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    #2222
    iminterestd0
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    FrannoFan wrote: »
    Anyone know how French went for munster A? Exciting prospect

    has been very good by all accounts in his appearances.

    highly skilled with good awareness.


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    #2223
    iminterestd0
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    David Hawkshaw is a full leinster academy player now. No longer part of sub-academy group.


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    #2224
    BlueAndWh1te
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    Where did you hear that?


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    #2225
    Heymans
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    iminterestd0 wrote: »
    Leinster Schools League

    SCT Results:
    Castleknock College 60 V 0 St Andrews College
    Newbridge College 24 V 13 Cistercian College Roscrea
    Presentation College Bray 50 V 15 The Kings Hospital
    Kilkenny College 36 V 14 CBC Monkstown
    Wesley College 24 V 21 St Gerards School

    JCT results:
    Castleknock College 31 V 17 Temple Carrig
    Cistercian College Roscrea 5 V 10 Newbridge College
    The Kings Hospital 0 V 66 Presentation College Bray
    CBC Monkstown 17 V 15 Kilkenny College
    Gonzaga College 62 V 5 CUS
    St Gerards School 7 V 12 Wesley College

    Any results from this weekend?


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    #2226
    jmn51927
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    Heymans wrote: »
    Any results from this weekend?

    Terenure 26 V 21 Blackrock
    Marys 31 V 10 Pres Cork


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    #2227
    BlueAndWh1te
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    So was the Hawkshaw becoming a full academy player true?


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    #2228
    Thermoman12
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    BlueAndWh1te wrote: »
    So was the Hawkshaw becoming a full academy player true?

    Yes, him and Dan Sheehan


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    #2229
    Thermoman12
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    BlueAndWh1te wrote: »
    So was the Hawkshaw becoming a full academy player true?

    Yes, him and Dan Sheehan


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    #2230
    BlueAndWh1te
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    Is there a source for that?


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    #2231
    Thermoman12
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    BlueAndWh1te wrote: »
    Is there a source for that?

    No unfortunately not, don’t know why Leinster don’t publicly announce it when they bring new players into the academy, maybe they’ll upload on their website later on in the season


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    #2232
    sellit90000
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    Leinster players in Ireland camp over Halloween - excluding 19's and 7's

    Jack Boyle(St Michaels/Prop)
    Sam Illo(Wesley/Prop)
    Levi Vaughan(Terenure/Prop-Hooker)
    Lee Barron(St Michaels/Hooker)
    Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Lock)
    Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels/Lock)
    Will Hickey(St Michaels/Backrow)
    Aaron Coleman(Bevledere/Backrow)
    Jack Guinane(St. Michaels/Backrow)
    Jack Barry(Gonzaga/Backrow)
    Mark Boyle(Gorey/Backrow)
    Ben Murphy(Pres Bray/Scrumhalf)
    Simon O'Kelly(St Michaels/Centre)
    Chris Cosgrave(St Michaels/Centre)
    Karl Martin(Boyne/Centre)
    Josh Pyper(Pres Bray/Wing)
    Josh O'Connor(Wexford/Wing)
    Jamie Osborne(Naas/Fullback)


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    #2233
    Thermoman12
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    sellit90000 wrote: »
    Leinster players in Ireland camp over Halloween - excluding 19's and 7's

    Jack Boyle(St Michaels/Prop)
    Sam Illo(Wesley/Prop)
    Levi Vaughan(Terenure/Prop-Hooker)
    Lee Barron(St Michaels/Hooker)
    Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Lock)
    Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels/Lock)
    Will Hickey(St Michaels/Backrow)
    Aaron Coleman(Bevledere/Backrow)
    Jack Guinane(St. Michaels/Backrow)
    Jack Barry(Gonzaga/Backrow)
    Mark Boyle(Gorey/Backrow)
    Ben Murphy(Pres Bray/Scrumhalf)
    Simon O'Kelly(St Michaels/Centre)
    Chris Cosgrave(St Michaels/Centre)
    Karl Martin(Boyne/Centre)
    Josh Pyper(Pres Bray/Wing)
    Josh O'Connor(Wexford/Wing)
    Jamie Osborne(Naas/Fullback)
    The amount of Michales players there is ridiculous


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    #2234
    stephen_n
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    sellit90000 wrote: »
    Leinster players in Ireland camp over Halloween - excluding 19's and 7's

    Jack Boyle(St Michaels/Prop)
    Sam Illo(Wesley/Prop)
    Levi Vaughan(Terenure/Prop-Hooker)
    Lee Barron(St Michaels/Hooker)
    Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Lock)
    Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels/Lock)
    Will Hickey(St Michaels/Backrow)
    Aaron Coleman(Bevledere/Backrow)
    Jack Guinane(St. Michaels/Backrow)
    Jack Barry(Gonzaga/Backrow)
    Mark Boyle(Gorey/Backrow)
    Ben Murphy(Pres Bray/Scrumhalf)
    Simon O'Kelly(St Michaels/Centre)
    Chris Cosgrave(St Michaels/Centre)
    Karl Martin(Boyne/Centre)
    Josh Pyper(Pres Bray/Wing)
    Josh O'Connor(Wexford/Wing)
    Jamie Osborne(Naas/Fullback)

    2 Pres players, first time in a long time for that. Is that Richie Murphy’s son at 9?


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    BlueAndWh1te
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    I'm more surprised at the lack of Blackrock players and 2 whole Pres Bray lads.


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    #2236
    sellit90000
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    stephen_n wrote: »
    2 Pres players, first time in a long time for that. Is that Richie Murphy’s son at 9?

    yeah, 2nd year involved with ireland schools.


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    #2237
    sellit90000
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    BlueAndWh1te wrote: »
    I'm more surprised at the lack of Blackrock players and 2 whole Pres Bray lads.

    Rock's top talent in 6th year are all u19 and their 5th years aren't very strong at the moment.


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    #2238
    Granny15
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    sellit90000 wrote: »
    Leinster players in Ireland camp over Halloween - excluding 19's and 7's

    Jack Boyle(St Michaels/Prop)
    Sam Illo(Wesley/Prop)
    Levi Vaughan(Terenure/Prop-Hooker)
    Lee Barron(St Michaels/Hooker)
    Alex Soroka(Belvedere/Lock)
    Jonathan Fish(St. Michaels/Lock)
    Will Hickey(St Michaels/Backrow)
    Aaron Coleman(Bevledere/Backrow)
    Jack Guinane(St. Michaels/Backrow)
    Jack Barry(Gonzaga/Backrow)
    Mark Boyle(Gorey/Backrow)
    Ben Murphy(Pres Bray/Scrumhalf)
    Simon O'Kelly(St Michaels/Centre)
    Chris Cosgrave(St Michaels/Centre)
    Karl Martin(Boyne/Centre)
    Josh Pyper(Pres Bray/Wing)
    Josh O'Connor(Wexford/Wing)
    Jamie Osborne(Naas/Fullback)

    No sign of 2 Michael's wingers Smith and O Brien from last season? Or have they finished school?


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    #2239
    sellit90000
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    Granny15 wrote: »
    No sign of 2 Michael's wingers Smith and O Brien from last season? Or have they finished school?

    they are under-19.


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    #2240
    The Lost Sheep
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    IRFU have arranged games for each of the provinces development teams against one of the new US Major League Rugby teams, New England Free Jacks. Each of the provinces will visit the US in March/April
    Connacht will play the Free Jacks on March 16th and then Connacht play Ulster on March 20th and Ulster then play Free Jacks March 24th
    Munster play Free Jacks April 6th and Leinster on April 10th before Leinster play Free Jacks on April 14th


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    #2241
    D14Rugby
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    IRFU have arranged games for each of the provinces development teams against one of the new US Major League Rugby teams, New England Free Jacks. Each of the provinces will visit the US in March/April
    Connacht will play the Free Jacks on March 16th and then Connacht play Ulster on March 20th and Ulster then play Free Jacks March 24th
    Munster play Free Jacks April 6th and Leinster on April 10th before Leinster play Free Jacks on April 14th

    Going to be messy with players missing AIL games


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    #2242
    The Lost Sheep
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Going to be messy with players missing AIL games
    Depends what type players go. It's final 2 rounds of AIL when Munster and Leinster are playing so some contracted players mightnt be eligible for AIL at that stage so could be involved while its the 3rd/4th last rounds when Connacht and Ulster are gone


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    #2243
    D14Rugby
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Depends what type players go. It's final 2 rounds of AIL when Munster and Leinster are playing so some contracted players mightnt be eligible for AIL at that stage so could be involved while its the 3rd/4th last rounds when Connacht and Ulster are gone

    It's the last two regular season games so nobody will be ineligible


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    The Lost Sheep
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    It's the last two regular season games so nobody will be ineligible
    Competition regs state:
    "To be eligible for a Club’s final four matches in the regular season of the League competition those selected Contracted Players shall have started and played a minimum of the first half of three All Ireland League matches in the preceding weeks."
    There would certainly be quite a few ineligible....


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    #2245
    D14Rugby
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Competition regs state:
    "To be eligible for a Club’s final four matches in the regular season of the League competition those selected Contracted Players shall have started and played a minimum of the first half of three All Ireland League matches in the preceding weeks."
    There would certainly be quite a few ineligible....

    I was confused but still 3 half games and exceptions if you're injured, year nobody picked for A teams is going to be ineligible but I can tell you've made up your mind and won't be changing it as per usual so I'm going to leave it


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    #2246
    The Lost Sheep
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    I was confused but still 3 half games and exceptions if you're injured, year nobody picked for A teams is going to be ineligible but I can tell you've made up your mind and won't be changing it as per usual so I'm going to leave it
    :pac::pac::pac:.......:rolleyes:


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    #2247
    sellit90000
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    Sam Dardis starting consistently for Terenure as a u19 just out of school, wonder will Leinster take another look at him next year.


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    Stainalert
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Going to be messy with players missing AIL games

    Yea total lack of respect for clubs - so many other periods in the season where they could have played these games and would not have clashed with AIL.
    The games against the other Irish provinces will have some meaning but the New England games will be nowhere near the intensity they need to be if A teams are anywhere near full strength. I really hope the IRFU are being paid well for this Spring Break because they are very quickly eroding any goodwill they have with clubs.


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    #2249
    sellit90000
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    Liam Turner is an interesting prospect, anyone think he will make the leinster academy?

    Or will concerns about his lack of height and top end athleticism mean he will get passed over? Needs to nail down a starting position for Ireland u20.

    combined with there being a wing in the academy of the same age grade and several good prospects on the wing in the age grade below him.


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    Locke_Lamora
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    sellit90000 wrote: »
    Liam Turner is an interesting prospect, anyone think he will make the leinster academy?

    Or will concerns about his lack of height and top end athleticism mean he will get passed over? Needs to nail down a starting position for Ireland u20.

    combined with there being a wing in the academy of the same age grade and several good prospects on the wing in the age grade below him.

    Who are the wingers in the same grade/below him? Keenan is hardly much of an athlete but he got taken in. Turner plays 13 as well which could certainly come in handy - but French and Moore probably have that position wrapped up for the u20’s.


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    sellit90000
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    Locke_Lamora wrote: »
    Who are the wingers in the same grade/below him? Keenan is hardly much of an athlete but he got taken in. Turner plays 13 as well which could certainly come in handy - but French and Moore probably have that position wrapped up for the u20’s.

    Keenan is a very good athlete, hence the 7's rugby, also he is much taller than Turner.

    Same age grade from Leinster - Aaron O'Sullivan.

    From elsewhere - Angus Kernohen, Conor Phillips, Jonathan Wren, Conor Hayes, Ikem Uguweru, Hugh Lane.

    Age grade below him from Leinster - Tom Maher, Andrew Smith, Max O'Reilly, Sam Dardis.

    Turner isn't a 13 at pro level IMO.

    it's very rare for someone who is not 1st choice at Ireland u20 level to make the leinster academy, bar at problem positions - hooker, scrumhalf.

    As I said it will be interesting to see how he gets on, if he impresses for the 20's and starts, I'd expect him to really push for an academy place.. if he struggles to hold down Ireland u20 starting position, he will struggle.


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