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General sheep thread

  • 29-12-2016 4:07pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Just a thread for miscellaneous questions that don't deserve their own thread iykwim .

    Does anyone know what this is? Took this picture a few months ago and she healed after a while through injections and formalin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Just a thread for miscellaneous questions that don't deserve their own thread iykwim .

    Does anyone know what this is? Took this picture a few months ago and she healed after a while through injections and formalin

    I don't, but I have seen it enough. I have bought in Suffolk cross lambs now, and a few of em have something like it... :(

    In ewes, I used to cull for it. Cos the ones that had it, seemed to have bad feet overall...

    Maybe not what you wanted to hear Charolais :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    how many sheep and cattle would u need to become a full time farmer i dont want to but i was just wondering


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    how many sheep and cattle would u need to become a full time farmer i dont want to but i was just wondering

    Not sure that's a question that can be answered, it depends on so many variables...

    If its an academic exercise, better off working out how much money you want / need to get from full time farming, then using Teasgasc profit monitor numbers to see what returns you can get from sheep / beef, then you can work out numbers of animals from that (and then you can work out acres, and then factor in loan repayments, and then shake our head in disbelief and put the workings in a drawer never to be looked at again) ;):(


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    I don't, but I have seen it enough. I have bought in Suffolk cross lambs now, and a few of em have something like it... :(

    In ewes, I used to cull for it. Cos the ones that had it, seemed to have bad feet overall...

    Maybe not what you wanted to hear Charolais :(

    Only the one ewe...wanted to get out of her cos she had very little milk as a hoggett and bad feet but the father said give her another year and we'll see how's she like then.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭Dylan collins


    is land rental expensive in donegal does anyone know cause i looked up land for rent in donegal but theres only 2 fields which are a long way from me


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  • Registered Users Posts: 227 ✭✭Crow Pigeon and Pheasant


    Does anyone know what this is? Took this picture a few months ago and she healed after a while through injections and formalin

    Is it foot rot? That's what it looks like from the picture!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Is it foot rot? That's what it looks like from the picture!

    No smell


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 nagshead


    I would of said foot rot as well , I have had a few funny feet situations lately which i think could be down to using formalin too much where i have had a very lame ewe with no sign of scald , rot or Codd but i think it may have been caused by footbathing with formalin, it cleans and kills anything on the foot or between the toes and hardens up the whole foot trapping a bit of infection on the inside which then has to really get nasty and sore before it can burst out and eventually heal , thats my theory anyway , what i have found is if a sheep does not respond/get better from 2 shots of oxytet in 4 days its probably Codd.
    So your probably ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Just a thread for miscellaneous questions that don't deserve their own thread iykwim .

    Does anyone know what this is? Took this picture a few months ago and she healed after a while through injections and formalin
    Was thinking of doing a thread like this for a long time,did you pare it then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    IH784man wrote: »
    Was thinking of doing a thread like this for a long time,did you pare it then?

    No footbath and injection...we've taken teagascs advice about not paring wrighrly or wrongly


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Ewe aborted today ....can't factory her either because she got dose with 42 day withdrawal


  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Any ideas wat the Cull ewe trade is like? Scanning Tuesday and I'd like to off load the emptys as soon as possible


  • Registered Users Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Ewe aborted today ....can't factory her either because she got dose with 42 day withdrawal
    Any idea what caused her to abort


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    390kid wrote: »
    Any idea what caused her to abort

    Just one of those things... She was with a ram lamb and an empty ewe that needed nuts


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭cattle man


    Was going to clip my triplet ewes and house tomorro would 8 weeks wool be enough on them due to start lambing 1st March. ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭stantheman1979


    cattle man wrote: »
    Was going to clip my triplet ewes and house tomorro would 8 weeks wool be enough on them due to start lambing 1st March. ?

    We shear everything after scanning. So some would have only 6weeks wool on them. My theory is if youre letting out a two day old lamb with no wool then surely the ewe with 6-8 weeks wool will be ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭roosky


    If ewes with wool need 18 inchs to eat meal how much less do they need if i was to shear them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    roosky wrote: »
    If ewes with wool need 18 inchs to eat meal how much less do they need if i was to shear them

    It's not recommended to reduce feeding space, in fact the recommened space for lowland ewes (80kg +) is nearer to 20 inches.
    Not enough trough space is a recipe for trouble


  • Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Jonny303


    Need to rearrange my lambing shed after an awful first run. For Suffolks, do you think I would want the full 24 inches of feed space?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Jonny303 wrote: »
    Need to rearrange my lambing shed after an awful first run. For Suffolks, do you think I would want the full 24 inches of feed space?

    Don't know but i used to feed 10 pedigree vendeens in 16ft and they were big sheep, probably not as wide as suffolk though.

    If you look at the ewes in the tunnel at the far end, you'll see they're eating out of walkthrough troughs at right angles to the feeding passage, they're 12 ft long and i can throw the meal from the feeding passage....can you put some in to your setup

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/704803/404610.JPG


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭kk.man


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Don't know but i used to feed 10 pedigree vendeens in 16ft and they were big sheep, probably not as wide as suffolk though.

    If you look at the ewes in the tunnel at the far end, you'll see they're eating out of walkthrough troughs at right angles to the feeding passage, they're 12 ft long and i can throw the meal from the feeding passage....can you put some in to your setup

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/704803/404610.JPG

    That is a lovely set up Rangler!


  • Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭roosky


    rangler1 wrote:
    If you look at the ewes in the tunnel at the far end, you'll see they're eating out of walkthrough troughs at right angles to the feeding passage, they're 12 ft long and i can throw the meal from the feeding passage....can you put some in to your setup

    rangler1 wrote:
    Don't know but i used to feed 10 pedigree vendeens in 16ft and they were big sheep, probably not as wide as suffolk though.


    Seen that shed from the road manys a time rangler and it excites me from the outside alone........what do you do to replace the hardship of ring feeders and troughs....i would have so much free hardship with a set up like that !


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Don't know but i used to feed 10 pedigree vendeens in 16ft and they were big sheep, probably not as wide as suffolk though.

    If you look at the ewes in the tunnel at the far end, you'll see they're eating out of walkthrough troughs at right angles to the feeding passage, they're 12 ft long and i can throw the meal from the feeding passage....can you put some in to your setup

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/704803/404610.JPG
    If you had to have more housing for sheep would you build a tunnel or shed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    roosky wrote: »
    Seen that shed from the road manys a time rangler and it excites me from the outside alone........what do you do to replace the hardship of ring feeders and troughs....i would have so much free hardship with a set up like that !

    Thanks, feeding meal instead of hay or silage reduces the hardship hugely, those ewes are only getting bedded plus .5kg meal/day at the moment but they'll go up to 1kgmeal/ day in february...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    If you had to have more housing for sheep would you build a tunnel or shed

    probably a shed if i was 30 years younger, I went for the tunnel because i wanted it up in a hurry, that one was erected in a week once i had the base ready, the weather was brutal at the time and i wanted the sheep in quick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭roosky


    rangler1 wrote:
    Thanks, feeding meal instead of hay or silage reduces the hardship hugely, those ewes are only getting bedded plus .5kg meal/day at the moment but they'll go up to 1kgmeal/ day in february...

    So no silage or hay??..

    My ewes for example twins will get silage and then meal from 7 weeks out building from 200g to 700g

    How do you do it....just 500g every day housed and then build from a few weeks out ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    roosky wrote: »
    So no silage or hay??..

    My ewes for example twins will get silage and then meal from 7 weeks out building from 200g to 700g

    How do you do it....just 500g every day housed and then build from a few weeks out ?

    yea, count .5kg meal +straw as equal to silage and supplement from there, I need to be at 1.25 kgs for the last two weeks pregnancy, so they're fed 3 times a day then
    It sounds expensive compared to pit silage but not compared to average silage in round bales

    Just edited to say that they're on a high energy hogget finisher ration a the moment, 14%P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    rangler1 wrote: »
    yea, count .5kg meal +straw as equal to silage and supplement from there, I need to be at 1.25 kgs for the last two weeks pregnancy, so they're fed 3 times a day then
    It sounds expensive compared to pit silage but not compared to average silage in round bales

    Just edited to say that they're on a high energy hogget finisher ration a the moment, 14%P.

    I fed straw and ration the last 2 years I was lambing... cos twas handier more than anything...

    My facilities would not be as nice for either man nor beast as ranglers ;)

    I used to throw in a round bale of straw into the pen with the ewes and they would eat what they wanted, twould take care of feed and bedding for a few days... bales would want to be bales right tho, if not they'd fall apart too quick and you'd go through the straw too quick...

    Cos I was at work, I could only feed em twice a day. 0.5kg morn and eve.
    First year I used to feed them outside where they were penned, so I could put out the ration and then added extra soya bean on top to up the protein %

    Last year, I fed em in the pen, so twas just ration, no soya...
    Lambing went very well, but the ewes were thinner than I'd like after lambing. But I didn't want to go over 0.5kg in one feed...

    But, twas only for very small numbers...


  • Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭roosky


    Ya its very interesting .....get it hard to imagine them without silage, old habits and all that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    It's an ideal system for the likes of myself that likes an easy life, also suits someone that hasn't many ewes as using silage for a small amount of ewes isn't easy....nor is buying hay good enough for sheep,
    Also very clean near a dwelling,


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