea what they're trying to do signing him. Is there any sort of plan?

    Fcuk me he was linked with Steelers few hours back, that’s way to much money for him!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Paully D wrote: »
    They’ll be losing a comp pick so. Not the most clever idea when in rebuild mode to say the least!

    Another brain fart by Gettleman by looks of things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,941 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Haha Clinton-Dix signed by the Bears, 1-year $3.5 million.

    Was saying on the Bears thread earlier when this was rumoured, he obviously has great potential upside, but was dropped by the Packers with good reason, and didn't do anything with the Skins either (though to be fair he arrived there mid season). Not much to lose for the Bears with that contract though, I think it's worth it, in terms of pure potential he would be a step up from Amos, but I think Amos is a surer bet to perform. But on his 2016 form, alongside Jackson, could make for a very daunting secondary in Chicago again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    He was never any more than a liability who made some highlight reel plays to stay relevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    I thought he would go to the Pats. He is a good receiver and they had to give Eli someone to throw to now OBJ Is gone.

    As for a plan they’ve got a lot of good picks to try to rebuild now. It’s probably not the way most people would have done it but there must be some plan behind all these moves. They’ll be lucky if the fans don’t tear down the building before it’s all over though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Bring Nelson home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Foxtroll, it’s really pathetic that you can’t let the Pats out of your head. Criticism, no prob. Weird infatuation, just sad.
    Your ego is this bad when SF kinda suck. Imagine how bad it’d be if you had the success of the Pats.
    Let it go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭cosatron


    Bring Nelson home.

    Yea please and put him in the slot and dont resign cobb


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    cosatron wrote: »
    Yea please and put him in the slot and dont resign cobb

    He'd be more dangerous than Graham in the red zone too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Hes about to turn 34, there can't be much demand out there for him. Would be great if he came back to the Packers on a value deal for a year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    He was never any more than a liability who made some highlight reel plays to stay relevant.

    He was good in 2015, excellent in 2016, but fell off a lot in 2017 along with a number of teammates who seemed to just lose all motivation. Didn't get to see him play for the Redskins, but he is one of those guys with the "tonne of talent and half an ounce of motivation" issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,441 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I don't know how many jags fans we have here, but i hope they realise what a good QB they now have in nick foles. It's an immediate upgrade in everyway possible to Blake bortles( and I'm not having a go at bortles) and so the other parts of the team that fell off last year should come back up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I don't know how many jags fans we have here, but i hope they realise what a good QB they now have in nick foles. It's an immediate upgrade in everyway possible to Blake bortles( and I'm not having a go at bortles) and so the other parts of the team that fell off last year should come back up.
    As a Jags fan feel free to have a go at Bortles! Though I would guess Bortles is faster with his legs so maybe not every way. I am excited to see Foles line up for us. Let us see how it goes anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭billr67


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Calling what Ben has done and been accused of ‘his fair share of controversy’ is exactly what I’m talking about when I say brushing things under the carpet.

    I think Ben is horrible excuse for a human, I think the organization treated Bell horribly by tagging him a second time, I think the organization/players/fans treated Bell during his hold out was uncalled for, I think the leniency they give Ben and the rest of the players is unwise, but other than that I quite like the Steelers.

    Nice to see you’ve gone down the route of some Patriots fans on here, that questioning players or decisions equates to not liking a team.

    :) I look forward to more debates about our beloved Steelers then! weirdly I didn't know you were a 49'ers fan (I should have checked further back I guess) with the way you 'like' the Steelers I honestly had you pegged as a Patriots fan, I can clearly see I was wrong. Weird to see an NFC guy so invested in AFC teams!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    billr67 wrote: »
    :) I look forward to more debates about our beloved Steelers then! weirdly I didn't know you were a 49'ers fan (I should have checked further back I guess) with the way you 'like' the Steelers I honestly had you pegged as a Patriots fan, I can clearly see I was wrong. Weird to see an NFC guy so invested in AFC teams!

    Didn’t know I was only allowed to have opinions on my own team and apparently teams in their conference :confused:

    If you want to check out my thoughts on the 49ers offseason moves take a look at their thread. Unlike some teams, for now it looks like we’ve gotten past our recent drama filled off seasons, where we lose our best players, so there’s not too much interest in discussing their moves in this thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭billr67


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Didn’t know I was only allowed to have opinions on my own team and apparently teams in their conference :confused:

    If you want to check out my thoughts on the 49ers offseason moves take a look at their thread. Unlike some teams, for now it looks like we’ve gotten past our recent drama filled off seasons, where we lose our best players, so there’s not too much interest in discussing their moves in this thread.

    Flippin hell you're so sensitive :rolleyes: I didn't say you couldn't have opinions about anything but yours are so spittle flecked it's like your shouting them at the screen. Particularly about the Steelers who you'd rarely face anyway that's all I meant.

    Weirdly enough the whole middle 80's Joe Montana Jerry Rice Steve Young era was when I started watching NFL on Channel 4 they were a heck of a team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Hunt gone for 8 games next year. Presume that means they keep Duke for cover. As much as I don’t feel he should be back on the field, it could be huge for the Browns having him coming in fresh halfway through the year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Foxtrol wrote:
    Hunt gone for 8 games next year. Presume that means they keep Duke for cover. As much as I don’t feel he should be back on the field, it could be huge for the Browns having him coming in fresh halfway through the year.


    8 games is a joke


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,183 ✭✭✭letowski


    Tannehill to the Titans. Strange one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,802 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    letowski wrote: »
    Tannehill to the Titans. Strange one.

    Mariota is injury prone so it makes sense to have a decent backup, but he was getting cut anyway, so no idea why Titans gave up picks. Good deal for Dolphins though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Hunt gone for 8 games next year. Presume that means they keep Duke for cover. As much as I don’t feel he should be back on the field, it could be huge for the Browns having him coming in fresh halfway through the year.

    Can it be appealed and reduced? Not that he doesn’t deserve every minute


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,170 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Can it be appealed and reduced? Not that he doesn’t deserve every minute

    I'm sure all the normal avenues of appeal are open to him, even threatening to take it all the way to the US Supreme Court :rolleyes:

    His best bet and what I suspect the Browns will advise is that he accepts it and keeps his head down. With all the FA stuff going on this story will go away pretty quickly and be somewhat forgotten. If he drags it out it'll be headline news during the quiet news season


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    The statement he released today gives the impression that he won’t be appealing


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭The Good Ole Boys


    He did nothing wrong. Just pushed someone who was getting in his face. He is a good man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Can it be appealed and reduced? Not that he doesn’t deserve every minute

    https://es.pn/2T9u9MK

    Not appealing it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,674 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Mariota is injury prone so it makes sense to have a decent backup, but he was getting cut anyway, so no idea why Titans gave up picks. Good deal for Dolphins though.

    Guarantee to get hi.m.

    Titans up a 4th next year and a 7th this year and get a 6th this year.

    Also his guaranteed salary is 7m and the Fins are paying 5m of that.

    He will see game time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    When you take into account that Hunt was on the Commissioner's list since midway through last season, it's actually more of a 1 year ban, which is probably about fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Tyreek Hill in a bit of trouble now too.

    https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1106668810055155713


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    Jesus rumours are it was his three year old son. That's him finished if they're right.

    Hopefully, they're not true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Masked Man wrote: »
    Jesus rumours are it was his three year old son. That's him finished if they're right.

    Hopefully, they're not true.

    Yeah, they're saying he broke his son's arm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    There were serious question marks over this guy before he came in to the league he pleaded guilty to domestic violence on his kids mother while she was pregnant during his time in college. He must be a complete headcase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    He already beat his gf while she was pregnant with the same child who now has a broken arm. He managed to get that expunged but it doesn't change the fact that he's a scumbag. If this turns out to be true, his career should be over. It was always a big risk from the Chiefs taking a chance on someone like him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    He already beat his gf while she was pregnant with the same child who now has a broken arm. He managed to get that expunged but it doesn't change the fact that he's a scumbag. If this turns out to be true, his career should be over. It was always a big risk from the Chiefs taking a chance on someone like him.

    Fifth round pick iirc so he was worth the risk purely from a football perspective, he is one of the best players in the NFL. Dorsey doesn’t seem to mind taking a chance on guys with a chequered past

    I totally agree with you though, if this is true surely no team would risk touching him again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    First Hunt, now Hill

    Witchhunt against my Chiefs

    Innocent until proven guilty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,091 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well I've always like the Steelers as an organisation. There has always appeared to be a sense of loyalty there.
    Obviously as a Patriots fan there are players there I never liked but at the same time respected as great players.
    There'd be a few of them ony all time team. Ed Reed is one of my favourite players of all time.
    I think Bell let himself down badly but it doesn't seem so bad now after what Brown did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    First Hunt, now Hill

    Witchhunt against my Chiefs

    Innocent until proven guilty

    It's not a witch hunt. If people got reported it's a check with evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    First Hunt, now Hill

    Witchhunt against my Chiefs

    Innocent until proven guilty

    It's not a witch hunt. If people got reported it's a check with evidence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭me89


    First Hunt, now Hill

    Witchhunt against my Chiefs

    Innocent until proven guilty

    It's hardly a witch-hunt, just two scumbags that were on the same team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Broncos sign ex-Bear, Bryce Callahan CB, 3 yrs - $21milliom with $10million guaranteed.

    Probably the best slot DB in the NFL - that's the Denver secondary sorted. An ILB and a NT and the defence is set for the season - watch the damage it will do with Fangio at the helm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    me89 wrote: »
    It's hardly a witch-hunt, just two scumbags that were on the same team.

    Says the Patriots fan. F**king hell :D

    Remember when the Patriots drafted and kept a murderer in their organisation for multiple seasons and then their owner got busted for rub n tugs at an Asian massage parlour and human trafficking involvement? Good times and definitely not scumbags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    It's not a witch hunt. If people got reported it's a check with evidence.

    The kid is fine


    He was on Twitch last night playing video games, nowt wrong with his arms. This ones on the mum I think. Tyreek not on the police report - the fiance is



    I believe in you Cheetah

    D1u8VhJX4AI1ERf.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Bethel to the Ravens.

    An excellent special teams addition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    Paully D wrote: »
    Bethel to the Ravens.

    An excellent special teams addition.


    Bigtime.

    That's a great pickup


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