Syrian boy bullied in Huddersfield

Faugheen · 28-11-2018 1:07pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Faugheen's racist count has turned back over to 0 ... jesus.
Irony is he is the real racist as he sees this as much more serious, as the victim here is Syrian.

No actually.

I see people using whataboutery of Muslims being scumbags to deflect attention away from the fact that a kid from a racist background tried to waterboard a Syrian refugee, just weeks after allegedly breaking his arm.

It’s a shocking story, but some people’s first thoughts are ‘oh but what about what these migrants are doing’.

What have those cases got to do with this one? F*ck all.

I also see those same people continuing to argue a toss with me over it, again to deflect attention away from the issue, instead of saying ‘you know what? Yeah what a wanker’.

That, to me, suggests a racial undertone in the posts made and I called it out.

You keep defending them though.

suicide_circus · 28-11-2018 1:11pm

looks like a young lad being treated like anyone else in the society - people get bullied for any and all reasons and this kid is not exempt, you might call it integration.

Sardonicat · 28-11-2018 1:12pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

You watched the news recently? Or are you implying that this kid is from the really nice, quiet, peaceful part of Syria that has never been under threat from any of the above?

You are either a vile and nasty scumbag or a complete ****ing moron. Possibly, and most likely, both.

Large parts of Syria were and are unscathed by the war. Again, do you know the kid or his circumstances personally??

And that's why he left his lovely unscathed home. To risk his life in the process. Cos he's from a place unscathed by that war. That makes perfect sense, doesn't it.? He wanted to milk tje British tax payers, eh..
When are you off to the other side of the world for no reason, risking your safety in the process? You live somewhere unscathed by war, I take it. It's not like, you know, if he had a relative associated with rebels his family would be targeted by the regime now, is it? Or, conversely, having a relative associated with the regime would not make his family and target for rebel factions.

So which are you? Moron or Scumbag?

ZeroThreat · 28-11-2018 1:14pm

Faugheen wrote: »

Just as I expected, people use the thread to post vile **** about Syrians or completely unrelated posts about times people from Arabic countries were scumbags as if it excuses what has happened to a boy who already has a broken arm.

What a bunch of dinosaurs some people on this toxic cesspit of a forum are.

Strange, I've been through this thread just now. I'll admit there's a fair bit of whataboutery, but I can't see anyone posting 'vile *** about Syrians' as you're claiming.

If this place is too toxic for you, you're not obliged to stay here you know.

hmmm faugheen, kinda sounds like Fintan, as in Fintan O'Toole airhead liberal crybaby of the Irish media. You're reacting as I'd imagine that snowflake would were he here.

Sardonicat · 28-11-2018 1:15pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

looks like a young lad being treated like anyone else in the society - people get bullied for any and all reasons and this kid is not exempt, you might call it integration.

Yeah, you know your embraced by the community when your being attacked.

suicide_circus · 28-11-2018 1:17pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

Yeah, you know your embraced by the community when your being attacked.

so natives never attack natives?

StereoSound · 28-11-2018 1:17pm

Meanwhile in Ireland we have our own problem, African heritage school boys ganging up in Balbriggan robbing children on the street and threatening pregnant women and their unborn children with broken glass bottles... Wheres the gratitude after their parents were welcomed here and granted asylum? Fcking disgraceful!

Faugheen · 28-11-2018 1:18pm

ZeroThreat wrote: »

Strange, I've been through this thread just now. I'll admit there's a fair bit of whataboutery, but I can't see anyone posting 'vile *** about Syrians' as you're claiming.

If this place is too toxic for you, you're not obliged to stay here you know.

hmmm faugheen, kinda sounds like Fintan, as in Fintan O'Toole airhead liberal crybaby of the Irish media. You're reacting as I'd imagine that snowflake would were he here.

That’s what you’re taking out of this thread?

Something completely unrelated and responding to me calling this place a toxic cesspit by comparing me to Fintan O’Toole?

Thanks for proving my point.

Sardonicat · 28-11-2018 1:20pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

Yeah, you know your embraced by the community when your being attacked.

so natives never attack natives?

Yeah they do. Are you ACTUALLY arguing that the fact this lad was assaulted is a positive sign? Go to see a doctor.

ZeroThreat · 28-11-2018 1:22pm

Faugheen wrote: »

That’s what you’re taking out of this thread?

Something completely unrelated and responding to me calling this place a toxic cesspit by comparing me to Fintan O’Toole?

Thanks for proving my point.

Calm down dear, you're becoming hysterical.

suicide_circus · 28-11-2018 1:25pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

Yeah they do. Are you ACTUALLY arguing that the fact this lad was assaulted is a positive sign? Go to see a doctor.

not positive but shows he is not immune from the normal cruelty of day to day interpersonal interactions, hardly news/cashworthy

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 1:28pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

And that's why he left his lovely unscathed home. To risk his life in the process. Cos he's from a place unscathed by that war. That makes perfect sense, doesn't it.? He wanted to milk tje British tax payers, eh..
When are you off to the other side of the world for no reason, risking your safety in the process? You live somewhere unscathed by war, I take it. It's not like, you know, if he had a relative associated with rebels his family would be targeted by the regime now, is it? Or, conversely, having a relative associated with the regime would not make his family and target for rebel factions.

So which are you? Moron or Scumbag?

Again, with the bolded part, do you know this kid and his circumstances personally?? Or just spit-balling nonsense??

You asked me earlier if I watched the news. You must have missed the numerous episodes about the hundreds of thousands of economic migrants trying to get to the honeypot of Europe for a better standard of living.

riffmongous · 28-11-2018 1:31pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What was the fecking point of posting this thread other than to create conflict?

Yeah versus all the conflict free threads we usually get from the same handful of toxic posters and their re-reg buddies

28-11-2018 1:35pm

Faugheen wrote:

the fact that a kid from a racist background tried to waterboard a Syrian refugee.

But you see, that didn't happen. And that's why people can't take you seriously.

Before you call me a racist or demand me to disavow bullying, I will gladly say that I condemn the actions in the video. Most if not all, people here do.

But we see no need to make this worse than it is by saying it is a "fact" that someone attempted to waterboard a child.

Completely different. It's like equating an unwanted bum squeeze to rape.

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-11-2018 1:35pm

England in a nutshell in one short video.

28-11-2018 1:58pm

Patww79 wrote:

England in a nutshell in one short video.

I agree. The whole of England is so intolerant of Muslims/foreigners and judge them all on the actions of very few.

........ I'm sure you haven't missed the irony there.

Cockford Ollie · 28-11-2018 2:04pm

It would be fairly handy to make a video like this, act out some event the SJWs could get outraged at to the point they donate to a Go Fund Me page.

Easy money.

volchitsa · 28-11-2018 2:08pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

an interrogation technique simulating the experience of drowning, in which a person is strapped head downwards on a sloping board or bench with the mouth and nose covered, while large quantities of water are poured over the face, pretty much covers it. Getting less water squirted into your face than you'd get in a water fight wouldn't cover it in my opinion.

Right, so as I suggested, you would indeed be a "This isn't torture, this is merely enhanced interrogation" kind of guy. :mad:

You realize that "waterboarding" doesn't actually need a board, right? It's merely a variant on forms of water torture that have existed for centuries. And even in its current guise, it doesn't require huge amounts of water : one bit you missed out is that a cloth is often put over the person's mouth and nose so that even small amounts of water block their breathing more effectively. Putting someone in a chokehold first could be another new and fun variation to increase the effect - after all, the old ones must get so boring after a while.

But no, you think it's "less water than you'd get in a water fight" :rolleyes:

This is a 15 year old kid FFS, whatever his nationality. But hey, the people who think it's shocking to any sort of variation on the theme of water torture to a kid are hysterical Helen Lovejoys (whoever that is) and it's just a bit of fun, like a water fight really.

That's how bullying and even abuse was allowed in the past, by hypothetically disapproving of it while systematically minimising it when it happened, and by calling those who don't want to go along with that narrative, "hysterical."

volchitsa · 28-11-2018 2:13pm

Oh and by the way, a couple of points from Wikipedia about waterboarding :

Webster's Dictionary first included the term in 2009: "[A]n interrogation technique in which water is forced into a detainee's mouth and nose so as to induce the sensation of drowning."

Doesn't have to have a board.

Technique

Waterboarding was characterized in 2005 by former CIA director Porter J. Goss as a "professional interrogation technique". According to press accounts, a cloth or plastic wrap is placed over or in the person's mouth, and water is poured onto the person's head. Press accounts differ on the details of this technique – one article describes "dripping water into a wet cloth over a suspect's face", while another states that "cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him".

And this, I think, is relevant:

Professor Darius Rejali of Reed College, author of Torture and Democracy (2007), speculates that the term waterboarding probably has its origin in the need for a euphemism.

"There is a special vocabulary for torture. When people use tortures that are old, they rename them and alter them a wee bit. They invent slightly new words to mask the similarities. This creates an inside club, especially important in work where secrecy matters. Waterboarding is clearly a jailhouse joke. It refers to surfboarding"– a word found as early as 1929– "they are attaching somebody to a board and helping them surf. Torturers create names that are funny to them."

The kid was subjected to a form of suffocation that would frighten an adult, never mind a 15 year old.

But hey, yeah, call it "less water than you'd get in a water fight" and go on siding with the bullies.

Sardonicat · 28-11-2018 2:13pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

And that's why he left his lovely unscathed home. To risk his life in the process. Cos he's from a place unscathed by that war. That makes perfect sense, doesn't it.? He wanted to milk tje British tax payers, eh..
When are you off to the other side of the world for no reason, risking your safety in the process? You live somewhere unscathed by war, I take it. It's not like, you know, if he had a relative associated with rebels his family would be targeted by the regime now, is it? Or, conversely, having a relative associated with the regime would not make his family and target for rebel factions.

So which are you? Moron or Scumbag?

Again, with the bolded part, do you know this kid and his circumstances personally?? Or just spit-balling nonsense??

You asked me earlier if I watched the news. You must have missed the numerous episodes about the hundreds of thousands of economic migrants trying to get to the honeypot of Europe for a better standard of living.

This boy is NOT one of them. He is from Syria. So you are trying to shoehorn a seperate issue into a thread about a an attack on an injured boy from Syria. Why would you bring economic immigrants into this thread when it is not the topic of the thread? What have economic migrants got to do with a boy from Syria being bullied ? What possible reasons could you have for doing that, I wonder?
Like I surmised earlier, you are either a nasty scumbag who's trying to **** stir for cynical reasons or one of the many thick as pig**** morons who can't see through the cynical manipulation of their own stupidity.

4068ac1elhodqr · 28-11-2018 2:14pm

Patww79 wrote: »

England in a nutshell in one short video.

Well Huddersfield (where it took place), in a nutshell:

Increasing tension between many growing diverse communites
Rampant child grooming gang exposed, further increasing ethnic tensions.
Overstretched resources leading to packed, unsupervised schools
Budget cuts from central government across youth clubs and policing
Significant procedural failures from public & social services
etc...

28-11-2018 2:15pm

volchitsa wrote: »

Oh and by the way, a couple of points from Wikipedia about waterboarding :

Doesn't have to have a board.

And this, I think, is relevant:

We both agree that this was horrible and disgraceful. I just disagree that it was waterboarding and feel that by overselling/exaggerating the abhorrent behaviour, you are lessening the impact of the bullying. It's like saying every intentional foul in football is a definite attempt to break someones leg as it is vaguely similar process to that which could lead to a leg break.

You really think this is waterboarding?

Ok. Nothing left to say then I suppose.

volchitsa · 28-11-2018 2:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You really think this is waterboarding?

I don't think he was tortured anything like as effectively as the CIA would have done, so to that extent no.

But I do think that when someone else said he was water boarded, it's not an entirely risible comparison, which is what the poster I was replying was saying.

The term waterboarding is not some copyrighted legal term, there are all sorts of improvised variations on a theme. This was a 15 year old, and he was subjected to an improvised, not terribly effective form of suffocation using water.

Pedantry about the term used is done to minimise that.

Ok. Nothing left to say then I suppose.

And yet you do, it seems.

We both agree that this was horrible and disgraceful. I just disagree that it was waterboarding and feel that by overselling/exaggerating the abhorrent behaviour, you are lessening the impact of the bullying.

I didn't call it that, I'm just saying that the poster who ridiculed the very notion is being disingenuous. As are you.

Gatling · 28-11-2018 2:27pm

volchitsa wrote: »

Oh and by the way, a couple of points from Wikipedia about waterboarding :

Doesn't have to have a board.

If it rains does it count as mass waterboarding

28-11-2018 2:32pm

volchitsa wrote: »

Pedantry about the term used is done to minimise that.
.

I would argue that it is you that is guilty of pedantry to maximise the incident.

Squeezing water into someone's face and classing it as an ineffective term of waterboarding is bizarre and a gross exaggeration of a horrible act of bullying.

volchitsa · 28-11-2018 2:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I would argue that it is you that are guilty of pedantry to maximise the incident.

Squeezing water into someone's face and classing it as an ineffective term of waterboarding is bizarre and a gross exaggeration of a horrible act of bullying.

Other than saying it was an attempt to kill or maim the victim - which nobody has suggested - could you explain what a "gross exaggeration" of a "horrible act" looks like?

Surely if it's a "horrible" act, then describing it as something horrible is hardly a gross exaggeration?

Maybe a minor exaggeration in an attempt to stop people from writing it off as pretty comparable to, say, a water fight? Or indeed, to "squeezing water in someone's face".

Because that's how that comes across to me, and TBH I think the problem is those people who think it's fair enough to compare it to a water fight, not the one who compared it to a torture technique.

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 2:50pm

volchitsa wrote: »

Right, so as I suggested, you would indeed be a "This isn't torture, this is merely enhanced interrogation" kind of guy. :mad:

You realize that "waterboarding" doesn't actually need a board, right? It's merely a variant on forms of water torture that have existed for centuries. And even in its current guise, it doesn't require huge amounts of water : one bit you missed out is that a cloth is often put over the person's mouth and nose so that even small amounts of water block their breathing more effectively. Putting someone in a chokehold first could be another new and fun variation to increase the effect - after all, the old ones must get so boring after a while.

But no, you think it's "less water than you'd get in a water fight" :rolleyes:

This is a 15 year old kid FFS, whatever his nationality. But hey, the people who think it's shocking to any sort of variation on the theme of water torture to a kid are hysterical Helen Lovejoys (whoever that is) and it's just a bit of fun, like a water fight really.

That's how bullying and even abuse was allowed in the past, by hypothetically disapproving of it while systematically minimising it when it happened, and by calling those who don't want to go along with that narrative, "hysterical."

It's neither torture nor enhance interrogation, its a squirt of water in the face and hair. You'd get worse from a blast of a super soaker.

super_furry · 28-11-2018 2:53pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

All these re-reg accounts are very annoying.

It what has After Hours so far down in the pits right now. It'd be easy to stop too by imposing a wait on new accounts posting like in Soccer, but the Admins don't seem bothered.

volchitsa · 28-11-2018 2:54pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

It's neither torture nor enhance interrogation, its a squirt of water in the face and hair. You'd get worse from a blast of a super soaker.

And you really don't see much difference between choosing to have a water fight with a bunch of friends, where you can stop whenever you want, and what happened in that incident?

Not to mention that it's been suggested that the same people broke his arm.

But yeah, sure, it's like play fighting with your friends. Off you go.

facehugger99 · 28-11-2018 2:58pm

DS86DS wrote: »

Funny how you don't hear about the kids in German schools been attacked on a continual basis by the children of Syrian immigrants.

Selective outrage from the Whitey-is-evil brigade as usual.

Ah yes, the poor western white male demographic :rolleyes:

98q76e12hrflnk · 28-11-2018 3:00pm

super_furry wrote: »

It what has After Hours so far down in the pits right now. It'd be easy to stop too by imposing a wait on new accounts posting like in Soccer, but the Admins don't seem bothered.

No, its knobheads talking about getting a bit of water in their face and saying its waterboarding. My god there are some sensitive souls here.

yoke · 28-11-2018 3:00pm

StereoSound wrote: »

Meanwhile in Ireland we have our own problem, African heritage school boys ganging up in Balbriggan robbing children on the street and threatening pregnant women and their unborn children with broken glass bottles... Wheres the gratitude after their parents were welcomed here and granted asylum? Fcking disgraceful!

Well what do you expect if they grow up their whole lives being called n*gger whenever someone wants to have a go at them?

You can’t expect people to integrate if you don’t treat them as your equals - keep differentiating by calling them pejorative names and they will treat you differently back, it’s only natural.

Conversely, treat them the same and you will notice that they become the same as you, over time.

One of my kid’s friends is black (born in Ireland), he got suspended from school for fighting one time... I gathered later on that the fight started because the other guy called him n*gger

ZeroThreat · 28-11-2018 3:01pm

super_furry wrote: »

It what has After Hours so far down in the pits right now. It'd be easy to stop too by imposing a wait on new accounts posting like in Soccer, but the Admins don't seem bothered.

At least people can have their say here, no matter whether you agree or not. Unlike other online media organs which usually close comments on anything remotely controversial.......https://www.thejournal.ie/syria-refugee-teen-uk-assault-video-4364636-Nov2018/

28-11-2018 3:01pm

volchitsa wrote:

Because that's how that comes across to me, and TBH I think the problem is those people who think it's fair enough to compare it to a water fight, not the one who compared it to a torture technique.

Nobody compared the act to a water fight. They compared the amount of water used as less than would be used in a water fight.

volchitsa wrote:

But yeah, sure, it's like play fighting with your friends. Off you go.

Nobody suggested that.

It seems that you are reading between lines that do not exist.

98q76e12hrflnk · 28-11-2018 3:03pm

yoke wrote: »

Well what do you expect if they grow up their whole lives being called n*gger whenever someone wants to have a go at them?

You can’t expect people to integrate if you don’t treat them as your equals - keep differentiating by calling them pejorative names and they will treat you differently back, it’s only natural.

Conversely, treat them the same and you will notice that they become the same as you, over time.

One of my kid’s friends is black (born in Ireland), he got suspended from school for fighting one time... I gathered later on that the fight started because the other guy called him n*gger

What a load of sh*t.

professore · 28-11-2018 3:04pm

What would be the ideal outcome is if that bullying sack of sh1t gets his come uppance and bullying in general gets highlighted.

However what is likely to happen is that it will be framed as a racist attack - which it may or may not be, as that thick English lad looks like the sort that lives to bully - and English kids will be severely punished if they stand up to a refugee kid bullying them and refugee and islamic bullies will be able to bully with no consequences.

This same mentality allowed thousands of girls to be raped and prostituted like chattel for years. And then people wonder why Tommy Robinson is popular.

98q76e12hrflnk · 28-11-2018 3:06pm

professore wrote: »

What would be the ideal outcome is if that bullying sack of sh1t gets his come uppance and bullying in general gets highlighted.

However what is likely to happen is that it will be framed as a racist attack - which it may or may not be - and English kids will be severely punished if they stand up to a refugee kid bullying them and refugee and islamic bullies will be able to bully with no consequences.

This same mentality allowed thousands of girls to be raped and prostituted like chattel for years. And then people wonder why Tommy Robinson is popular.

Spot on.

circadian · 28-11-2018 3:06pm

Ah yes, Lowerhouses. What a dive of an area. Huddersfield has to be one of the most racist ****holes I've ever had the misfortune of spending time in.

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 3:06pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

This boy is NOT one of them. He is from Syria. So you are trying to shoehorn a seperate issue into a thread about a an attack on an injured boy from Syria. Why would you bring economic immigrants into this thread when it is not the topic of the thread? What have economic migrants got to do with a boy from Syria being bullied ? What possible reasons could you have for doing that, I wonder?
Like I surmised earlier, you are either a nasty scumbag who's trying to **** stir for cynical reasons or one of the many thick as pig**** morons who can't see through the cynical manipulation of their own stupidity.

What part of Syria is he from?? You seem to know so much about him.

Faugheen · 28-11-2018 3:10pm

ZeroThreat wrote: »

At least people can have their say here, no matter whether you agree or not. Unlike other online media organs which usually close comments on anything remotely controversial.......https://www.thejournal.ie/syria-refugee-teen-uk-assault-video-4364636-Nov2018/

You do realise it says right at the end of the article why the comments are closed, yes?

StereoSound · 28-11-2018 3:13pm

yoke wrote: »

Well what do you expect if they grow up their whole lives being called n*gger whenever someone wants to have a go at them?

Rubbish, no excuse to threaten the life of an innocent woman and her child while she went to the aid of a young boy being attacked and robbed in the fashion that happened recently in Balbriggan.

nullzero · 28-11-2018 3:15pm

A real English lion heart, like a young John Terry.

ZeroThreat · 28-11-2018 3:35pm

Faugheen wrote: »

You do realise it says right at the end of the article why the comments are closed, yes?

Usually thejournal just says 'comments are closed for legal reasons' in relation to something that happens in the RoI. Normally anything that happens abroad has comments enabled whether someone has been charged or not. I'd say they just decided they didn't have the time or energy to moderate comments that such an article typically generates.

weldoninhio · 28-11-2018 3:38pm

ZeroThreat wrote: »

Usually thejournal just says 'comments are closed for legal reasons' in relation to something that happens in the RoI. Normally anything that happens abroad has comments enabled whether someone has been charged or not. I'd say they just decided they didn't have the time or energy to moderate comments that such an article typically generates.

Comments are also closed on the Ballybrack story. Nothing legal about that, like you said, i'd say they can't be arsed moderating it.

Zorya · 28-11-2018 3:50pm

What an ugly back and forth about what is obviously a contemptible incident. Just because people condemn one incident why do others come in and say Oh but what about the million other incidents?

As for the waterboarding analogy, it is obvious this is not overt waterboarding but it is an ugly form of bullying using water. It is reported that the bully said to the boy ''I will drown you,'' which indicates he knew he was going to try and induce that sensation via choking and water.

The boys sister was so badly bullied in the same school, including having her scarf ripped off, that she tried to commit suicide by slitting her wrists. The boy had a broken wrist from an earlier attack, I don't know who the attackers that time were.

The children are war refugees from Homs, Syria.

This kind of mocking ''Pshaw, shure isn't it the same bullying we all had,'' is trivialising the events, and is wrong and small-minded. These children are obviously being subjected to an orchestrated campaign of abuse from rotten nasty gougers and I hope the bullies are severely punished and expelled from school.

ohnonotgmail · 28-11-2018 4:03pm

The kids FB page is now known. Unsurprisingly he is a tommy robinson fan. Along with a couple of FB pages for football casuals.

lawred2 · 28-11-2018 4:13pm

Zorya wrote: »

What an ugly back and forth about what is obviously a contemptible incident. Just because people condemn one incident why do others come in and say Oh but what about the million other incidents?

As for the waterboarding analogy, it is obvious this is not overt waterboarding but it is an ugly form of bullying using water. It is reported that the bully said to the boy ''I will drown you,'' which indicates he knew he was going to try and induce that sensation via choking and water.

The boys sister was so badly bullied in the same school, including having her scarf ripped off, that she tried to commit suicide by slitting her wrists. The boy had a broken wrist from an earlier attack, I don't know who the attackers that time were.

The children are war refugees from Homs, Syria.

This kind of mocking ''Pshaw, shure isn't it the same bullying we all had,'' is trivialising the events, and is wrong and small-minded. These children are obviously being subjected to an orchestrated campaign of abuse from rotten nasty gougers and I hope the bullies are severely punished and expelled from school.

yeah but how do you know it's not a leafy middle class area of Homs? well? Wholly unscathed or ravaged by conflict? huh?

Or something

Zorya · 28-11-2018 4:16pm

lawred2 wrote: »

yeah but how do you know it's not a leafy middle class area of Homs? well? Wholly unscathed or ravaged by conflict? huh?

Or something

Hmmm. I'm thinking that's sarcasm, sometimes it's hard to know around here.

professore · 28-11-2018 4:18pm

Zorya wrote: »

This kind of mocking ''Pshaw, shure isn't it the same bullying we all had,'' is trivialising the events, and is wrong and small-minded. These children are obviously being subjected to an orchestrated campaign of abuse from rotten nasty gougers and I hope the bullies are severely punished and expelled from school.

Have you ever seen bullying? The bolded above is exactly what it is. And it can go on for years. Calling someone gay once or something is not bullying in any meaningful sense.

Zorya · 28-11-2018 4:21pm

professore wrote: »

Have you ever seen bullying? The bolded above is exactly what it is. And it can go on for years. Calling someone gay once or something is not bullying in any meaningful sense.

Yes. I homeschooled my children due to pervasive bullying as we were outsiders in an isolated rural community. You don't need to explain to me what bullying looks like.