General sheep thread

Buford T. Justice XIX · 25-01-2019 02:10PM

kk.man wrote: »

Imagine those tags on small lambs ...surely a cruelty issue.

They seem to manage alright?
https://twitter.com/IrelandsFarmers/status/1088462342948569088

wrangler · 25-01-2019 02:38PM

kk.man wrote: »

Wrangler are they linked to the Dept data base? ...How do they know the tag numbers given that they are a uk company?

Yes, They're linked to the Dept, I can't believe they're gone up in price so much.
We were talking to the owner last year and he said the chip was as cheap as they were going to be so unlikely that they'll get any cheaper when compulsory for all sheep....... he has since sold out to a company called Datamar, they must have paid too much for the business.
The tagger loading itself and holding 20 tags was the main reason we used them

orm0nd · 25-01-2019 04:07PM

wrangler wrote: »

Yes, They're linked to the Dept, I can't believe they're gone up in price so much.
We were talking to the owner last year and he said the chip was as cheap as they were going to be so unlikely that they'll get any cheaper when compulsory for all sheep....... he has since sold out to a company called Datamar, they must have paid too much for the business.
The tagger loading itself and holding 20 tags was the main reason we used them

are the tags for that tagger 1.50 per set ?
https://www.easytag.online/products/35

BTW the irish shearwell website seems to be down

wrangler · 25-01-2019 10:07PM

orm0nd wrote: »

are the tags for that tagger 1.50 per set ?
https://www.easytag.online/products/35

BTW the irish shearwell website seems to be down

They won't sell much at that, they were much the same as all the others last year

Lambman · 26-01-2019 10:44AM

Any pictures off pipe drinkers for sheep looking ideas for a small shed I'll be using till house a few sheep.

DJ98 · 26-01-2019 12:28PM

For the sheep census are Suffolk X cheviot ewes consider as mountain crosses or lowland crosses?

ganmo · 26-01-2019 01:08PM

DJ98 wrote: »

For the sheep census are Suffolk X cheviot ewes consider as mountain crosses or lowland crosses?

I'd put them down as Mountain crosses

Green farmer · 26-01-2019 04:00PM

When’s the deadline ?

Dinzee Conlee · 26-01-2019 05:23PM

Green farmer wrote: »

When’s the deadline ?

End of this month **I think...**

DJ98 · 26-01-2019 05:51PM

How many ewes or factory lambs would an 8x5 trailer with decks carry?

Green farmer · 26-01-2019 05:51PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

End of this month **I think...**

That’s what I’m thinking as well, 31st. Just don’t want to be caught on the hop.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 26-01-2019 06:35PM

Green farmer wrote: »

That’s what I’m thinking as well, 31st. Just don’t want to be caught on the hop.

You'd want to have it in the post on the 29th to make sure it gets there by the 31st.

There's an extra two weeks if you supply the data online, though.

charolais0153 · 26-01-2019 06:45PM

DJ98 wrote: »

How many ewes or factory lambs would an 8x5 trailer with decks carry?

25 lambs 15 ewes

orm0nd · 26-01-2019 11:40PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

25 lambs 15 ewes

I used to bring 34 springs {38 to 42 kg}

charolais0153 · 27-01-2019 12:36AM

orm0nd wrote: »

I used to bring 34 springs {38 to 42 kg}

Probably would. I was just thinking of hoggetts at this time with wool etc. Theyd be up on 50 kgs.

Green farmer · 27-01-2019 09:06AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Probably would. I was just thinking of hoggetts at this time with wool etc. Theyd be up on 50 kgs.

Used to have decks before and found problem was knowing when each level was full and pushing up the sheep to make more space. I don’t have decks anymore but find I’d take 15-16 butchers of the type I run now without issue. Some trailers might only be 8x4.5 or shy of 8x5, so that would reflect as well. Met a lad at the mart who had a ifor p8x4 and he had 13 butchers in that. Wouldn’t have believed it other then the fact that I saw them in it.

arctictree · 27-01-2019 09:24AM

Green farmer wrote: »

Used to have decks before and found problem was knowing when each level was full and pushing up the sheep to make more space. I don’t have decks anymore but find I’d take 15-16 butchers of the type I run now without issue. Some trailers might only be 8x4.5 or shy of 8x5, so that would reflect as well. Met a lad at the mart who had a ifor p8x4 and he had 13 butchers in that. Wouldn’t have believed it other then the fact that I saw them in it.

13 butchers is pushing it for an 8x4. In mine, 12 would be max.

Green farmer · 27-01-2019 10:51AM

arctictree wrote: »

13 butchers is pushing it for an 8x4. In mine, 12 would be max.

Maybe they were 45kg butchers, I don’t know, but I was standing there at the side of the trailer, talking to him and looking at them in it. Well fleshed Suffolk x lambs. Couldn’t believe it myself.

ganmo · 27-01-2019 01:22PM

Any ideas what would be killing ewes this time of year? 4 young ewes died over the last few days
We're thinking worms.

wrangler · 27-01-2019 01:28PM

ganmo wrote: »

Any ideas what would be killing ewes this time of year? 4 young ewes died over the last few days
We're thinking worms.

Hope you have them gone for Post Mortem, be interesting to know,
Could be fluke, worms, clostridial.......anything

Green farmer · 27-01-2019 02:26PM

wrangler wrote: »

Hope you have them gone for Post Mortem, be interesting to know,
Could be fluke, worms, clostridial.......anything

Most likely one those alright. Changeable weather would open the door for clostridial.

razor8 · 27-01-2019 03:27PM

ganmo wrote: »

Any ideas what would be killing ewes this time of year? 4 young ewes died over the last few days
We're thinking worms.

I hope your last fluke dose didn’t contain
triclabendazole?

What did you use?

Common things are common as my vet says

ganmo · 27-01-2019 05:24PM

razor8 wrote: »

I hope your last fluke dose didn’t contain
triclabendazole?

What did you use?

Common things are common as my vet says

Wouldn't be flukey ground so fluke doses aren't normal
If there's a vet in backweston they'll be going in the morning
Injected them with closmectim so we'll see what happens

razor8 · 27-01-2019 06:06PM

ganmo wrote: »

Wouldn't be flukey ground so fluke doses aren't normal
If there's a vet in backweston they'll be going in the morning
Injected them with closmectim so we'll see what happens

Did you dose before or after other died?

Green farmer · 27-01-2019 06:51PM

Any government regional vet labs nearby Ganmo ? Only cost you €5 plus vet fee to get the full job done on them.

ganmo · 27-01-2019 07:42PM

razor8 wrote: »

Did you dose before or after other died?

Did them today

The national lab at backweston isn't too far away but the last time I checked they had no vet to do pms

wrangler · 27-01-2019 07:56PM

ganmo wrote: »

Did them today

The national lab at backweston isn't too far away but the last time I checked they had no vet to do pms

No vet, like WTF..... Public (dis)service again
Athlone is probably only a little over an hour from Backweston , after losing four it'd be important that you find out, there could be any number susceptible

foxirl · 27-01-2019 08:45PM

razor8 wrote: »

I hope your last fluke dose didn’t contain
triclabendazole?

Out of curiosity why not. Is there a reason not to use it. Thanks

ganmo · 27-01-2019 08:55PM

wrangler wrote: »

No vet, like WTF..... Public (dis)service again
Athlone is probably only a little over an hour from Backweston , after losing four it'd be important that you find out, there could be any number susceptible

Ya it was about 8 months ago that I checked and at that stage the post was vacant for 8 months.
It seems fairly foolish to pass backweston on the n4 to head to Athlone.

wrangler · 27-01-2019 09:06PM

ganmo wrote: »

Ya it was about 8 months ago that I checked and at that stage the post was vacant for 8 months.
It seems fairly foolish to pass backweston on the n4 to head to Athlone.

Of course if they're doing PMs there it would be foolish, but to have a vet lab not doing PMs is fairly foolish as well.
.Your own vet, if he was any good, should be able to do the PM and you take the tissue/organ samples into backweston yourself.

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