Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

Pussyhands · 11-01-2019 09:25AM

applehunter wrote: »

Self hating bogger alert.

A lot of these ****ers around Dublin.

He speaks too fast and too loud. Not sure how he got on the radio, must be great buddies with someone.

NIMAN · 11-01-2019 09:38AM

Tuned in last night for 1st time in ages......and got Giles waffling on about Leeds in the 70s again.

Sweet Jesus, why do they persist with those conversations every week?

And I'm out again for another few months.

Tell me how · 11-01-2019 09:46AM

applehunter wrote: »

Self hating bogger alert.

A lot of these ****ers around Dublin.

Aren't you from Meath?

death1234567 · 11-01-2019 09:56AM

Brayan Chilly Shoplifter wrote: »

Would have good time for Johnny Ward, very knowledgeable and interesting. Enjoyed him on tonight.

He's the best of all the guests/presenters they get on. He's a shocking punter though, never back on of his horse 'tips', he falls for the hype every time.

BPKS · 11-01-2019 11:21AM

Brayan Chilly Shoplifter wrote: »

Would have good time for Johnny Ward, very knowledgeable and interesting. Enjoyed him on tonight.

When Burnley went a goal up on Liverpool early in the 2nd half on December 5th, Johnny went and awarded the League title to Man City. A half hour later, Liverpool had won 3-1. 3 weeks later Liverpool were 7 points ahead of Man City.

So I for one hope he isnt very knowledgeable:D

diusmr8a504cvk · 11-01-2019 11:54AM

BPKS wrote: »

When Burnley went a goal up on Liverpool early in the 2nd half on December 5th, Johnny went and awarded the League title to Man City. A half hour later, Liverpool had won 3-1. 3 weeks later Liverpool were 7 points ahead of Man City.

So I for one hope he isnt very knowledgeable:D

City will win the title.

Johnny gets a bit excited at times but in fairness his love of sport is probably half the reason for that. He's not afraid to say it how it is, which is probably what led to so much controversy over his comments on both Cork City and Dundalk (particularly Pat Hoban) last year.

diusmr8a504cvk · 13-01-2019 12:48AM

Who's worse though, Jamie Moore or Ger Gilroy?

Just to show I'm not entirely miserable, I think Joe Molloy is brilliant and enjoy Johnny Ward (as mentioned) and Eoin Sheehan.

jeremyj1968 · 13-01-2019 08:33AM

BPKS wrote: »

When Burnley went a goal up on Liverpool early in the 2nd half on December 5th, Johnny went and awarded the League title to Man City. A half hour later, Liverpool had won 3-1. 3 weeks later Liverpool were 7 points ahead of Man City.

This stuff really annoyed me as well. Like the other night with the Liverpool v City game. "Oh if Liverpool win, then the league is definitely over". Absolute nonsense. With the three points for a win system, this can change really quickly as we've seen in the past, but to try to sell the game to us they boost it's significance.

Tell me how · 13-01-2019 09:57AM

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

This stuff really annoyed me as well. Like the other night with the Liverpool v City game. "Oh if Liverpool win, then the league is definitely over". Absolute nonsense. With the three points for a win system, this can change really quickly as we've seen in the past, but to try to sell the game to us they boost it's significance.

Yeah bit to be fair, if Liverpool had won that, they'd still have been unbeaten and had a ten point lead. This would have meant an unbeaten side would have had to lose at least twice probably and draw a further 4 games out of 18 to see their advantage overcome.

That would have been very unlikely.

13-01-2019 12:28PM

Brayan Chilly Shoplifter wrote: »

Who's worse though, Jamie Moore or Ger Gilroy?

Just to show I'm not entirely miserable, I think Joe Molloy is brilliant and enjoy Johnny Ward (as mentioned) and Eoin Sheehan.

Gilroy's smugness and self satisfaction is hard to take.

With regard to Joe Molloy, he's an excellent broadcaster. Makes what he does sound very easy and smooth, which it definitely isn't. I do get a sense off him, though, that he's not really into sport in a huge way. He's not passionate about it. He can easily hold a conversation about most topics but other than golf, I get the sense he'd be as happy talking about something else.

CatFromHue · 13-01-2019 03:07PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Tuned in last night for 1st time in ages......and got Giles waffling on about Leeds in the 70s again.

Sweet Jesus, why do they persist with those conversations every week?

And I'm out again for another few months.

I quite like those conversations. I can understand why others wouldn't but equally there's an hour of football talk later in the show that would cater for a different style of discussion.

Tell me how · 13-01-2019 03:47PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

I quite like those conversations. I can understand why others wouldn't but equally there's an hour of football talk later in the show that would cater for a different style of discussion.

I enjoy Giles. Even though he mentions Leeds a lot, it's usually relevant to the conversation.

Not sure I agreed with his view Thursday night that the big clubs will be looking at Seamus Coleman now given that he had fallen out of favour at Everton for a period.

Say Your Number · 13-01-2019 03:53PM

Anytime he's on with Dunphy, Leeds barely gets mentioned, Nathan brought him down that road this week, not sure how Giles is supposed to react to it.

Aidric · 13-01-2019 08:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

With regard to Joe Molloy, he's an excellent broadcaster. Makes what he does sound very easy and smooth, which it definitely isn't. I do get a sense off him, though, that he's not really into sport in a huge way. He's not passionate about it. He can easily hold a conversation about most topics but other than golf, I get the sense he'd be as happy talking about something else.

Making it sound easy doesn't come by accident. Whether he is into a certain sport or not he never deserts his professional responsibility as a broadcaster. He is meticulously researched and as a listener that is the least you can ask for.

Dots1982 · 13-01-2019 10:05PM

Jackman a radio dead weight on the paper review. The other guy was good.

applehunter · 14-01-2019 12:30AM

Dots1982 wrote: »

Jackman a radio dead weight on the paper review. The other guy was good.

Upskilling, process, execution, Laissez-faire.

It’s like the Smurfit school of business.

14-01-2019 07:14AM

Aidric wrote: »

Making it sound easy doesn't come by accident. Whether he is into a certain sport or not he never deserts his professional responsibility as a broadcaster. He is meticulously researched and as a listener that is the least you can ask for.

I don't disagree with you one bit. In fact, if you think of a lot of the good or great broadcasters, they are the same.

gluppers · 14-01-2019 12:38PM

Any idea why Richie disappeared off Twitter?

He use to be a quality tweeter

Tell me how · 14-01-2019 12:43PM

gluppers wrote: »

Any idea why Richie disappeared off Twitter?

He use to be a quality tweeter

Think it was around the time of the furore/mirth over the Irish fans laughing at/with the ladies exiting the Ann Summers shop and how they were embarrassed/entertained.

I could be wrong but I think the events were linked. Don't know why he picked that fight.

I wonder what would his dream job be? Would it be a regular host on OTB or hosting the Tom Dunne show. He seems quite good at that and much more interested than he does on sport.

Cockford Ollie · 14-01-2019 07:27PM

Joe has a hard on expressing his outrage over the Zebo incident. Nice social justice topic for the show to latch onto and fill the minutes.

14-01-2019 07:42PM

Cockford Ollie wrote: »

Joe has a hard on expressing his outrage over the Zebo incident. Nice social justice topic for the show to latch onto and fill the minutes.

Trying to to dismiss it as a "nice social justice topic" says a lot more about you than it does Joe Molloy. There was nothing wrong with the way the story was handled.

Faugheen · 14-01-2019 08:21PM

Cockford Ollie wrote: »

Joe has a hard on expressing his outrage over the Zebo incident. Nice social justice topic for the show to latch onto and fill the minutes.

So you have a problem with a presenters of a sports show discussing a potential incident whereby an Irish international rugby player was allegedly racially abused?

People love having a go for the sake of having a go, don’t they?

jeremyj1968 · 15-01-2019 05:41AM

Ahwell wrote: »

Trying to to dismiss it as a "nice social justice topic" says a lot more about you than it does Joe Molloy. There was nothing wrong with the way the story was handled.

I see what the poster is saying though. The chance to virtue signal always seem to take priority over the actual sport. The have a tendency to go looking for social justice causes, and then the presenters comment one by one, each one being more offended than the next. Then it becomes a morality competition between them.

jeremyj1968 · 15-01-2019 05:55AM

Just finished watching Sunderland Til I Die last night, on the recommendation of the OTB guys. Thought it was amazing. Beautifully shot and captivating. I always wonder about how wise it is to let cameras in to the dressing room though. What the f**k was Gibson thinking though. They had just won 4-0 and spirits were high, and he goes drink driving and takes out a load of cars - the club lets him go, and they lose the next few games.

Was pretty shocked by the fans though. I know that they may have been playing it up for the cameras, but what a bunch of animals. The levels of abuse the players had to take was just ridiculous. I guess Gilroy would call them the "BREXIT down the stadium of light" gang.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 15-01-2019 03:04PM

Yeah it's very well done.
Miserable oul kip though isn't it.

I'm beginning to understand why everyone in the rest of England hates the north.

A bit like us and our own country.

ghostdancer · 15-01-2019 03:24PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Think it was around the time of the furore/mirth over the Irish fans laughing at/with the ladies exiting the Ann Summers shop and how they were embarrassed/entertained.

I could be wrong but I think the events were linked. Don't know why he picked that fight.

I wonder what would his dream job be? Would it be a regular host on OTB or hosting the Tom Dunne show. He seems quite good at that and much more interested than he does on sport.

probably a mix of the two, like what he used to do on Phantom with Richie Ryan at the weekends, presenting sports updates while playing good music.

BPKS · 15-01-2019 03:34PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yeah it's very well done.
Miserable oul kip though isn't it.

I'm beginning to understand why everyone in the rest of England hates the north.

A bit like us and our own country.

You mean everybody in London, Berkshire, Sussex, Essex etc. hate the north.

On another note, I assume Joe will be a big fan of the Gillette ad

Christy Browne · 15-01-2019 03:40PM

BPKS wrote: »

On another note, I assume Joe will be a big fan of the Gillette ad

Hardly relevant?

15-01-2019 04:42PM

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

I see what the poster is saying though. The chance to virtue signal always seem to take priority over the actual sport. The have a tendency to go looking for social justice causes, and then the presenters comment one by one, each one being more offended than the next. Then it becomes a morality competition between them.

They didn't have to go looking for the story. Racing released a statement just as they where coming on air. An Irish international being racially abused in a rugby stadium in one of the four Provinces is newsworthy. A story you would fully expect a sports show to cover. From the inception of OTB, those in the studio during the newsround comment on the stories of the day. Other than what they said, what else would you expect them to say? Condemning racially abused is not "virtue signalling". So no, I can't "see what the poster is saying".

15-01-2019 04:44PM

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

Just finished watching Sunderland Til I Die last night, on the recommendation of the OTB guys. Thought it was amazing. Beautifully shot and captivating. I always wonder about how wise it is to let cameras in to the dressing room though. What the f**k was Gibson thinking though. They had just won 4-0 and spirits were high, and he goes drink driving and takes out a load of cars - the club lets him go, and they lose the next few games.

Was pretty shocked by the fans though. I know that they may have been playing it up for the cameras, but what a bunch of animals. The levels of abuse the players had to take was just ridiculous. I guess Gilroy would call them the "BREXIT down the stadium of light" gang.

Did anyone else notice some of the strange editing in the first few episodes? They clearly ran out of general shots as it would be in August and roasting and they would cut to a crowd shot with all of the fans wearing hats and gloves. There were plenty of weird shots like that.

With regard to Gibson, I have a little bit of sympathy for him. He was injured at the time of the drink driving incident and was not in the frame. His whole career has been blighted by injuries and never really took off. Having played in two Champions League semi-finals with Utd to wasting away his days on treatment tables and being dismissed as a has been must be hard.

People may dismiss that and point out all the things football has given him in terms of wealth, but being constantly injured can have a hugely damaging effect on sportspeople. Apart from the moronic incident with the fans and the awful drink driving, he actually struck me as a thoughtful enough person in the interviews they did with him.

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