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Formula 1 2018: General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    All female racing series has been announced for next year, F3 spec single seaters with 1.8 litre engines

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11522506/women-only-w-series-to-launch-in-2019-aims-to-find-next-f1-star


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    Probably late to the party but saw those quotes of Hamilton regarding Seb and how he feels the media and fans need to show him more respect. Thought it was nice to see.

    I've never been a huge fan of either, used to despise Vettel until he became the lesser of two evils in terms of drivers I don't like (funny how both are the most successful ones). But have to give them credit, this year they have both publicly defended eachother many times.

    Yes in a battle they have some back and forth but overall been very surprised and impressed how much respect they've shown eachother. It's funny also when you see what goes on in the fan battles on Facebook and the likes, to be expected I suppose.

    It would be brilliant for us if something happened to put more life in this battle but I don't see it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,161 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Kubica and Russell now the favourites to fill the Williams seats. Kubica is bringing a large amount of sponsorship and Mercedes are confident they can make a package to get Russell the last seat on the 2019 grid!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Kubica and Russell now the favourites to fill the Williams seats. Kubica is bringing a large amount of sponsorship and Mercedes are confident they can make a package to get Russell the last seat on the 2019 grid!

    Joe Saward has been reliable in the past, Sirotkin & Ricciardo deals he got spot on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,043 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Kubica and Russell now the favourites to fill the Williams seats. Kubica is bringing a large amount of sponsorship and Mercedes are confident they can make a package to get Russell the last seat on the 2019 grid!


    That package will probably be a holdall full of cash ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭robinwing


    Mick Schumacher is going quite well in F3 this year. Bet strings will be pulled to get him into F1 before too long. The show needs something like that . It is a showbusiness circus nowadays in reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Kubica apparently offered a test & reserve seat at not Force India.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,252 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Kubica apparently offered a test & reserve seat at not Force India.

    I really don't see Kubica being able to compete over a full season. Even without the injury he's been out too long now for me (Testing =/= Racing). He'd also be the second oldest driver on the grid next season behind Kimi. It would be nice to see but if it was my car, I would't want him in it, not when there are other options that will pay as much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    OSI wrote: »
    Lot of questions as to if strings are being pulled already as he seems to have pulled a spectacular change in performance out of thin air.

    Not a chance, it's a spec series. Dan Ticktum started that off because he's been comprehensively outperformed over the last few rounds and had no answer for it. Once Mick got his first win you could see the difference in his driving, he had an extra air of confidence, like he was missing that bit of self belief before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,252 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    skipper_G wrote: »
    Not a chance, it's a spec series. Dan Ticktum started that off because he's been comprehensively outperformed over the last few rounds and had no answer for it. Once Mick got his first win you could see the difference in his driving, he had an extra air of confidence, like he was missing that bit of self belief before.

    Dan Ticktum is a horrible human, himself and Fenati should just feck off out of motorsport


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,161 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Isnt Ticktum the lad who was hoping to get the Toro Rosso seat despite not having a superlicense OR the means of acquiring one so fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Isnt Ticktum the lad who was hoping to get the Toro Rosso seat despite not having a superlicense OR the means of acquiring one so fast.

    Yep, he's also the one who moaned about how the licensing system was unfair because he didn't even have the points to do the F1 young driver test.

    Not forgetting that he wasn't able to accumulate points while banned for a year, punishment for racing through the field under safety car to deliberately crash into an opponent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,252 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Isnt Ticktum the lad who was hoping to get the Toro Rosso seat despite not having a superlicense OR the means of acquiring one so fast.

    After doing what he did on track he should never get a licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,609 ✭✭✭Harika


    After doing what he did on track he should never get a licence.

    Without that incident he would have the super license.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,252 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    Harika wrote: »
    Without that incident he would have the super license.

    I just really dislike that type of behaviour. I saw something similar happen in an amateur race and felt it was disgusting then too.

    To overtake I think 10 cars under safety car and then ram somebody off the track is completely premeditated and disgusting. Absolutely no room for that in motorsport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    skipper_G wrote: »
    All female racing series has been announced for next year, F3 spec single seaters with 1.8 litre engines

    https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/11522506/women-only-w-series-to-launch-in-2019-aims-to-find-next-f1-star

    Very interesting, I'd love for that to be successful - yet I have a feeling it'll go the way of the A1 GP and similar stuff, due to the sheer lack of numbers.

    While it is true that women drivers face harder time convincing sponsors to back them up (just like drivers from certain countries like Italy or Japan), it's also true that the numbers of young girls taking up motorsports is extremely low to begin with - the reasons behind this being complex and ranging from sheer disinterest to perception of the sport being a male discipline. Physical qualities do not enter the picture - there are very capable and successful women piloting fighter jets in many airforces, if they can do that they can certainly race a formula car.

    It's insane that in 100 years of motorsport, the only female racing driver to be truly successful at a global level still is Michelle Mouton, back in the early 1980s. And she drove the Group B monsters...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Harika wrote: »
    Without that incident he would have the super license.

    While he'd certainly have a better chance to, it wouldn't be a given. There's no certainty which championship he'd have ended up in the following year and what his relative performance would have been.

    LollipopJimmy was spot on, no place for that in motorsport. He chose to do it and it's only correct he suffers the consequences. Including impacting his ability to acquire super license points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    This too shall pass.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    flazio wrote: »

    Who was babysitting young Wolff? Hamilton? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,451 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    H3llR4iser wrote:
    While it is true that women drivers face harder time convincing sponsors to back them up (just like drivers from certain countries like Italy or Japan), it's also true that the numbers of young girls taking up motorsports is extremely low to begin with - the reasons behind this being complex and ranging from sheer disinterest to perception of the sport being a male discipline. Physical qualities do not enter the picture - there are very capable and successful women piloting fighter jets in many airforces, if they can do that they can certainly race a formula car.


    Female racing drivers would be more likely to panic in risky situations and cause accidents (see Danika Patrick). This is the case with most female drivers in general.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,036 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Who was babysitting young Wolff? Hamilton? :pac:

    Doesn't need a babysitter already hunting alone.
    Raised by Wolffs :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    elperello wrote: »
    Doesn't need a babysitter already hunting alone.
    Raised by Wolffs :)

    Very good :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Russell joins Williams for 2019


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Russell joins Williams for 2019

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeRussell63/status/1050679444422180864

    Great signing for Williams, much better than a pay driver


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,161 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    skipper_G wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/GeorgeRussell63/status/1050679444422180864

    Great signing for Williams, much better than a pay driver

    Tbh I'd say whatever deal was made between Mercedes and Williams would be quite a financial benefit to Williams anyway. Both their seats were available to buy and Merc probably just had a better position to get one of the seats given they supply the team their engine.


    Leclerc, Gasly, Norris, Giovinazzi, Russell mean a lot of good youngsters on the grid next year. And Stroll is young aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,123 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    Sorry but this ain't true. If you female and interested in motorsport at the lower levels you get sponsorship thrown at you. I have seen it first hand myself. They also get a load more coverage media wise as well.

    Makes sense. Based on results alone, how many of us would have heard of Danica Patrick if she was a man?

    The problem is clearly that if only a tiny percentage of people entering motorsport are female, and only a tiny percentage of competitors make it to top formula such as F1, then obviously there's very little chance of women making it that far. The solution is to get more young girls interested in it. How though, I've no idea!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Who's favourite then for the second seat? Stick with Sirotkin or give it to Kubica?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,161 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Who's favourite then for the second seat? Stick with Sirotkin or give it to Kubica?

    Straight shootout between them who brings the most money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    So do Mercedes rate Russell higher than Ocon? Or do you think Williams was given two options and went with a British driver?

    I suppose Ocon or Kubica could still have a chance at Toro Ross seat.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Straight shootout between them who brings the most money.

    Kubica brings €10m plus Williams have had nearly a year to evaluate him, no idea what Sirotkin brings.


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