The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Foxtrol

https://twitter.com/GrindingTheTape/status/1069289692443697152

jack presley

That was cringeworthy. Along the same lines as to the text in the tweet, whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be fired. “I’ve had women who are friends”. That’s serious facepalm stuff.

I know it’s only a portion of the video but I wonder did he apologize at any point?

Edit - it appears in the full video that he did apologize. So there’s that at least.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

jack presley wrote: »

I have an issue with the two bold statements above. if you're not allowed get away with what she's said, is there a scale of punishments due for different levels of verbal abuse then? A few slaps for mild abuse, going up in scale to a full beat down for a racial slur etc?

And secondly, drink should never be used as an excuse or as a justification.

Well the P.C. answer is no. People in that situation should walk away, especially those who hold a high-profile position. But in the real world the answer is yes. If what she allegedly said is true, and if she was standing in their faces calling them n*ggers, then absolutely they deserve a slap. Just because she is a woman she thinks she can say things like that with impunity. And especially in a situation when drink is a factor.

And no, drink doesn't excuse what was done. I never said that, nor hinted at it. It does, however, lessen the severity of it.
Let me ask you so, if that incident happened in the cold light of day, and all people were stone cold sober, would the incident be more or less severe, or would it change the severity of it?
If you think that drink shouldn't be taken as a factor in this incident you have simply never been drunk before in your life, and do not understand it's influence.

And fwiw, I fully believe that Kareem Hunt should be at least suspended for half a season. It was a disgusting, scummy act, but it should absolutely not cost him his career. He provoked by someone who was clearly a vile, racist and entitled woman in a highly charged situation.
And despite the cheap shot taken by Presley above, I do not believe the drink excuses nor justifies his actions.

OOnegative

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

If what she allegedly said is true, and if she was standing in their faces calling them n*ggers, then absolutely they deserve a slap.

Seriously they deserve a slap? Racial slurs or not, a woman does not deserve a “slap” as you say in any circumstances. Good god!!

Edit: And not for one minute am I condoning what the young lady “allegedly” said. Still doesn’t warrant a “slap” as you say.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

OOnegative wrote: »

Seriously they deserve a slap? Racial slurs or not, a woman does not deserve a “slap” as you say in any circumstances. Good god!!

Yes, absolutely. If a woman is standing in the face of a black man and repeatedly calling him a n*gger, then yes, slap that bitch. If it was a guy he would get bet to sh*t. Don't see why a woman can hid behind the fact she's a woman and do things with impunity.

jack presley

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Well the P.C. answer is no. People in that situation should walk away, especially those who hold a high-profile position. But in the real world the answer is yes. If what she allegedly said is true, and if she was standing in their faces calling them n*ggers, then absolutely they deserve a slap. Just because she is a woman she thinks she can say things like that with impunity. And especially in a situation when drink is a factor.

And no, drink doesn't excuse what was done. I never said that, nor hinted at it. It does, however, lessen the severity of it.
Let me ask you so, if that incident happened in the cold light of day, and all people were stone cold sober, would the incident be more or less severe, or would it change the severity of it?
If you think that drink shouldn't be taken as a factor in this incident you have simply never been drunk before in your life, and do not understand it's influence.

And fwiw, I fully believe that Kareem Hunt should be at least suspended for half a season. It was a disgusting, scummy act, but it should absolutely not cost him his career. He provoked by someone who was clearly a vile, racist and entitled woman in a highly charged situation.
And despite the cheap shot taken by Presley above, I do not believe the drink excuses nor justifies his actions.

Having an issue with someone's post is hardly a cheap shot.

But on one hand you're saying drink doesn't excuse his actions but that it lesses the severity of the incident and that if I think drink shouldn't be taken as a factor, I don't understand its influence. That sounds like excuse making or giving it some sort of justification to me.

And you say that it was a scummy act and he deserves a suspension but also that in the real world she deserved a slap. So why do you want him suspended for half the season then? Is it only people who have personal conduct policies with their jobs who are not allowed slap people?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

I'm going to respond to each point individually here.

jack presley wrote: »

Having an issue with someone's post is hardly a cheap shot.

It wasn't a case of having an issue with my post, it was completely misrepresenting it. I never alluded to 'excusing his actions', not once. You put those words in my mouth to take a cheap shot, and you did it again.

jack presley wrote: »

But on one hand you're saying drink doesn't excuse his actions but that it lesses the severity of the incident and that if I think drink shouldn't be taken as a factor, I don't understand its influence. That sounds like excuse making or giving it some sort of justification to me.

Absolutely not. I don't think you understand that excusing or justifying it is absolutely not the same as lessening its severity. What he did should not be excused or justified, but some factors should be taken into account, mainly him being provoked and likely drunk/high.

jack presley wrote: »

And you say that it was a scummy act and he deserves a suspension but also that in the real world she deserved a slap. So why do you want him suspended for half the season then? Is it only people who have personal conduct policies with their jobs who are not allowed slap people?

Ahhhh jesus christ man. The man flaked the young one with a kick while she was on the ground ffs. For that, he deserves all that's coming to him. But IMO, it would be harsh for him to lose his career for it considering the circumstances.

If he does lose his career for it, I will not shed a tear for him. I'm just saying that I don't think he should. That's really all I am trying to say here.

adrian522

Locking this for the moment.

adrian522

Mod Warning: I'm reopening this thread but please be careful with your posts. Regardless of your personal opinions I don't want to read posts about how a woman deserves to be hit or about how being drunk is some sort of excuse. For the remainder of this discussion I only want to see posts about how this relates to football and associated on-field impacts.

Foxtrol

So do we think any team takes the reputational and PR damage of picking Hunt up today?

If Chubb wasn't doing so well I'd suspect the Browns might go for him given how Dorsey drafted him and how he has no qualms about player off the field issues.

Hazys

I don't think we find out who claims him until 4pm on Tuesday.

The ending of the Steelers Chargers game was crazy. The Steelers went offsides 3 times in a row trying to block the game winning FG and the 3rd time they went offsides, they were so offside that the Steelers player was able to jump past the kicker and the Chargers kicked the ball behind him for the win!

boccy23

Hazys wrote: »

I don't think we find out who claims him until 4pm on Tuesday.

The ending of the Steelers Chargers game was crazy. The Steelers went offsides 3 times in a row trying to block the game winning FG and the 3rd time they went offsides, they were so offside that the Steelers player was able to jump past the kicker and the Chargers kicked the ball behind him for the win!

Surprised more teams don't do that. Zero downside really and could time it perfect and block the effort.

Hazys

boccy23 wrote: »

Surprised more teams don't do that. Zero downside really and could time it perfect and block the effort.

True but every time you mess up the timing, the kick gets closer and easier so there is a drawback and also if the kicker misses naturally, then you give him a second chance.

Although the Chargers kicker missed the first attempt but i think that had as much to do with several Steelers being very far offsides throwing off the kick.

boccy23

Hazys wrote: »

True but every time you mess up the timing, the kick gets closer and easier so there is a drawback and also if the kicker misses naturally, then you give him a second chance.

Although the Chargers kicker missed the first attempt but i think that had as much to do with several Steelers being very far offsides throwing off the kick.

All true. Think it makes more sense than "icing the kicker". Hate that BS.

Foxtrol

Hazys wrote: »

I don't think we find out who claims him until 4pm on Tuesday.

Think it is 4pm today, as he was released on Friday.

eagle eye

Itssoeasy wrote:

I mean how is this different to Ray Rice ? He was only ****canned by the NFL after the video emerged. Whether it's the right thing to do or not, kareem hunt should be given the Ray Rice treatment as that was the standard set by the NFL back then.

This is totally different, it's not even close to being the same. Kareem Hunt didn't do anything too serious.
The biggest shame in all if this is that Kareem Hunt has been cut, and rightly so, but the hypocrisy is so obvious as they drafted a man who punched and choked his pregnant girlfriend.
So what we've learned from this is that everything is ok as long as it's not on video.

mikemac2

I remember when RGIII was called a diva but you would never know it now

He’s been the model backup in Baltimore, couldn’t ask for anymore. Preparing for each game and helping the rookie. Had a very good preseason and did a solid job on an 8 minute drive yesterday

In locker room interviews he even discusses his faith though a lot of players are religious so that isn’t unique. I don’t know why reporters bring that up after a game but sure their readers must want it. Must be an American thing

Is a FA next year and I think he’ll have a long career

Realt Dearg Sec

mikemac2 wrote: »

I remember when RGIII was called a diva but you would never know it now

He’s been the model backup in Baltimore, couldn’t ask for anymore. Preparing for each game and helping the rookie. Had a very good preseason and did a solid job on an 8 minute drive yesterday

In locker room interviews he even discusses his faith though a lot of players are religious so that isn’t unique. I don’t know why reporters bring that up after a game but sure their readers must want it. Must be an American thing

Is a FA next year and I think he’ll have a long career

I'm glad to hear that, he was such an exciting player coming into the league that first year, I loved to watch him play, glad he found a place for himself even if he will never be THAT guy.

Shedite27

boccy23 wrote: »

Surprised more teams don't do that. Zero downside really and could time it perfect and block the effort.

They missed the first kick, if they hadn't been offside they'd have gone to overtime. That's the downside

eagle eye

I just posted this in the Packers thread but maybe here would be better.



McCarthy got the boot and I started thinking about things. Imo he got a great innings in Green Bay and for a while I thought he was really good. Then I started to wonder if the brilliance of Aaron Rodgers was making him look better than he actually was. So Rodgers hasn't had a great year and now McCarthy is gone.

What I'm wondering is if Aaron Rodgers is on the slide? He definitely hasn't look the same player this season as in past years. I thought he look a bit like he just doesn't care at times but maybe it could be that age has caught up with him a bit quicker than it has with other great QBs.

cosatron

eagle eye wrote: »

I just posted this in the Packers thread but maybe here would be better.



McCarthy got the boot and I started thinking about things. Imo he got a great innings in Green Bay and for a while I thought he was really good. Then I started to wonder if the brilliance of Aaron Rodgers was making him look better than he actually was. So Rodgers hasn't had a great year and now McCarthy is gone.

What I'm wondering is if Aaron Rodgers is on the slide? He definitely hasn't look the same player this season as in past years. I thought he look a bit like he just doesn't care at times but maybe it could be that age has caught up with him a bit quicker than it has with other great QBs.

His having q down year no doubt. But he has 3500 yards, 21 td and 1 int. The scheme this year was horrific, first down was a pass, 2nd down was a run and third down was a pass, rinse and repeat. I think a new voice and scheme might get the juices going again cause he did make some nice throws this year and was very good against the rams which as it transpires was a major turning point for the worse.

dfx-

Hazys wrote: »

I don't think we find out who claims him until 4pm on Tuesday.

The ending of the Steelers Chargers game was crazy. The Steelers went offsides 3 times in a row trying to block the game winning FG and the 3rd time they went offsides, they were so offside that the Steelers player was able to jump past the kicker and the Chargers kicked the ball behind him for the win!

it would've been nice for them to pay that close attention to the line on the Chargers first TD and a blatant false start. It make no sense for it to be unreviewable too.

Referee got sacked when the Chargers scored against the Browns the same way last time.

raze_them_all_

eagle eye wrote: »

I just posted this in the Packers thread but maybe here would be better.



McCarthy got the boot and I started thinking about things. Imo he got a great innings in Green Bay and for a while I thought he was really good. Then I started to wonder if the brilliance of Aaron Rodgers was making him look better than he actually was. So Rodgers hasn't had a great year and now McCarthy is gone.

What I'm wondering is if Aaron Rodgers is on the slide? He definitely hasn't look the same player this season as in past years. I thought he look a bit like he just doesn't care at times but maybe it could be that age has caught up with him a bit quicker than it has with other great QBs.

I honestly believe its part to do with coaching and partly what's around him. Cobb is gone this year, Jimmy Graham is a bust in gb, so that leaves him with realistically one targer he can throw to. The team around him are average at best and I know If I was sitting there today after a player dropped the easiest pick of his career to lose us the season I'd be wondering what the **** happened

j8wk2feszrnpao

Brandon Browner says hello to jail for 8 years. Reading up on his recent “activities”, I hope he sees every bit of that time. Wouldn’t be any harm if he managed to tack on another few years while he’s in there.

Jolly Red Giant

After winning three games on the bounce disaster has struck the Broncos.

Chris Harris Jr was likely lost for the rest of the season with a broken fibula.

Today it was reported that Emmanuel Sanders has be placed on IR with a torn Achilles (a potentially career-ending injury for a 31 year old WR).

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

AFC

1. KC
2. NE
3. HOU
4. PIT
5. LAC
6. IND

NFC

1. NO
2. LAR
3. CHI
4. DAL
5. SEA
6. CAR

Updated:

AFC

1. KC
2. NE
3. HOU
4. PIT
5. LAC
6. TEN

NFC

1. LAR
2. NO
3. CHI
4. DAL
5. SEA
6. MIN

BonnieSituation

Has anyone has any issue opening the NFL app at all this week?

Hasn't worked for me since Sunday evening. Have downloaded and deleted a couple of times.

Fierce annoying.

madalig12

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Has anyone has any issue opening the NFL app at all this week?

Hasn't worked for me since Sunday evening. Have downloaded and deleted a couple of times.

Fierce annoying.

No but ive an issue with having Green and Hunt on my fantasy team😣

adrian522

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1070710664925204482?s=19

helimachoptor

always a risk with those big open tissue ops sadly