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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kk.man wrote: »
    Imagine those tags on small lambs ...surely a cruelty issue.
    They seem to manage alright?
    https://twitter.com/IrelandsFarmers/status/1088462342948569088


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,111 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kk.man wrote: »
    Wrangler are they linked to the Dept data base? ...How do they know the tag numbers given that they are a uk company?

    Yes, They're linked to the Dept, I can't believe they're gone up in price so much.
    We were talking to the owner last year and he said the chip was as cheap as they were going to be so unlikely that they'll get any cheaper when compulsory for all sheep....... he has since sold out to a company called Datamar, they must have paid too much for the business.
    The tagger loading itself and holding 20 tags was the main reason we used them


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    wrangler wrote: »
    Yes, They're linked to the Dept, I can't believe they're gone up in price so much.
    We were talking to the owner last year and he said the chip was as cheap as they were going to be so unlikely that they'll get any cheaper when compulsory for all sheep....... he has since sold out to a company called Datamar, they must have paid too much for the business.
    The tagger loading itself and holding 20 tags was the main reason we used them


    are the tags for that tagger 1.50 per set ?
    https://www.easytag.online/products/35


    BTW the irish shearwell website seems to be down


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,111 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    orm0nd wrote: »
    are the tags for that tagger 1.50 per set ?
    https://www.easytag.online/products/35


    BTW the irish shearwell website seems to be down

    They won't sell much at that, they were much the same as all the others last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Any pictures off pipe drinkers for sheep looking ideas for a small shed I'll be using till house a few sheep.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭DJ98


    For the sheep census are Suffolk X cheviot ewes consider as mountain crosses or lowland crosses?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    DJ98 wrote: »
    For the sheep census are Suffolk X cheviot ewes consider as mountain crosses or lowland crosses?

    I'd put them down as Mountain crosses


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    When’s the deadline ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    When’s the deadline ?

    End of this month **I think...**


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭DJ98


    How many ewes or factory lambs would an 8x5 trailer with decks carry?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    End of this month **I think...**

    That’s what I’m thinking as well, 31st. Just don’t want to be caught on the hop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    That’s what I’m thinking as well, 31st. Just don’t want to be caught on the hop.
    You'd want to have it in the post on the 29th to make sure it gets there by the 31st.


    There's an extra two weeks if you supply the data online, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    DJ98 wrote: »
    How many ewes or factory lambs would an 8x5 trailer with decks carry?

    25 lambs 15 ewes


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    25 lambs 15 ewes

    I used to bring 34 springs {38 to 42 kg}


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    orm0nd wrote: »
    I used to bring 34 springs {38 to 42 kg}

    Probably would. I was just thinking of hoggetts at this time with wool etc. Theyd be up on 50 kgs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Probably would. I was just thinking of hoggetts at this time with wool etc. Theyd be up on 50 kgs.

    Used to have decks before and found problem was knowing when each level was full and pushing up the sheep to make more space. I don’t have decks anymore but find I’d take 15-16 butchers of the type I run now without issue. Some trailers might only be 8x4.5 or shy of 8x5, so that would reflect as well. Met a lad at the mart who had a ifor p8x4 and he had 13 butchers in that. Wouldn’t have believed it other then the fact that I saw them in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Used to have decks before and found problem was knowing when each level was full and pushing up the sheep to make more space. I don’t have decks anymore but find I’d take 15-16 butchers of the type I run now without issue. Some trailers might only be 8x4.5 or shy of 8x5, so that would reflect as well. Met a lad at the mart who had a ifor p8x4 and he had 13 butchers in that. Wouldn’t have believed it other then the fact that I saw them in it.

    13 butchers is pushing it for an 8x4. In mine, 12 would be max.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    arctictree wrote: »
    13 butchers is pushing it for an 8x4. In mine, 12 would be max.

    Maybe they were 45kg butchers, I don’t know, but I was standing there at the side of the trailer, talking to him and looking at them in it. Well fleshed Suffolk x lambs. Couldn’t believe it myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Any ideas what would be killing ewes this time of year? 4 young ewes died over the last few days
    We're thinking worms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,111 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    ganmo wrote: »
    Any ideas what would be killing ewes this time of year? 4 young ewes died over the last few days
    We're thinking worms.

    Hope you have them gone for Post Mortem, be interesting to know,
    Could be fluke, worms, clostridial.......anything


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    wrangler wrote: »
    Hope you have them gone for Post Mortem, be interesting to know,
    Could be fluke, worms, clostridial.......anything

    Most likely one those alright. Changeable weather would open the door for clostridial.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭razor8


    ganmo wrote: »
    Any ideas what would be killing ewes this time of year? 4 young ewes died over the last few days
    We're thinking worms.

    I hope your last fluke dose didn’t contain
    triclabendazole?

    What did you use?

    Common things are common as my vet says


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    razor8 wrote: »
    I hope your last fluke dose didn’t contain
    triclabendazole?

    What did you use?

    Common things are common as my vet says

    Wouldn't be flukey ground so fluke doses aren't normal
    If there's a vet in backweston they'll be going in the morning
    Injected them with closmectim so we'll see what happens


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭razor8


    ganmo wrote: »
    Wouldn't be flukey ground so fluke doses aren't normal
    If there's a vet in backweston they'll be going in the morning
    Injected them with closmectim so we'll see what happens

    Did you dose before or after other died?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Any government regional vet labs nearby Ganmo ? Only cost you €5 plus vet fee to get the full job done on them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    razor8 wrote: »
    Did you dose before or after other died?

    Did them today

    The national lab at backweston isn't too far away but the last time I checked they had no vet to do pms


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,111 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    ganmo wrote: »
    Did them today

    The national lab at backweston isn't too far away but the last time I checked they had no vet to do pms


    No vet, like WTF..... Public (dis)service again
    Athlone is probably only a little over an hour from Backweston , after losing four it'd be important that you find out, there could be any number susceptible


  • Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭foxirl


    razor8 wrote: »
    I hope your last fluke dose didn’t contain
    triclabendazole?

    Out of curiosity why not. Is there a reason not to use it. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    wrangler wrote: »
    No vet, like WTF..... Public (dis)service again
    Athlone is probably only a little over an hour from Backweston , after losing four it'd be important that you find out, there could be any number susceptible

    Ya it was about 8 months ago that I checked and at that stage the post was vacant for 8 months.
    It seems fairly foolish to pass backweston on the n4 to head to Athlone.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,111 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    ganmo wrote: »
    Ya it was about 8 months ago that I checked and at that stage the post was vacant for 8 months.
    It seems fairly foolish to pass backweston on the n4 to head to Athlone.

    Of course if they're doing PMs there it would be foolish, but to have a vet lab not doing PMs is fairly foolish as well.
    .Your own vet, if he was any good, should be able to do the PM and you take the tissue/organ samples into backweston yourself.


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