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Autumn Internationals Team Announcement/Talk

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  • 23-10-2018 7:25am
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    stl.ire
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    Ireland play Italy on Nov 3rd, Argentina Nov 10th, New Zealand Nov 17th and USA Nov 24th.
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Team announcement expected on Tuesday or Wednesday.[/font]

    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]With just under a year until the World Cup this is realistically the last chance for any bolters (bar a Kleyn-esque deadline residency qualification!) and with two of the games likely to be without a number of our first liners (USA and Italy as Italy will be without their French and English based players) there will certainly be opportunities.[/font]

    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Last year Ireland selected 38 players for a 3 game autumn series but Joe sent out an entire B team against Fiji so we can probably expect something similar. Are there any bolters? What do we do about the likely absence of Murray?[/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif] [/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]For interest in how the team has changed here was the 38 selected last year –[/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]21 FORWARDS:[/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rory Best[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jack Conan[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Ultan Dillane (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Tadhg Furlong[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Cian Healy[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Iain Henderson[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rob Herring (injured)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Dave Kilcoyne (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Dan Leavy[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jack McGrath[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Sean O'Brien[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Tommy O'Donnell (sadly injured...again) [/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Peter O'Mahony[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Andrew Porter [/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rhys Ruddock[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]James Ryan[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]John Ryan[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]CJ Stander[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Devin Toner[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]James Tracy [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif](hasn't been capped since)[/font][/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Kieron Treadwell (hasn't been capped since)[/font][/font]

    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Have since been selected in Ireland squads:[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Finlay Bealham, [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Tadhg Berine, [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Sean Cronin, [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Quin Roux, Jordi Murphy, Niall Scannell, Josh Van Der Flier[/font]

    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]17 BACKS:[/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Bundee Aki (1st capped last Nov)[/font][/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Adam Byrne (1st capped last Nov, hasn't been capped since)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Joey Carbery[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Andrew Conway [/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Keith Earls (injured?)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Chris Farrell (injured)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Robbie Henshaw[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Dave Kearney (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rob Kearney[/font][/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Ian Keatley (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Kieran Marmion (injured?)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Stuart McCloskey (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Luke McGrath[/font][/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Conor Murray (injured?)[/font][/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jonathan Sexton[/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jacob Stockdale[/font]
    [font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Darren Sweetnam (1st cap last Nov)[/font][/font]

    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Have since been selected in Irish squads:[/font]
    [font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Ross Byrne, John Cooney, Jordan Larmour, Fergus McFadden, Garry Ringrose, Craig Gilroy (was injury call up to Nov squad last year)[/font][/font]

    [font=Calibri, sans-serif]Whoever gets selected lets just be thankful there will be no ZEBO OUT bombshells like last year ... Or will there????[/font]


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    #2
    Squidgy Black
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    In terms of Murray's injury, Marmion is due back this week, so it'll likely be him, McGrath and Cooney named, with 2nd choice starting vs Italy and 3rd starting vs USA.


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    sydthebeat
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    What do you mean since capped?
    Do you mean has played since that announcement?


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    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    What do you mean since capped?
    Do you mean has played since that announcement?

    6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.


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    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    What do you mean since capped?
    Do you mean has played since that announcement?
    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

    I think he means players who didn't play in November but have played since.

    I initially read that as these are the players whose first caps have come since, although the list is obviously wrong.

    McFadden has loads of caps and Ross Byrne has never been capped.


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    stl.ire
    Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭stl.ire


    troyzer wrote: »
    sydthebeat wrote: »
    What do you mean since capped?
    Do you mean has played since that announcement?
    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

    I think he means players who didn't play in November but have played since.

    I initially read that as these are the players whose first caps have come since, although the list is obviously wrong.

    McFadden has loads of caps and Ross Byrne has never been capped.

    Sorry for not being clearer. I will edit the post. “Since capped” should read “Have since been selected in squads”.


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    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    stl.ire wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    sydthebeat wrote: »
    What do you mean since capped?
    Do you mean has played since that announcement?
    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

    I think he means players who didn't play in November but have played since.

    I initially read that as these are the players whose first caps have come since, although the list is obviously wrong.

    McFadden has loads of caps and Ross Byrne has never been capped.

    Sorry for not being clearer. I will edit the post. “Since capped” should read “Have since been selected in squads”.

    That makes more sense, cheers.


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    Burkie1203
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    JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up


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    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up


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    Spideog Rua
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up

    Not his call to make. How close is Murray to a return?


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    Podge_irl
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    Spideog Rua wrote: »
    Not his call to make. How close is Murray to a return?

    He didn't say it was his call, he says he doesn't expect it. If it was his call he'd know.


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    #12
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Might not be the worst thing in the world to blood a few of the backups at the highest level.

    Our biggest concern at the moment is the vast drop off in quality from Murray. I would rather have Marmion play the All Blacks now for the first time and learn from the experience than in 12 months.

    If we lose to the All Blacks but come out with a proper, battle hardened test 21 that inspires confidence I'd be very happy.


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    Eod100
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up

    Where did he say this? Hadn't spotted it. Hopefully Earls will be in the mix.


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    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Where did he say this? Hadn't spotted it. Hopefully Earls will be in the mix.

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimesSport/status/1054603589199454208?s=19


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    Losty Dublin
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    Warren Gatland has flown home to New Zealand after the death of his father. He's reportedly due back for Wales' first AI test at home to Scotland.


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    Digifriendly
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    Any word yet on TV coverage of Ireland vs Italy? I can't find any UK or Irish broadcaster listed on any websites.


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    Former Former
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    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Any word yet on TV coverage of Ireland vs Italy? I can't find any UK or Irish broadcaster listed on any websites.

    Eir Sport.

    Doing their usual bang up job of updating the schedule.


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    #18
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Digifriendly wrote: »
    Any word yet on TV coverage of Ireland vs Italy? I can't find any UK or Irish broadcaster listed on any websites.

    It's on Channel 4 and eir Sport 2.


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    Former Former
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    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/addison-and-haley-expected-to-be-named-in-ireland-squad-1.3673406

    Gerry T reckons Haley and Addison will be called up.

    Not sure Haley deserves it tbh.

    Also seems we'll send a weaker team to Chicago. What a pointless money-grabbing exercise.


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    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Former Former wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/addison-and-haley-expected-to-be-named-in-ireland-squad-1.3673406

    Gerry T reckons Haley and Addison will be called up.

    Not sure Haley deserves it tbh.

    Also seems we'll send a weaker team to Chicago. What a pointless money-grabbing exercise.

    Money grabbing isn't pointless in a sport which has a revenue issue.


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    Buer
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    Addison is a no brainer. Haley is obviously someone that has been looked at in a bigger picture and was in consideration for a call up before he arrived. I haven't been overly taken with his performances to date although he did look more comfortable and threatening in the second half against Gloucester than he has done previously. He looks a little bit average generally though and I'd far rather guys like Addison, Conway and Kearney at full back.

    Billy Burns will possibly be a little disappointed with no call up but, whilst he has looked decent at times, there's only so much game time available in a specialist position and his starting point is well behind the other options in terms of the Irish set up.


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    Squidgy Black
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    Haley feels like a cap for the sake of being capped at this moment.


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    Paul Smeenus
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    Joe is very happy to dole out caps to dually eligible players to tie them to Ireland. Reidy and Treadwell, for example.


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    Burkie1203
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Haley feels like a cap for the sake of being capped at this moment.

    Think it's a case of having a few spare guys tuned into the set up. No bad thing.

    We know from previous years Joe likes to have guys who can rock up and train with minimal investment in getting them up to speed


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    Mr Tickle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Think it's a case of having a few spare guys tuned into the set up. No bad thing.

    We know from previous years Joe likes to have guys who can rock up and train with minimal investment in getting them up to speed

    He does, though i think we already have enough guys who can slot in at full back who know the set-up. Even TOH (who's been a bit off the boil so far this year) deserves a place over Haley.

    Addison is winning me over though. He's more of a quick and agile type centre rather than the battering ram. More Ringrose than Henshaw. I don't see him overtaking any of those two, Farrell or Aki but if there was an injury he'd be a nice one to drop in.


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    arsebiscuits1
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    Paul Smeenus wrote: »
    Joe is very happy to dole out caps to dually eligible players to tie them to Ireland. Reidy and Treadwell, for example.

    And Ah You...


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    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,517 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Former Former wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/addison-and-haley-expected-to-be-named-in-ireland-squad-1.3673406

    Gerry T reckons Haley and Addison will be called up.

    Not sure Haley deserves it tbh.

    Also seems we'll send a weaker team to Chicago. What a pointless money-grabbing exercise.

    How is it pointless? I think this is a great chance to get a good look at some fringe players.

    Probably a bit more convenient if it was at home but playing away does no harm to squad morale. Especially for fringe players who may not have gotten a look in on tours in the past


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    Former Former
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    How is it pointless? I think this is a great chance to get a good look at some fringe players.

    Probably a bit more convenient if it was at home but playing away does no harm to squad morale. Especially for fringe players who may not have gotten a look in on tours in the past

    Get a look at our fringe players doing what though?

    If we send our seconds, and Italy do likewise, no one is going to learn anything. The Italy seconds are going to be sub-Pro 14 level, we already know that our seconds can perform against players of that calibre. We need to see them tested by a good side.

    I hope both Ireland and Italy go full strength. Looking at the abysmal ticket sales, I'll bet the organisers are hoping the same...


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    thomond2006
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    Putting three games in one day is a bit dumb.
    2016 was perfect: One game on Friday and one on Saturday.

    The ticket sales are awful alright: https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/0400548D9D6542BF

    It goes to show what a massive draw the All Blacks are.


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    swiwi_
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    Must say I'm looking forward to the clash between two of the world's most closely matched sides. A highly anticipated match, with bragging rights on the line, and the chance to land a psychological blow before Japan 2019.

    Fancy Italy to just nick it, but Georgia should give it a good whirl.


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    Eod100
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    troyzer wrote: »
    It's on Channel 4 and eir Sport 2.

    Think it's only eir but c4 showing Ireland's home games alright, along with rte.


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