Autumn Internationals Team Announcement/Talk

stl.ire · 23-10-2018 7:25am #1

Ireland play Italy on Nov 3^rd, Argentina Nov 10^th, New Zealand Nov 17^th and USA Nov 24^th.
[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Team announcement expected on Tuesday or Wednesday.[/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]With just under a year until the World Cup this is realistically the last chance for any bolters (bar a Kleyn-esque deadline residency qualification!) and with two of the games likely to be without a number of our first liners (USA and Italy as Italy will be without their French and English based players) there will certainly be opportunities.[/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Last year Ireland selected 38 players for a 3 game autumn series but Joe sent out an entire B team against Fiji so we can probably expect something similar. Are there any bolters? What do we do about the likely absence of Murray?[/font]
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[font=Calibri, sans-serif]For interest in how the team has changed here was the 38 selected last year –[/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif]21 FORWARDS:[/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rory Best[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jack Conan[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Ultan Dillane (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Tadhg Furlong[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Cian Healy[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Iain Henderson[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rob Herring (injured)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Dave Kilcoyne (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Dan Leavy[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jack McGrath[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Sean O'Brien[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Tommy O'Donnell (sadly injured...again) [/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Peter O'Mahony[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Andrew Porter [/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rhys Ruddock[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]James Ryan[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]John Ryan[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]CJ Stander[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Devin Toner[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]James Tracy [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif](hasn't been capped since)[/font][/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Kieron Treadwell (hasn't been capped since)[/font][/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Have since been selected in Ireland squads:[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Finlay Bealham, [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Tadhg Berine, [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Sean Cronin, [/font][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Quin Roux, Jordi Murphy, Niall Scannell, Josh Van Der Flier[/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]17 BACKS:[/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Bundee Aki (1st capped last Nov)[/font][/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Adam Byrne (1st capped last Nov, hasn't been capped since)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Joey Carbery[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Andrew Conway [/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Keith Earls (injured?)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Chris Farrell (injured)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Robbie Henshaw[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Dave Kearney (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Rob Kearney[/font][/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Ian Keatley (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Kieran Marmion (injured?)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Stuart McCloskey (hasn't been capped since)[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Luke McGrath[/font][/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Conor Murray (injured?)[/font][/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jonathan Sexton[/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Jacob Stockdale[/font]
[font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Darren Sweetnam (1st cap last Nov)[/font][/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Have since been selected in Irish squads:[/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif][font=lucida_grande, Calibri, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif]Ross Byrne, John Cooney, Jordan Larmour, Fergus McFadden, Garry Ringrose, Craig Gilroy (was injury call up to Nov squad last year)[/font][/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Whoever gets selected lets just be thankful there will be no ZEBO OUT bombshells like last year ... Or will there????[/font]

Squidgy Black · 23-10-2018 7:31am

In terms of Murray's injury, Marmion is due back this week, so it'll likely be him, McGrath and Cooney named, with 2nd choice starting vs Italy and 3rd starting vs USA.

sydthebeat · 23-10-2018 7:33am

What do you mean since capped?
Do you mean has played since that announcement?

Squidgy Black · 23-10-2018 7:36am

sydthebeat wrote: »

What do you mean since capped?
Do you mean has played since that announcement?

6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

troyzer · 23-10-2018 7:38am

sydthebeat wrote: »

What do you mean since capped?
Do you mean has played since that announcement?

Squidgy Black wrote: »

6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

I think he means players who didn't play in November but have played since.

I initially read that as these are the players whose first caps have come since, although the list is obviously wrong.

McFadden has loads of caps and Ross Byrne has never been capped.

stl.ire · 23-10-2018 7:56am

troyzer wrote: »

sydthebeat wrote: »

What do you mean since capped?
Do you mean has played since that announcement?

Squidgy Black wrote: »

6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

I think he means players who didn't play in November but have played since.

I initially read that as these are the players whose first caps have come since, although the list is obviously wrong.

McFadden has loads of caps and Ross Byrne has never been capped.

Sorry for not being clearer. I will edit the post. “Since capped” should read “Have since been selected in squads”.

troyzer · 23-10-2018 7:57am

stl.ire wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

sydthebeat wrote: »

What do you mean since capped?
Do you mean has played since that announcement?

Squidgy Black wrote: »

6 Nations and summer tour I'm assuming.

I think he means players who didn't play in November but have played since.

I initially read that as these are the players whose first caps have come since, although the list is obviously wrong.

McFadden has loads of caps and Ross Byrne has never been capped.

Sorry for not being clearer. I will edit the post. “Since capped” should read “Have since been selected in squads”.

That makes more sense, cheers.

Burkie1203 · 23-10-2018 8:23am

JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up

Burkie1203 · 23-10-2018 8:23am

JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up

Spideog Rua · 23-10-2018 8:36am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up

Not his call to make. How close is Murray to a return?

Podge_irl · 23-10-2018 8:38am

Spideog Rua wrote: »

Not his call to make. How close is Murray to a return?

He didn't say it was his call, he says he doesn't expect it. If it was his call he'd know.

troyzer · 23-10-2018 8:40am

Might not be the worst thing in the world to blood a few of the backups at the highest level.

Our biggest concern at the moment is the vast drop off in quality from Murray. I would rather have Marmion play the All Blacks now for the first time and learn from the experience than in 12 months.

If we lose to the All Blacks but come out with a proper, battle hardened test 21 that inspires confidence I'd be very happy.

Eod100 · 23-10-2018 8:52am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

JVG says he doesnt expect Murray to be called up

Where did he say this? Hadn't spotted it. Hopefully Earls will be in the mix.

Burkie1203 · 23-10-2018 8:57am

Eod100 wrote: »

Where did he say this? Hadn't spotted it. Hopefully Earls will be in the mix.

https://twitter.com/IrishTimesSport/status/1054603589199454208?s=19

Losty Dublin · 24-10-2018 1:05am

Warren Gatland has flown home to New Zealand after the death of his father. He's reportedly due back for Wales' first AI test at home to Scotland.

Digifriendly · 24-10-2018 7:35am

Any word yet on TV coverage of Ireland vs Italy? I can't find any UK or Irish broadcaster listed on any websites.

Former Former · 24-10-2018 7:43am

Digifriendly wrote: »

Any word yet on TV coverage of Ireland vs Italy? I can't find any UK or Irish broadcaster listed on any websites.

Eir Sport.

Doing their usual bang up job of updating the schedule.

troyzer · 24-10-2018 7:43am

Digifriendly wrote: »

Any word yet on TV coverage of Ireland vs Italy? I can't find any UK or Irish broadcaster listed on any websites.

It's on Channel 4 and eir Sport 2.

Former Former · 24-10-2018 7:48am

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/addison-and-haley-expected-to-be-named-in-ireland-squad-1.3673406

Gerry T reckons Haley and Addison will be called up.

Not sure Haley deserves it tbh.

Also seems we'll send a weaker team to Chicago. What a pointless money-grabbing exercise.

troyzer · 24-10-2018 7:51am

Former Former wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/addison-and-haley-expected-to-be-named-in-ireland-squad-1.3673406

Gerry T reckons Haley and Addison will be called up.

Not sure Haley deserves it tbh.

Also seems we'll send a weaker team to Chicago. What a pointless money-grabbing exercise.

Money grabbing isn't pointless in a sport which has a revenue issue.

Buer · 24-10-2018 8:59am

Addison is a no brainer. Haley is obviously someone that has been looked at in a bigger picture and was in consideration for a call up before he arrived. I haven't been overly taken with his performances to date although he did look more comfortable and threatening in the second half against Gloucester than he has done previously. He looks a little bit average generally though and I'd far rather guys like Addison, Conway and Kearney at full back.

Billy Burns will possibly be a little disappointed with no call up but, whilst he has looked decent at times, there's only so much game time available in a specialist position and his starting point is well behind the other options in terms of the Irish set up.

Squidgy Black · 24-10-2018 9:07am

Haley feels like a cap for the sake of being capped at this moment.

Paul Smeenus · 24-10-2018 9:09am

Joe is very happy to dole out caps to dually eligible players to tie them to Ireland. Reidy and Treadwell, for example.

Burkie1203 · 24-10-2018 9:37am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Haley feels like a cap for the sake of being capped at this moment.

Think it's a case of having a few spare guys tuned into the set up. No bad thing.

We know from previous years Joe likes to have guys who can rock up and train with minimal investment in getting them up to speed

Mr Tickle · 24-10-2018 10:01am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Think it's a case of having a few spare guys tuned into the set up. No bad thing.

We know from previous years Joe likes to have guys who can rock up and train with minimal investment in getting them up to speed

He does, though i think we already have enough guys who can slot in at full back who know the set-up. Even TOH (who's been a bit off the boil so far this year) deserves a place over Haley.

Addison is winning me over though. He's more of a quick and agile type centre rather than the battering ram. More Ringrose than Henshaw. I don't see him overtaking any of those two, Farrell or Aki but if there was an injury he'd be a nice one to drop in.

arsebiscuits1 · 24-10-2018 12:28pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Joe is very happy to dole out caps to dually eligible players to tie them to Ireland. Reidy and Treadwell, for example.

And Ah You...

arsebiscuits1 · 24-10-2018 12:30pm

Former Former wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/addison-and-haley-expected-to-be-named-in-ireland-squad-1.3673406

Gerry T reckons Haley and Addison will be called up.

Not sure Haley deserves it tbh.

Also seems we'll send a weaker team to Chicago. What a pointless money-grabbing exercise.

How is it pointless? I think this is a great chance to get a good look at some fringe players.

Probably a bit more convenient if it was at home but playing away does no harm to squad morale. Especially for fringe players who may not have gotten a look in on tours in the past

Former Former · 24-10-2018 2:05pm

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

How is it pointless? I think this is a great chance to get a good look at some fringe players.

Probably a bit more convenient if it was at home but playing away does no harm to squad morale. Especially for fringe players who may not have gotten a look in on tours in the past

Get a look at our fringe players doing what though?

If we send our seconds, and Italy do likewise, no one is going to learn anything. The Italy seconds are going to be sub-Pro 14 level, we already know that our seconds can perform against players of that calibre. We need to see them tested by a good side.

I hope both Ireland and Italy go full strength. Looking at the abysmal ticket sales, I'll bet the organisers are hoping the same...

thomond2006 · 24-10-2018 2:11pm

Putting three games in one day is a bit dumb.
2016 was perfect: One game on Friday and one on Saturday.

The ticket sales are awful alright: https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/0400548D9D6542BF

It goes to show what a massive draw the All Blacks are.

swiwi_ · 25-10-2018 7:05pm

Must say I'm looking forward to the clash between two of the world's most closely matched sides. A highly anticipated match, with bragging rights on the line, and the chance to land a psychological blow before Japan 2019.

Fancy Italy to just nick it, but Georgia should give it a good whirl.

Eod100 · 25-10-2018 7:21pm

troyzer wrote: »

It's on Channel 4 and eir Sport 2.

Think it's only eir but c4 showing Ireland's home games alright, along with rte.

30-10-2018 10:03pm

Mike Brown dropped for Springbok Test

typhoony · 01-11-2018 12:37am

I've convinced myself that Fiji will be the team of 2019 and the games they have in November will show if they can become serious contenders, they have some serious talent coming through, the No.10 for the Fiji Drua team was a revelation in the 2018 NRC competition, sublime with ball in hand.

turnikett1 · 01-11-2018 4:49am

Anyone else really hope Scotland lose? I don't know why, but Scottish rugby has always rubbed me the wrong way and I absolutely love when we dominate them in the 6N.

stephen_n · 01-11-2018 9:00am

turnikett1 wrote: »

Anyone else really hope Scotland lose? I don't know why, but Scottish rugby has always rubbed me the wrong way and I absolutely love when we dominate them in the 6N.

But they’re playing Wales!

Burkie1203 · 01-11-2018 9:43am

https://twitter.com/_TheRugbyClub/status/1057561413575733248?s=19

01-11-2018 12:21pm

Might end up catching the last few minutes of Japan v NZ. Not that fussed about Wales v Scotland, just don't see the point of the fixture, will watch the highlights.

England v SA should be a rough auld tumble. England have gone for as big a pack as they can get on the pitch and the hits should be massive. It's the only real proper international of the weekend so will try and get time to watch the full game.

8:00 kick off for the Ireland game and the lack of importance of the fixture should make the match thread quite interesting. Might line up a couple of brews, think a drinking game is in order?

If the commentator references:
Carbery's move to Munster - drink
Tadgh Beirne changing one shade of red for another - drink
Any of the following words: Depth, Experimentation, System, Physicality - Drink
Bundee becoming Ireland eligible - finish your drink
Joe Schmidt arriving to Chicago later in the week - drink
Larmour electric footwork - drink
Less than a year to the world cup - drink
Any reference to 2015 - finish your drink
Yellow card - drink
Red card - finish your drink
GAA skills - finish your drink
Stockdale 6 nations try record - drink
Van derFlier return from injury - drink

Feel free to add more!

PMC83 · 01-11-2018 1:12pm

The Italian Job- Drink all the drinks then go out and get some more

thomond2006 · 01-11-2018 3:01pm

England:
Elliot Daly; Jack Nowell, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs;
Alec Hepburn, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Tom Curry, Mark Wilson.

Replacements: Jamie George, Ben Moon, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Zach Mercer, Danny Care, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi.

The Springbok team to face against England in London (in order of name, surname, province, Test caps, Test points):

15. Damian Willemse (DHL Western Province, 3, 0)
14. Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks, 3, 10 - 2t)
13. Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 50 - 10t)
12. Damian de Allende (DHL Western Province, 33, 20 - 4t)
11. Aphiwe Dyantyi (Xerox Golden Lions, 9, 30 - 6t)
10. Handré Pollard (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 35, 293 - 3t, 55c, 53p, 3d)
9. Ivan van Zyl (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 3, 0)
8. Warren Whiteley (Xerox Golden Lions , 21, 15 - 3t)
7. Duane Vermeulen (Kubota Spears, Japan, 42, 15 - 3t)
6. Siya Kolisi (captain, DHL Western Province, 37, 25 - 5t)
5. Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Western Province, 42, 20 - 4t)
4. Eben Etzebeth (DHL Western Province, 73, 15 - 3t)
3. Frans Malherbe (DHL Western Province, 25, 0)
2. Malcolm Marx (Xerox Golden Lions, 20, 20 - 4t)
1. Steven Kitshoff (DHL Western Province, 33, 5 - 1t)

Replacements:
16. Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Western Province, 10 - 2t)
17. Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks, 5, 0)
18. Wilco Louw (DHL Western Province, 11, 0)
19. RG Snyman (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 8, 0)
20. Lood de Jager (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 20 - 4t)
21. Embrose Papier (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 4, 0)
22. Elton Jantjies (Xerox Golden Lions, 29, 223 - 2t, 42c, 43p)
23. André Esterhuizen (Cell C Sharks, 5, 0)

sydthebeat · 01-11-2018 3:04pm

7 caps between the two Bok scrum halfs.

160 between the english 2

troyzer · 01-11-2018 3:05pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

England:
Elliot Daly; Jack Nowell, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs;
Alec Hepburn, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Tom Curry, Mark Wilson.

Replacements: Jamie George, Ben Moon, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Zach Mercer, Danny Care, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi.

The Springbok team to face against England in London (in order of name, surname, province, Test caps, Test points):

15. Damian Willemse (DHL Western Province, 3, 0)
14. Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks, 3, 10 - 2t)
13. Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 50 - 10t)
12. Damian de Allende (DHL Western Province, 33, 20 - 4t)
11. Aphiwe Dyantyi (Xerox Golden Lions, 9, 30 - 6t)
10. Handré Pollard (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 35, 293 - 3t, 55c, 53p, 3d)
9. Ivan van Zyl (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 3, 0)
8. Warren Whiteley (Xerox Golden Lions , 21, 15 - 3t)
7. Duane Vermeulen (Kubota Spears, Japan, 42, 15 - 3t)
6. Siya Kolisi (captain, DHL Western Province, 37, 25 - 5t)
5. Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Western Province, 42, 20 - 4t)
4. Eben Etzebeth (DHL Western Province, 73, 15 - 3t)
3. Frans Malherbe (DHL Western Province, 25, 0)
2. Malcolm Marx (Xerox Golden Lions, 20, 20 - 4t)
1. Steven Kitshoff (DHL Western Province, 33, 5 - 1t)

Replacements:
16. Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Western Province, 10 - 2t)
17. Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks, 5, 0)
18. Wilco Louw (DHL Western Province, 11, 0)
19. RG Snyman (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 8, 0)
20. Lood de Jager (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 20 - 4t)
21. Embrose Papier (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 4, 0)
22. Elton Jantjies (Xerox Golden Lions, 29, 223 - 2t, 42c, 43p)
23. André Esterhuizen (Cell C Sharks, 5, 0)

thomond2006 · 01-11-2018 3:19pm

troyzer wrote: »

Those sponsorship names are so obnoxious.

Can you imagine if it was the Nissan© Leinster Lions sponsored by Axa©.

They need the cash.

01-11-2018 3:22pm

How long until we see:

4. Gillette Eben Etzebeth (DHL Western Province, 73, 15 - 3t)

troyzer · 01-11-2018 3:24pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

They need the cash.

I suppose, still annoying though.

Would they be the poorest tier 1 nation? As in GDP per capita?

OldRio · 01-11-2018 3:30pm

Pure coincidence that South Africa were the preferred bidder for the World Cup of course.

01-11-2018 4:43pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

England:
Elliot Daly; Jack Nowell, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Jonny May; Owen Farrell (co-captain), Ben Youngs;
Alec Hepburn, Dylan Hartley (co-captain), Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, George Kruis, Brad Shields, Tom Curry, Mark Wilson.

Replacements: Jamie George, Ben Moon, Harry Williams, Charlie Ewels, Zach Mercer, Danny Care, George Ford, Manu Tuilagi.

The Springbok team to face against England in London (in order of name, surname, province, Test caps, Test points):

15. Damian Willemse (DHL Western Province, 3, 0)
14. Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks, 3, 10 - 2t)
13. Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 50 - 10t)
12. Damian de Allende (DHL Western Province, 33, 20 - 4t)
11. Aphiwe Dyantyi (Xerox Golden Lions, 9, 30 - 6t)
10. Handré Pollard (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 35, 293 - 3t, 55c, 53p, 3d)
9. Ivan van Zyl (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 3, 0)
8. Warren Whiteley (Xerox Golden Lions , 21, 15 - 3t)
7. Duane Vermeulen (Kubota Spears, Japan, 42, 15 - 3t)
6. Siya Kolisi (captain, DHL Western Province, 37, 25 - 5t)
5. Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Western Province, 42, 20 - 4t)
4. Eben Etzebeth (DHL Western Province, 73, 15 - 3t)
3. Frans Malherbe (DHL Western Province, 25, 0)
2. Malcolm Marx (Xerox Golden Lions, 20, 20 - 4t)
1. Steven Kitshoff (DHL Western Province, 33, 5 - 1t)

Replacements:
16. Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Western Province, 10 - 2t)
17. Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks, 5, 0)
18. Wilco Louw (DHL Western Province, 11, 0)
19. RG Snyman (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 8, 0)
20. Lood de Jager (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 36, 20 - 4t)
21. Embrose Papier (Vodacom Blue Bulls, 4, 0)
22. Elton Jantjies (Xerox Golden Lions, 29, 223 - 2t, 42c, 43p)
23. André Esterhuizen (Cell C Sharks, 5, 0)

Fun fact: Dyantyi means "do not dance" in zulu

Bazzo · 02-11-2018 1:31pm

Ashton replaces Tuilagi On the England bench, Tuilagi injured apparently.

sydthebeat · 02-11-2018 2:07pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Ashton replaces Tuilagi On the England bench, Tuilagi injured apparently.

splinter up his hole?

02-11-2018 2:09pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Tuilagi injured apparently.

Should have added this to the drinking game list!

Burkie1203 · 02-11-2018 2:32pm

what an absolute legend.

https://twitter.com/BBCTheOneShow/status/1058086272453959680?s=19

sydthebeat · 02-11-2018 3:05pm

wow..... i cant imagine being in that situation

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