Connacht Vs Ulster build up thread ( insert smart joke about both provinces here)

connemara man · 27-12-2018 1:44am #1

Dan McFarland returns to Connacht as the coach of a rival province.

The battle of the squad depth me thinks

troyzer · 27-12-2018 1:49am

Very much the undercard of the interpro weekend.

Sort of the Hurd vs Welborn to the Fury vs Wilder in Thomond Park this weekend.

They should let you lads play at half time actually, like the minis.

Peregrine · 27-12-2018 3:06am

troyzer wrote: »

They should let you lads play at half time actually, like the minis.

Well, it looks like Ulster are sending the kids down and Connacht should have the game won in fifteen minutes so it won't be far off the minis.

Burkie1203 · 27-12-2018 9:14am

Peregrine wrote: »

Well, it looks like Ulster are sending the kids down and Connacht should have the game won in fifteen minutes so it won't be far off the minis.

That gives them 65 minutes to throw it away again

ClanofLams · 27-12-2018 1:11pm

Truly shocking to see Leinster supporters living up to the stereotype of obnoxious dicks.

sydthebeat · 27-12-2018 1:12pm

Nothing wrong with that ulster team, should be a cracking game

connachta · 27-12-2018 1:20pm

Ulster lineup is strong. I'd take the 4 points
1st cap already for Fitzgerald n°2
Buckey and SOB are fit, that is massive good news

troyzer · 27-12-2018 1:21pm

ClanofLams wrote: »

Truly shocking to see Leinster supporters living up to the stereotype of obnoxious dicks.

It's true. Unless you'd argue that Connacht vs Ulster is a bigger draw?

jacothelad · 27-12-2018 1:27pm

ClanofLams wrote: »

Truly shocking to see Leinster supporters living up to the stereotype of obnoxious dicks.

That's not a stereotype.....that's just normality...:D

troyzer wrote: »

It's true. Unless you'd argue that Connacht vs Ulster is a bigger draw?

That depends on the size of your pencil.:D

troyzer · 27-12-2018 1:28pm

jacothelad wrote: »

ClanofLams wrote: »

Truly shocking to see Leinster supporters living up to the stereotype of obnoxious dicks.

That's not a stereotype.....that's just normality...:D

troyzer wrote: »

It's true. Unless you'd argue that Connacht vs Ulster is a bigger draw?

That depends on the size of your pencil.:D

HB mate.

[Deleted User] · 27-12-2018 1:32pm

troyzer wrote: »

It's true. Unless you'd argue that Connacht vs Ulster is a bigger draw?

I think it might well be the better game. Connacht were box office last weekend at times, absolute joy to watch. Ulster are on a roll and will have an axe to grind.

Leinster Munster hasn't been anything much to write home about of late, not as much bite and the match threads suggest supporters are similarly subdued about it.

I'll watch both, if I was a neutral I'd say I'd be equally as excited for one as the other.

jacothelad · 27-12-2018 1:48pm

troyzer wrote: »

HB mate.

Too soft. You need a 4H.:D

connachta · 27-12-2018 1:49pm

Ulster fans are right sometimes, taken from their own forum :

Poster wrote:
Moore versus Buckley will be one of the key contests. Buckley is criminally underrated by Joe Schidt but takes apart every scrum he goes against. Not sure what else he can do to get a cap

Other Poster answer :
Move to Leinster.

:rolleyes:

its_phil · 27-12-2018 1:56pm

troyzer wrote: »

ClanofLams wrote: »

Truly shocking to see Leinster supporters living up to the stereotype of obnoxious dicks.

It's true. Unless you'd argue that Connacht vs Ulster is a bigger draw?

If you’re concerned about declaring the box office billing of a game unrelated to this thread, then yes you’ve already gone over the obnoxious line.

Right up there with the Cummiskeys, Fitzgeralds, and Fannings of the world, who remind you where any Leinster player not playing for Leinster is actually from Leinster.

connachta · 27-12-2018 2:21pm

awec · 27-12-2018 2:23pm

The Ulster team is stronger than I hoped for, which means next week is being written off

connachta · 27-12-2018 2:27pm

connachta wrote: »

Buckley | Moore | 50/50
Delahunt|Herring |45/55
Carey | EOS | 45/55
Roux | Nagle | 60/40
Thornbury | Treadwell | 50/50
SOB | Timoney | 55/45
Fainga'a | Murphy | 45/55
Butler | Coetzee | 50/50
Blade | Cooney | 45/55 (because of kicking)
Carty | McPhillips | 60/40 (no Burns)
Aki | Cave | 70/30 (no McCloskey)
Farrell | Addison | 45/55
Kelleher | Speight | 50/50
Godwin | Kernohan | 70/30
Leader | Ludik | 45/55

Yeah I think some "head-to-head" are tighter than some expect : Treadwell, Timoney, Moore, on one side, Fainga'a, Farrell, Kelleher on the other may hold the comparison with their counterparts

Bench : No Bealham and Healy, those n°18 and 23 go Ulster's way, otherwise Connacht bench seems slightly stronger

Home advantage into account : Connacht + 5 would be my prediction

Guys it's a Christmas miracle. I've made a functional table

mfceiling · 27-12-2018 2:45pm

connachta wrote: »

Guys it's a Christmas miracle. I've made a functional table

It's something more than a miracle that you've Coetzee at 50/50 with Butler.

Bridge93 · 27-12-2018 2:51pm

There is no world where Cian Kelleher is 50/50 with Henry Speight either

connachta · 27-12-2018 3:08pm

mfceiling wrote: »

It's something more than a miracle that you've Coetzee at 50/50 with Butler.

Butler is not brillant but absolutely well-rounded player. I was nice with Cootzee.

Kelleher will amaze you. I was not a fan until late, but he has progressed a lot lately

Dubinusa · 27-12-2018 3:13pm

Butler level with Coetzee, c'mon. Not even near.
Not good for Dillane? Thought he'd done enough to start.

connachta · 27-12-2018 3:20pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

Butler level with Coetzee, c'mon. Not even near.
Not good for Dillane? Thought he'd done enough to start.

Dillane/Thornbury last week
Thornbury/Roux this week
Dillane/Roux next week
Maksymiew/Cannon/Gallagher to help out vs Sale

That's just perfect squad rotation

Squidgy Black · 27-12-2018 3:20pm

Fainga'a is not even remotely close to Jordi Murphy, how on earth can you say he's within 5% of him

connachta · 27-12-2018 3:24pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Fainga'a is not even remotely close to Jordi Murphy, how on earth can you say he's within 5% of him

Fainga'a is a great player. Always 10 + tackles per game
He is, as Butler, just too light to be international. But he's clearly 5% from being such.
Boyle will be a storm coming off the bench too. I'm not worried at all about back-row
I'm less convinced by Copeland, so is Friend. More shinny ball-carrier, less efficient all-round

troyzer · 27-12-2018 3:28pm

connachta wrote: »

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Fainga'a is not even remotely close to Jordi Murphy, how on earth can you say he's within 5% of him

Fainga'a is a great player. Always 10 + tackles per game
He is, as Butler, just too light to be international. But he's clearly 5% from being such.
Boyle will be a storm coming off the bench too. I'm not worried at all about back-row
I'm less convinced by Copeland, so is Friend. More shinny ball-carrier, less efficient all-round

I think you might be wearing green coloured glasses there.

With very, very, very thick lenses.

connachta · 27-12-2018 3:33pm

I was spot on anyway, if you're looking to the odds Connacht are 5 to 6 points favorites now the teams are known.

Favorite but tight.
If Connacht lose, it won't be in the back-row IMO

2 real elements of fear are :
- Leader/Wingers under constant pressure from box-kick-machine-Cooney
- Delahunt/Heff throws

Former Former · 27-12-2018 4:11pm

connachta wrote: »

I was spot on anyway, if you're looking to the odds Connacht are 5 to 6 points favorites now the teams are known.

Five points with Paddy Power but it was seven before the teams were announced so it's swung towards Ulster.

Home advantage alone makes Connacht favourite, but Coetzee and Murphy are vastly superior to Butler and Fainga'a.

flatty · 27-12-2018 4:21pm

Home advantage means we will win this pulling up. Anything else is just dissembling.

connachta · 27-12-2018 4:26pm

Former Former wrote: »

Five points with Paddy Power but it was seven before the teams were announced so it's swung towards Ulster.

Home advantage alone makes Connacht favourite, but Coetzee and Murphy are vastly superior to Butler and Fainga'a.

That would make you burn alive to admit it, but this Connacht team is slightly superior to Ulster's, even more without Burns, Stockdale and McCloskey.
As Connacht XV was superior to Leinster's, and lost from the bench impacts

Clegg · 27-12-2018 4:33pm

Godwin on the wing again is a ballsy call. It's not his best position. He got a proper doing over from Adam Byrne last week.

bilston · 27-12-2018 4:33pm

connachta wrote: »

Buckley | Moore | 50/50
Delahunt|Herring |45/55
Carey | EOS | 45/55
Roux | Nagle | 60/40
Thornbury | Treadwell | 50/50
SOB | Timoney | 55/45
Fainga'a | Murphy | 45/55
Butler | Coetzee | 50/50
Blade | Cooney | 45/55 (because of kicking)
Carty | McPhillips | 60/40 (no Burns)
Aki | Cave | 70/30 (no McCloskey)
Farrell | Addison | 45/55
Kelleher | Speight | 50/50
Godwin | Kernohan | 70/30
Leader | Ludik | 45/55

Yeah I think some "head-to-head" are tighter than some expect : Treadwell, Timoney, Moore, on one side, Fainga'a, Farrell, Kelleher on the other may hold the comparison with their counterparts

Bench : No Bealham and Healy, those n°18 and 23 go Ulster way, otherwise Connacht bench seems slightly stronger

Home advantage into account : Connacht + 5 would be my prediction

Butler and Coetzee are 50/50?

Connacht Vs Ulster build up thread ( insert smart joke about both provinces here)

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