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Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

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    #1382
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    gandalf wrote: »
    FFS no they aren't! Two are in their mid fifties and the other is mid sixties.

    Mid sixties is pension age.


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    #1383
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    mariaalice wrote: »
    No farmer is going to buy the land at least not local farmers and someone from outside would not be able to farm it as they could not be sure as what would be happening when they were not there because of the way they acquired the land. Complete fail fail for KBC. The occupants are elderly KBC would have got there money when they died.

    Lovely welcoming community there. Must be the fabeled rural Ireland friendlyness I keep hearing of up here in the big smoke.


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    #1384
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Complete fail fail for KBC. The occupants are elderly KBC would have got there money when they died.
    In 30 years time?


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    #1385
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Mid sixties is pension age.

    FFS it's not elderly by todays standard. My mother is in her mid seventies and she deck me if I called her elderly!


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    #1386
    tipptom
    Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    listermint wrote: »
    Boasting ?

    The plank on the video kept on refering to him as Irish and he said I'm British.


    Talk about twisting a story to suit an agenda.

    Yeah,so you think the UDA thug didn't know what he was saying in a border county during an eviction and was announcing that to take the tension out of the situation?:rolleyes:


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    #1387
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    Lovely welcoming community there. Must be the fabeled rural Ireland friendlyness I keep hearing of up here in the big smoke.
    This is Local stuff for Local People....Not for Un-Local people .


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    #1388
    Naos
    Registered Users Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Naos


    mariaalice wrote: »
    No farmer is going to buy the land at least not local farmers and someone from outside would not be able to farm it as they could not be sure as what would be happening when they were not there because of the way they acquired the land. Complete fail fail for KBC. The occupants are elderly KBC would have got there money when they died.

    In thirty years time.

    And then everyone that has a KBC mortgage would just think grand, I'll stop paying now sure I'll be dead in 40 years and the bank can have the house then.


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    #1389
    riemann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »
    Lovely welcoming community there. Must be the fabeled rural Ireland friendlyness I keep hearing of up here in the big smoke.

    All that smog is going to your head.


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    #1390
    Sycamore Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    tipptom wrote: »
    Yeah,so you think the UDA thug didn't know what he was saying in a border county during an eviction and was announcing that to take the tension out of the situation?:rolleyes:

    How is Roscommon a border county???


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    #1391
    jmayo
    Registered Users Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    tipptom wrote: »
    If that someone somewhere had of had the cop on not to bring a Loyalist hit squad to a border county boasting about their Britishness to stoke up tensions then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    Roscommon isn't near the border

    tipptom wrote: »
    Yeah,so you think the UDA thug didn't know what he was saying in a border county during an eviction and was announcing that to take the tension out of the situation?:rolleyes:

    Look up a map.
    Roscommon is not a border county.

    How many times do you have to be told for it to sink in.


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    #1392
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,413 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    blinding wrote: »
    This is Local stuff for Local People....Not for Un-Local people .

    Not really when it affects every taxpayer and everyone who has a mortgage with KBC.

    Perhaps Roscommon should set up it's own bank and it's own Revenue for only the people of Roscommon, and it can give out mortages that don't need to be paid back and collect and spend it's own taxes. It seems that a section of the people in Roscommon think their local businesses should be tax exempt.


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    #1393
    padd b1975
    Registered Users Posts: 10,704 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Jeff2 wrote: »
    Fair bit of damage done to the house.

    I'd say they'll need to pay in cash to anyone they get in to repair it. :)

    Upfront too!


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    #1394
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,376 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    In 30 years time?

    I did not make a comment on the rights or wrongs of the situation just on the practical realities of what would most likely happen if someone buys a repossessed farm in a small community, KBC were a bit silly not to take that in to account.


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    #1395
    [Deleted User]
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    Could somebody enlighten me as to why Gardai don't carry out evictions?

    the police force of the country cant be involved in civil law.
    They have enough criminal law to deal with.

    Do you really think the police should be forcing people out of their homes? Gardai should never become involved in evictions.


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    #1396
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Sycamore Tree wrote: »
    How is Roscommon a border county???

    Because it borders Leitrim which borders Cavan which borders Northern Ireland. It's a mid-north-west thing. Don't turn your back on us, we are cute hoors up this way. ;)


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    #1397
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    heres the farmer featuring on the tax defaulters list in 2015 https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-feature-on-2015-revenue-tax-defaulters-list/
    Co. Roscommon farmer Anthony McGann has a penalty of €177,388.00 by the Revenue commissioners for under-declaration of VAT. In total the farmer, from Mount Brown, Strokestown owes a total of €429,501.00 to the Revenue and is the farmer with the largest figure on the tax defaulters list.
    revenue doc via rte https://static.rasset.ie/documents/business/defaulters-list2-june2015.pdf


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    #1398
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    jmayo wrote: »
    The only money grabbing I see is from the individual who took out a loan and hasn't paid it back, under declared his VAT that he owed revenue and ran up debts with local businesses..

    @expectationalist I'll see your 400k and match you 500k

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/revenue-inspector-concluded-michael-lowry-owed-over-516-000-1.3532153

    What was it that Ruth Coppinger said of the fines ? Chicken feed wasn't it.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-lowrys-sentence-for-tax-offences-a-chicken-feed-fine-37057639.html


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    #1399
    Bonzo Delaney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    riemann wrote: »
    Interesting reading.

    Hanly getting a judgement against anyone is ironic.

    This story just keeps giving


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    #1400
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,687 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    riemann wrote: »
    Case and point.

    Quiet day over on journal.ie?

    Can you give some examples of posts that are foaming.

    I'm intrigued by your take on the matter.

    To the average reader it appears to are attempting to rile people up using some play ground antics but no one is taking the bait.

    But please cite some examples of the foam and anger in posts.

    Especially ones of mine since you are directing your hilarity my way.


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    #1401
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,687 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    STB. wrote: »
    @expectationalist I'll see your 400k and match you 500k

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/revenue-inspector-concluded-michael-lowry-owed-over-516-000-1.3532153

    Amazing people come the the rescue if tax defaulters with whataboutery .


    Can all tax defaulters not be considered in the wrong...


    Equally..


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    #1402
    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Im just glad there is huge support for the people that threw that security firm out, great to see people backing there own over money and scumbag banks.

    The money owed was for under declaration of VAT. So he did work for people like you. Charged you VAT and you paid it to him. Then he put that VAT money in his own pocket. So he didn't screw the bank, he screwed people like you.


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    #1403
    Sycamore Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    Zorya wrote: »
    Because it borders Leitrim which borders Cavan which borders Northern Ireland. It's a mid-north-west thing. Don't turn your back on us, we are cute hoors up this way. ;)

    You're all sheep stealers in my view! :)


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    #1404
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    awec wrote: »
    Not really when it affects every taxpayer and everyone who has a mortgage with KBC.


    How does it effect KBC customers ?

    KBC profits in Ireland for the first 6 months of 2018 - 116 million.

    Sold their distressed loans of just under 2 billion to vulture funds.


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    #1405
    Bonzo Delaney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    awec wrote: »
    Not really when it affects every taxpayer and everyone who has a mortgage with KBC.

    Perhaps Roscommon should set up it's own bank and it's own Revenue for only the people of Roscommon, and it can give out mortages that don't need to be paid back and collect and spend it's own taxes. It seems that a section of the people in Roscommon think their local businesses should be tax exempt.
    Sure aren't the roscommon co coucil on the tax defaulted list themselves this year must be a Roscommon thing


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    #1406
    gandalf
    Registered Users Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    STB. wrote: »
    How does it effect KBC customers ?


    KBC profits in Ireland for the first 6 months of 2018 - 113 million.


    Sold their distressed loans of 2 billion to vulture funds.

    You see all the banks are selling their distressed loans to vulture funds because they don't want to deal with the fallout of evictions and who can blame them looking at yesterdays assault.


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    #1407
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Anthony McGann, of Falsk, near Strokestown, Co Roscommon, is the registered owner of five land portfolios in the Land Registry, all of which have had the same judgment orders registered against them.






    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439


    The earliest court judgment registered against Mr McGann’s Co Roscommon property in the Land Registry files was in 1997, when an amount of £6,994 (€8,853) was at the centre of a dispute with ACC Bank in the Circuit Court. It appears the debt was cleared in 2002.

    However a debt of €37,960 with ACC Asset Finance, which was the subject of a High Court order in 2009, remains registered against Mr McGann’s interest in the Co Roscommon land.

    In the same month in 2009, a Co Roscommon business called Hanly Brothers Ltd registered a debt of €18,236 after securing a Circuit Court order against Mr McGann. That debt remains outstanding, the registry records indicate.
    planning for a house in 2001 http://apps.roscommoncoco.ie/PlanningListsPre2010/2005/Oct%2005/granted%2010-14%20october.pdf


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    #1408
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Sycamore Tree wrote: »
    How is Roscommon a border county???
    Mayo , Galway , Sligo , Leitrim . Loyalists took too much in 1922 . Just no good at Geography or Evictions .;)


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    #1409
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    listermint wrote: »
    Amazing people come the the rescue if tax defaulters with whataboutery .

    Can all tax defaulters not be considered in the wrong...

    Equally..


    I'm not ! I despise them all equally!


    It crept into the thread though. Some of the people who we are meant to hold in high regard are equally of importance when it comes to accountability.


    No whataboutery. Simple point. Same way the biggest tax defaulter this year in Roscommon was Roscommon County Council, just under a half mill in settlement.


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    #1410
    noodler
    Registered Users Posts: 26,244 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    STB. wrote: »
    How does it effect KBC customers ?

    KBC profits in Ireland for the first 6 months of 2018 - 116 million.

    Sold their distressed loans of just under 2 billion to vulture funds.

    Emm yeah, key word being distressed,i.e. Sold at a loss.

    And what's their profits got to do with it?

    They should dorgore profits to allow those who choose get a free ride?


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    #1411
    Essien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    Sycamore Tree wrote: »
    How is Roscommon a border county???

    How is a 55 year old elderly?

    How is a person from Northern Ireland a loyalist paramilitary?

    How is a tax defaulter a hero?

    How are the banks responsible for all this?


    None of these are questions that will be answered in this thread.


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